Main Disc. Thread - As Above ZP, So Below ZP

[RVconsultant]

@Athanaxos

Do you guys have any thoughts about that?

Support ticket, and please post the reply.

[Athanaxos]

@RVconsultant

Support ticket, and please post the reply.

Yup! I did that earlier today. Will make sure to share the reply!

[RVconsultant]

@Floridianninja

Going along with this would it be bad to add spiritual modules to my emperor custom?

I would encourage focus with ZP. Harnessing energy should work.

Channeling spiritual help? Perhaps Alchemist.

Things such as Energetic Development IX might help Emperor, but putting in something very spiritual with Emperor such as Spiritual Freedom, I don’t know.

How about listing your hypothetical subliminal to get input?

[MadaraUchiha]

@Davisnwc

Dropped just in time for my bday.

As Above ZP:

Produced a profound physical, mental and spiritual relaxation and rejuvenation that surpasses even love bomb. Made meditation effortless and towards the end of the loop I felt a definite uptick in energy.

So Below ZP:

Basically it further boosted my energy level and has me feeling like I’m ready to bum rush all my goals today; where as before I was kinda dreading how long today will be, now I feel prepared for whatever comes my way.

Both of these feel way stronger than the previous versions, but even the previous versions were quite powerful. Hope the scripting was able to get changed around so that these could be used as boosters, and also to increase one’s baseline energy levels over time too.

hey man.

it’s been 4 months since you made this post.

are you still using this product?

how are things going?

[MadaraUchiha]

@Davisnwc

Idk about sexual energy itself but any alpha title like ascension that I’ve paired so below with has had an instant effect with amplifying that alpha-like energy and expression about a good 3 fold at least. So below can be the fuel for an alpha flame and being that sexuality is tied to emotions, I don’t see why it wouldn’t boost a sexual sub.

not sure how i never saw this post until just now.

thank you for this info.

[Davisnwc]

I’ve used these a couple times. I don’t keep them as a staple in my stack because although I love the energy that combining these two creates, it doesn’t tend to last me very long. I’ve only used these as booster sparingly.

[MadaraUchiha]

How long would ypu say the effect lasts for you?

Fo you think you would get the full benefits using the product only twice per week or even that is too frequently and the results would start to get less significant?

Also, have you noticed an increase in sexual energy from either above or below zp?

[MadaraUchiha]

anyone using this product please share your thoughts.

my gut says this product is very underrated and could be very useful for all kinds of goals.

expect a review from for this product in the nightlife soon.

[Invictus]

@MadaraUchiha

anyone using this product please share your thoughts.

Even if I told you how good this product (especially SB, as that’s what I use), you wouldn’t really pay attention
So wasted effort

[Davisnwc]

Effects tend to last 3 or 4 hours. During that time I’m granted a super intense wellspring of energy. I can’t say that it directly boosts my sexual energy but both programs can definitely be directed to help you build it up.

[MadaraUchiha]

@Davisnwc

Effects tend to last 3 or 4 hours.

thanks for the info.

how many times per week where you using the product when it lasted 3-4 hours per use?

[Davisnwc]

You’re welcome…Twice a week

[MadaraUchiha]

@Davisnwc

You’re welcome…Twice a week

this was very helpful as i prepare to test this product in the nightlife.

thanks again.

[Athanaxos]

I posted this in my journal in the Black Section, but I figured it would be relevant to ask it here as well

@Athanaxos

Something I’ve been reflecting over recently. What would overexposure to energy-generating titles look like? I’m thinking primarily about AA/SB, but also energy focused customs, and to a limited extent QL and Alchemist. How would you know if you are in recon or stonewalling from the energy cultivation itself?

Has anyone here any experience from overworking and overloading themselves from spiritual energy work, either in general, or from use of subliminals?

[MadaraUchiha]

@Athanaxos

primarily about AA/SB

i have spent hours the last few days trying to gather info on this product and can barely find anything.

does not seem to be a popular product at all.

so looks like ill just have to find out for myself which is not ideal to go in completely blind like this but no choice as barely any info on this product on the forum.

[Athanaxos]

@MadaraUchiha

does not seem to be a popular product at all.

Indeed. And I find it strange too. But I suppose that the concept might seem foreign to new users, and the older and more experienced users are most likely already using customs with energy modules anyway.

