Main Disc. Thread - BDLM ZP (Updated Nov 2023)! Q Core Now Available!

Pp bigger in 30 days or ur money back

The metric used will be baseline = pp smol, after 30 days = pp big

I’m not sure of how much more science you really need.

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Just want to add that this is the least sexy way I’ve ever been propositioned for a dick pic, but fuck it better than nothing. Chalking this up as a result from KBBC.

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I hope ppl won’t be posting a picture here like in the Legacy of the Spartan thread :smiley:

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I agree. 100%

First and foremost, while I can appreciate the question, please refrain from attempting to predict our counterarguments and then “poison the well.” It is by your standards that mentioning the 30-day refund policy is a “deflection,” not our standards, so I’d appreciate it if you (or anyone) could refrain from attempting to police my language.

The whole purpose of the 30-day refund policy is to allow people to test the program and see if it will work for them, then we collect that data to improve the programs. We have done this successfully for years, and I really don’t see any benefit in changing the way we do this. We don’t collect “cold data” which is just numbers that can be modified and lied about, we present everyone with an active community of individuals reporting experiences, which is far more useful in this field than anything else.

Before anyone tries to lecture me on scientific data versus what’s being called “subjective,” remember that I worked with data for over 20 years and I have seen with my own eyes how easy it is to present bullshit as “fact” simply because someone claimed it was “scientific data.” For this company, customer experience will always out shine anything else.

Mentioning the fact that we are actively collecting data using that forum – the same system we’ve relied on for years now to create great programs – is not a “deflection.” It is simply fact.

A few things:

  1. The forum responses ARE the data. And it’s just as useful and valid as any other data collection process. It has worked very well, based off the results of recent programs like Genesis, in which we directly incorporated all of the recent feedback that we’ve received.

  2. What exactly do you expect us to do outside of rely on forum feedback? Go to each user’s house and ask to see their penis and measure it? If you’re asking what my personal results are, then that is simply n=1 and has no alleged “scientific value” anyway. Therefore, the most reliable way to measure the success of the program, is again, by asking the people to report their results.

  3. The script is based off the same method as Legacy of the Spartan, which we already know is capable of generating astounding results based off the reports of the individuals. Please refrain from dismissing their results simply because it isn’t presented in a manner that you like. The individuals who go to the gym everyday knows their limits. If they are reporting a result, to dismiss it as “subjectivity” goes against what we do here at Subliminal Club. Likewise, an individual lives with his penis his entire life. He knows if it’s getting bigger or not, he doesn’t have to provide spreadsheets of data for that. If there’s one thing that rubs me the wrong way, it’s when someone reports a result, then someone else runs in and screams “nah uh, you didn’t measure it the way I would so it must be invalid.”

  4. We already know that one can use manual techniques, as well as devices such as the Bathmate to increase both the length and the girth of a penis. There are many people on this forum who will attest to that, as well as entire communities dedicated to those techniques.

  5. The so-called giant leap of logic needed to suggest that a subliminal program could indeed increase penis size, is not a leap of logic at all. If subliminal audio can help induce muscle growth – the same way lifting weights does – then it most certainly can assist in growth of the penis, just as you can manually.

So, to answer your question and everyone else’s – if you don’t want to buy the program, feel free not to do so. Wait for the results, and then give it a try (or not) then.

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I mean get why you’d want something physical in results listed. But honestly you just run it, see the results internal and external change yourself. Be it quick or slow, you get there. You state for example this sub so and so got x amount of increase in length or girth in so so amount of time. Then person B in same amount of time under different limiting beliefs or starting points will be like why didn’t my thing grow in the same way and speed.

Then further enhance their limitations on them not being able to increase physically in whichever way they wish to. Most of here have experienced these limitations or breakthroughs we encounter when running subliminals. Most of our gains are in realizing that we do not have limitations but the ones we or others place on us.

Short story to this is that each of us are different and have different starting points and having this kind of data would be counter productive. Like I don’t need to know the data behind why my phone works and or my vehicle, it just does.

