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This could be a cumulative effect from having Emperor’s voice and the other voice module in one of my customs. I have a powerful voice now. Just talked to a female friend and it was so much fun to modulate the voice while talking to her.

My best guess is the ZP is working on its script. And my subconscious chose the voice to be activated first because I like working with it.

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Three questions about Chosen.

  1. Chosen seems to focus intensely on giving the appearance and aura of alpha leadership. This is amazing, but also concerning.

It focuses heavily on inspiring others. It’s great for team-building and inspiring your team. It attracts talented people and brings out people’s innate talents.

But how does Chosen make internal changes to the leader himself that will make him a more EFFECTIVE leader and not just a more inspiring leader?

As a leader, leading a small team, it’s not just enough for me to inspire, guide, encourage my team. I have to be working the hardest for them, innovating for them, making a culture of winning for them to feel amazing to be a part of. I have to lead from the front lines.

I’m sure Chosen’s scripting has taken this into consideration, but how does it make the leader a better action-taker and a more effective builder? And how much does it focus on that?

I notice it talks more about values of leaders like temperance etc., but could you elaborate on that, and elaborate and how Chosen makes you an effective leader in ways other than just inspiring others? Are there modules like Way Of ROI in there?

  1. If you’re already in a relationship, will it have any changes to your relationship for the positive? Does it have scripting to change existing relationships for the better like Heartsong? Or will it only help you find new relationships if you’re not in one?

3) Is Chosen a light script like Ascended Mogul, a dense script like Emperor, or does density not even matter with how effective ZP is?

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That is the reason why my idea is to pair Chosen with Emperor or Ascension (at a minimum).

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Given the nature of QZP and Fire’s thoroughness, I doubt that this aspect was ignored. People of many flowery, powerful words are great, but it’s generally someone’s example that causes people to follow them and keep following them :slight_smile:

If that makes sense. Looking forward to seeing their answer to ya.

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Just to be clear, I have every bit of confidence this HAS been taken into consideration

This is the flagship program of the Zero Point Preview. Ya’ll really think that we made a shallow, surface level alpha leadership program? :wink:

There’s also a lot of personal assumptions in these questions. For example, the notion that a purely inspirational leader can’t be “effective.” Or, that a leader has to work as hard or harder than the people they’re leading?

Uhhh, why?

I’ve led multiple successful teams for various organizations. This is the first time that I’ve actually worked harder than my team (outside of @Fire). In my industry (marketing and product development), it’s my job to make strategic decisions, as well as communicate those decisions to stakeholders and get them on board. That means I spent a lot of time either looking at data or playing office politics, while my team did all the grunt work like data collection, reports, etc.

In one of these jobs that I had, circa 2014, my managerial position was infinitely easier than theirs, and yet I had the respect of the entire team and we had success after success after success. Why? Because I did mine very well. I made incredibly strategic decisions that led to success, all of their projects were approved, they saw tangible results that they could put on their resumes and when they left the company, they always got crazy high paying positions.

The notion that in every leadership position, you HAVE to work harder than those you lead is limiting. And how does one qualify who is working harder anyway? Using my industry again, my KPI is usually overall revenue. My staff’s KPI was something else entirely, something directly correlated to their level of output. Who can say that writing a ton of reports is easier than dealing with office politics (especially to a hard introvert like me)? There were many times that I wanted to do their jobs instead of mine, because I’m outstanding at data collection and analysis. I could finish a day’s worth of work in half the time and spend the rest pretending to work, lol.

Working more “effectively” is a productivity issue, not a leadership issue. Chosen focuses on developing good leaders, and while it has scripting to improve productivity and achieving goals, it’s not on the forefront because that’s not a universal indicator of what makes a good leader. Inspiring your team to action, bringing out the best in them, hardening yourself against negativity so that you can protect your team from office politics, being honorable, etc. ARE universal qualities of a good leader.

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I like this answer a lot! Very thorough. Really puts things into perspective. Thank you

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I’m running chosen but I don’t neccesarily see myself as leading in a business setting…I’m thinking more of an inspiring personality, warm aura, inspires love from others social/romantic. The sales page makes it seem like the sub could be steered this way…

Is this possible or is chosen scripting specifically towards business?

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i definitely don’t see why Chosen would be business specific. Actually, I don’t see anything on the sales page that to me even makes it seem business specific. The only quote that references business at all is

“In any position of leadership, you will be able to easily maximize the abilities of each of your team members and guide them in an organized and efficient manner”

This to me is all the sales page is saying. It’s SCREAMING this. I don’t see a single reference to business, and I see “warm, inspiring, loving, attracts people to help you accomplish you goals, attracts the right positive romantic partner” for you all over it.

Definitely sounds like Chosen is perfect for you if that’s what you want.

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It’s not business specific. Any situation where you would be a leader. Captain of a paintball team? Captain of a football team? Playing a team-based video game with friends? A Christmas dinner going awry unless someone steps in and handles it? And course, running a business, or running a team at work? Even establishing yourself as the leader of your household.

You’re good with Chosen.

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Sounds like Chosen will be a linchpin sub no matter my stack.

The subliminal glue that holds all my subs together.

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Yeah i figured but hearing it from the guy behind the curtain just gives me that extra certainty…thanks.

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@Trader yea. I plan to run it throughout all of next year. At least until I get my next promotion :slight_smile:

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Our of curiosity, for such a managerial position in your country, can you give and estimate on what you make a month? Iam curious to good this compare to my country, The Netherlands

Director of Marketing and Product Development in Los Angeles, I was making $75k base, plus commission, plus company car stipend, brought total compensation to around $125k.

Marketing Product Owner, was making $90k.

Yearly.

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per MONTH?

Haha I’m sure he means yearly.

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I ran 2 loops of Chosen this morning. I felt more powerful internally early on, like I could handle anything during my day.

I’ll share something that happened today. I was listening to Christmas music all day, trying out classic rock maybe twice. What happened is I got soft while listening. Thinking of what @Trader shared about getting soft himself on ZP files, I saw it for what it was.

But I cried without feeling any shame at all. I realized my crying in times past is felt to be stronger since it’s been linked to a fear of being squelched by myself or someone else. My mind didn’t go there at all. Not once. It’s like I felt this was part of the progress, and I wept occasionally, even desiring more emotional songs to trigger me.

I’m also not sure the songs made me weep. I’m still feeling it, and I’ve got “Love Bites” by Def Leopard playing. Yeah, I’m still weepy now. But I’ve always internally craved the passion they share in their music.

Chosen showed up at work since I realized that when I drive alone (which I do mostly), my only audience are those scanning the cameras for problems while driving. When I started DR earlier this year, I cried pretty freely while driving, and my supervisor said something one day, almost dismissing me since he thought I was having some spiritual experience (not his thing). I was listening to Christian radio, and yeah, I was soft.

But today, I felt and imagined I was strongly encouraged to be me. That’s very new. I even felt like I was modeling some freedom. I like being the one experiencing the needed change, and modeling it had me feeling like a leader to someone I may or may not ever see.

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Yearly, lol.

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You’ve accidentally given me something to strive for :wink:

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