And I think people opt out of AA/SB in favor of other major titles in their stacks, but I am wondering if people might be underestimating the boosts these potentially can give - so I believe it’s worth examining.

Still, I am trying to gauge how much I could use these with my stacks, without it being too much. I have nothing to measure against except for noticing when I hit the brick wall, I guess. So that’s how I’ll find out

[MadaraUchiha]

@Athanaxos

but I am wondering if people might be underestimating the boosts these potentially can give -

yeah i think this is it.

looking back i definitely should have already tested this product a long time ago.

honestly i think the problem is it has an absolutely horrible name.

i bet most people just see the name of the product and move on without even a 2nd thought.

i bet most people have never even read the sales page as they lose interest based on the title alone.

compare that to the very marketable name of popular products like Emperor and you can see why this product seems to have no users.

@Athanaxos

I have nothing to measure against except for noticing when I hit the brick wall,

yeah that is the tough part with no review, you have to go in blind and do not get to learn from other peoples experience in advance.

btw, can you please share your experience overall with this product?

in what practical/tangible ways would you say this product has improved your life so far?

[Athanaxos]

@MadaraUchiha

honestly i think the problem is it has an absolutely horrible name.

i bet most people just see the name of the product and move on without even a 2nd thought.

I concur. It should be changed, and the “as above so below” -thing can be kept in the description or as a subtitle. How can generating energy not be a priority, in a world that constantly drains it from all round you? And it’s sold as an “esoteric” product, which already is very niche. Most people won’t probably even give it a consideration.

@MadaraUchiha

btw, can you please share your experience overall with this product?

I’ve only used So Below in a way that I can measure

@Athanaxos

I decided I wanted to try a run of As Below this morning to both store some of that energy, but also to direct some of that energy towards healing and re-vitalization. I’ve been looking at this this, this, and this but neither would make me any smarter, except that So Below would make you feel more grounded while As Above could be beneficial for manifestation (and connection to the divine above) purposes… So… I realized that I had to try it out and see for myself and I must say… I was pleasantly surprised.

After running it when in a calm semi-meditative state during my daily commute I started to feel somewhat better. As I focused on the no-thing… the sound of the rippling water intuitively brought me to a vision of a lively pouring natural wellspring at my root, and the water was vitalizing. Like the red light or life force one draws from the Earth, from “Gaea”. I was still tired, sure. But I didn’t feel as bad in my body as I did before.

And also… heh… when I arrived at the station I felt grounded AF. Like I had a pair of those Gravity Boots and they firmly sought out a connection with the ground with each step. The feeling I had I can only describe with a metaphor, and that would be… Antaeus.

“Antaeus was the son of the gods Poseidon and Gaea, one of the Gigantes, in Greek mythology. He drew strength from his mother, earth, and was invincible while he was in contact with her; he challenged people who passed by his area to wrestling matches, in which he always won, and killed them in the end.”

That’s from when I used SB in my stack as the 3rd title.

I’m tinkering now with trying out 7 minutes of AA or SB and then try to gauge the effects, but I’m afraid it’s not very accurate since I am also running other energy cultivating tittles at the moment too. Still, I will share my results, of course. More research is required.

[Grimnir03]

I routinely overload on these ZP titles for a week or so and then back off for a couple of months. Then repeat.

Alchemist Stage IV
Quantum Limitless 3
Quantum Limitless 4
Mind’s Eye

Then I will listen to nothing else. At the most a couple of loops of Sage Immortal once a week.

So this AL4-QL3-QL4-ME ZP stack leads to severe energy overexposure in as little as 24-36 hours and I need to shut everything off for a good three weeks or else I just don’t make any progress in my journey.

I have done brute force too but it has been unproductive, actually detrimental to my spiritual endeavour (Eastern Mystical Schools) and as a result I stay away from spiritual stuff for a long time, instead spending my time watching horror movies!

On a side note, AL4 ZP did severely mess with me cause I underestimated it’s power and spent four hours straight listening to it on my earphones.

Coupled with my hobby for binge watching horror flicks along with Al4 ZP insane overexposure, in the beginning I really thought that AL4 ZP had the power to sumon up demons and malevolent entities.

{I still believe it but Simon says otherwise}

Stay well!

[Gemstone]

I´m scetching on an astral projection custom, and I´m thinking of adding one of these.
Which one would be most suited to pair with the AP X-core?