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I imagine that this one would be a great sub for someone starting a career in the adult industry :slight_smile:

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Social experiment: When IT gets bigger…new problems lol :wink:

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Yes, this is what I’m trying to point out. We’d essentially have to host a multi-year clinical trial in order to obtain such data and even then it’d be completely invalid because we’re dealing with a situation where the main determinant of results is the individual’s development level of personal consciousness, which we have no objective way of measuring in the first place.

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I mean, it’s all good, but… you really corrected the “lore” of a PP subliminal. I’m just saying. :rofl:

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I understand where you’re coming from.

The way I look at it is, there are hundreds of reports of people experiencing bigger penises all throughout the forum. Just take a look at Diamond reports. People even report an increase in penis size on subs like Paragon and WANTED.

If you want measurements, you even have that from some members:

This is all with older tech and older products… which also focused on more than one thing.

BDLM is a new product that focuses purely on size, so it’s probably even more powerful.

Massive amounts of “subjective” (assuming your definition) data + measurement data + newer tech + Subliminal Club doesn’t take steps back + 30 day money back guarantee.

I would be optimistic in the results and try it out. This is just the way how I see it.

If you’re connecting all the dots, I think you’d naturally be quite optimistic? I mean, there is nothing to suggest that it doesn’t work and everything to suggest that it does.

I understand that you tend to be pessimistic about subs in general, as you previously described that you don’t get results like everyone else. You yourself classify as a small minority in comparison to the vast majority of users. I understand that’s tough to deal with.

I would recommend trying it out for a month or 2 while journaling and taking action. You might be pleasantly surprised.

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I’m saying that I couldn’t get into the joke because the “lore” killed the humor for me. Think about getting hyped up over the course of two days for a drop and then reading a poorly written joke in English on the product page that’s introducing it… it was a, dare I say it, boner killer for me.

Sorry :man_shrugging:t5: I wanted to love the joke like everyone else

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It. Is. A. PP. Sub. With. A. Giant. Eggplant. On. The. Cover. :joy:

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So this is probably the best sub for starting gardeners :slight_smile:

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If you intend on having sex with the garden, proceed. :wink:

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And within just 24 hours, the big pp energy on this forum increased by at least three six sizes.

Ah, the wonders at our feet! :joy:

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I ask a simple question. If some of them are seeing as attack, sorry for not formulate them in a more suitable way.

Appealing at authority is not a valid point, I can claim experience researching in cell biology and I am not doing so. Discrediting something as easy as taking measures and reporting progression is really a valid, ergo, refutable method. At least, better than astonishing results.

I have been using SC titles for more than 4 years, some of them with better results (e.g. Libertine Ultima v1 or Emperor V2 and 3), and others no(Limitless, QL, BL). Yes, I am thankful for those results.

However, the idea is to rely on influencing this so called “subconscious” to work according to our actual wishes. Thus, when those wishes are fulfilled, one can attribute the changes to the “subliminal intervention” even though confounding is always possible. I understand that you cannot run ramdomised controlled trials for each title.

In brief, the answer is: No.

Thanks for taking your time to answer it.

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Just be happy that your Japanese has improved so much. That’s awesome.

Yes, eggplant in Japanese is ‘nasu’. But honestly, there are so many alternate meanings for “ta-ke” that would still make a funny Japanese joke about this topic.

剛 - Hard, Firm
岳 - Mountain peak

There. Those are two ta-ke’s for you.

You already know that for every sound there are at least 10 or 20 different possible meanings. So just choose a meaning that is funny to you.

Indeed, Indeed… As the young bard once penned:

All my life I want money and power
Respect my mind or die from lead shower
I pray my d**k get big as the Eiffel Tower
So I can f**k the world for seventy-two hours

(Lamar, 2012)

haha…more like 4 hours.

That might be a little bit too big. (I’ll leave the obligatory Priapus image for someone else to paste this time.)

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I see that everyone prefers to go into battle with a sword rather than a knife :grin: I will use it tomorrow

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But in general skilled man with a knife is better than the below average man with a sword :slight_smile:

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