First and foremost, while I can appreciate the question, please refrain from attempting to predict our counterarguments and then “poison the well.” It is by your standards that mentioning the 30-day refund policy is a “deflection,” not our standards, so I’d appreciate it if you (or anyone) could refrain from attempting to police my language.
The whole purpose of the 30-day refund policy is to allow people to test the program and see if it will work for them, then we collect that data to improve the programs. We have done this successfully for years, and I really don’t see any benefit in changing the way we do this. We don’t collect “cold data” which is just numbers that can be modified and lied about, we present everyone with an active community of individuals reporting experiences, which is far more useful in this field than anything else.
Before anyone tries to lecture me on scientific data versus what’s being called “subjective,” remember that I worked with data for over 20 years and I have seen with my own eyes how easy it is to present bullshit as “fact” simply because someone claimed it was “scientific data.” For this company, customer experience will always out shine anything else.
Mentioning the fact that we are actively collecting data using that forum – the same system we’ve relied on for years now to create great programs – is not a “deflection.” It is simply fact.
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The forum responses ARE the data. And it’s just as useful and valid as any other data collection process. It has worked very well, based off the results of recent programs like Genesis, in which we directly incorporated all of the recent feedback that we’ve received.
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What exactly do you expect us to do outside of rely on forum feedback? Go to each user’s house and ask to see their penis and measure it? If you’re asking what my personal results are, then that is simply n=1 and has no alleged “scientific value” anyway. Therefore, the most reliable way to measure the success of the program, is again, by asking the people to report their results.
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The script is based off the same method as Legacy of the Spartan, which we already know is capable of generating astounding results based off the reports of the individuals. Please refrain from dismissing their results simply because it isn’t presented in a manner that you like. The individuals who go to the gym everyday knows their limits. If they are reporting a result, to dismiss it as “subjectivity” goes against what we do here at Subliminal Club. Likewise, an individual lives with his penis his entire life. He knows if it’s getting bigger or not, he doesn’t have to provide spreadsheets of data for that. If there’s one thing that rubs me the wrong way, it’s when someone reports a result, then someone else runs in and screams “nah uh, you didn’t measure it the way I would so it must be invalid.”
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We already know that one can use manual techniques, as well as devices such as the Bathmate to increase both the length and the girth of a penis. There are many people on this forum who will attest to that, as well as entire communities dedicated to those techniques.
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The so-called giant leap of logic needed to suggest that a subliminal program could indeed increase penis size, is not a leap of logic at all. If subliminal audio can help induce muscle growth – the same way lifting weights does – then it most certainly can assist in growth of the penis, just as you can manually.
So, to answer your question and everyone else’s – if you don’t want to buy the program, feel free not to do so. Wait for the results, and then give it a try (or not) then.
I wanted to love the joke like everyone else
I will use it tomorrow