Luther's WANTED ZP journal (ChosenZP then PSZP added later)

That’s interesting… Do you think I have an aversion to calm? I definitely have an aversion to stagnation lol :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

I’m actually really calm and chill in real life but on a growth forum, if all the posts are like dark introspections, dealing with tough topics that really challenge perceptions, and what not, it requires a different type of energy out of me, lol like things become serious. I don’t think anything about growth is calm and easy. Most people experience the most growth when they hit rock-bottom or are in the darkest moments of their life. Some of my most profound shifts are when I got my ass whooped, like really whooped - metaphorically speaking. What I mean by that is, for example when I remove negative beliefs it’s like having a perception that I want to desperately defend and think is normal and cling onto it like a crying kid holding a car door being grabbed by the legs yelling “I don’t wanna go” … I have to come to terms that it’s madness and let go lol.

That’s the thing with our limiting beliefs, negative beliefs that create trauma. They’re things we consciously think are normal, that’s why we can’t see them.

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My intensity/energy is like how MMA fighters train and push each other in the gym.

It’s the environment and purpose. I perceive this environment and purpose to be → Maximum Growth.
So the energy I come with, is not the typical everyday, calm, we’re just chilling, etc.

The MMA fighters are pushing each other in the gym like savages and if you’re lackadaisical then they will crack down on you viciously. Might even tell you to quit if you’re showing signs of weakness, to motivate you even more. That type of stuff, lol… because it’s the gym and they’re training together for a purpose. Obviously when they’re not in the gym, there isn’t a reason to be that intense. There is a time and place for everything

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Yeah you’re right I’m only seeing one aspect of you on this forum not the whole picture. That goes for anyone on here as well, things have a tendency to be put under a microscope.

But calm doesn’t have to equal stagnate, that’s what I’m sort of getting at. Hypothetically speaking what if growth was calm and easy? What kind of feeling would that give you?

Also I think I understand better where you’re coming from now and why you bring that intensity here. But that’s definitely one of many different approaches.

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Not everyone wants to be an MMA fighter. Not everyone wants to have MAXIMUM GROWTH. Some people just wanna gain a comfortable living with making enough money to be fine and a chill wife, that’s it.

I recently saw this discussion with the Red Pill and especially Tate. He is selling this lifestyle of the Playboy. To be this you need to be rich, jacked, a fighter, and manipulative to some degree.
But guess what, not everyone wants to be a playboy.
Me for example, I couldn’t care less.
And this is where the Red Pill or any “one-size-fits-all” solution falls flat. Or even your idea of “gotta push hard man!”

It’s just not for everybody. And maybe it’s not your tribe, I fully get that because I was at this point.

But as Fire recently said in his long masculinity post. At some point, after pushing hard for years, you wonder if you really need that or if that energy could be redirected somewhere else.
For example, I stopped bodybuilding hard. I don’t need to be superjacked. I still exercise to be healthy, but bro, there is nothing gained by being superjacked for me at this point.

It’s a realisation that you are the king of your own life and YOU, and only YOU can decide how it unfolds. You don’t need to follow internet advice on being jacked, a playboy, or whatever.

Now since you ran Emperor and Khan for a while, naturally you want to be on top of the world. So this is your path. Walk it man, no problem. But a great Emperor also knows that not everyone in his kingdom is destined to rule :wink:

In the same token, this forum is for anybody. Not just Emperors and Khans :wink: I am not a fan of censorship either. I’d love a fully free internet, but imo people aren’t even ready for this, as you can tell by any new censorship free platform, it just becomes racist.
So, yeah, trying to have civil interactions without cursing is something I see as a virtue to work towards. But if you wanna keep being raw and tough, then you will have to live with being edited on here :smiley:

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I don’t want everyone to be an MMA fighter, that would be insane lol.
It’s an analogy for why I come here with a different energy.

Another analogy is going to the gym.
You don’t go to the gym to do nothing, you go there because you have a mission.
Everyone is here for the same reason - they want to grow and reach their goals.

If your goal is to make a comfortable living and have a chill wife, it’s still a goal that you’re striving towards and focusing energy on.

Of course everyone has different interests.
My thing is not with accomplishments, interests, personal preferences, personality types etc.
It has nothing to do with that. I understand that everyone is MASSIVELY different.

My whole thing is universal and applies to everyone. I’m solely talking about ENERGY.

My issue is one thing and one thing only - stagnation energy.

The opposite of that being forward, growth energy.
Like getting the ball moving, taking action towards what YOU want, being pro-active, being unrestrained by fear in how you create. The journey may be different, the goal may be different but the energy is still there - is it not? The energy is what brings us together.

I’m not a fan of Tate, but I appreciate what he teaches men about positive masculinity and in how he motivates them.

I actually don’t believe in things like status or being on top of the world. I believe in happiness, high vibration and being the best version of yourself, HOWEVER. Being all of that means being HEALED - that includes one’s MASCULINITY.

Every man has that inner hunter drive within them, every man is on the hunt for something. This is figurative language, I’m talking about an energy that propels. An energy that COMPELS to move FORWARD. Whatever one chooses to channel that into is none of my business, but it has to exist there. If enough of that isn’t there, that’s not a personality type that’s just unhealthy and a result of being damaged. People do a lot of lawyering to try to defend themselves which I guarantee you they’re doing now as they read this, like making things sounds extreme “oh no, no, no that’s not for me” AS IF it’s a fucking preference lol.

It’s not a preference, it’s part of being a HEALTHY man. It’s part of being alive and having life force. It’s the most basic shit ever but people make excuses for it and do all this reframing, contexty gymnastic bullshit just to get themselves out of developing HEALTHY masculinity. That’s the epitome of madness and just another reminder of the lengths our minds go to in order to keep us safe and in our little stagnated comfort zone bubbles.

I’m not telling people to “push hard” I’m telling them to have clarity and focus in what they want. To be unstagnated in getting what they want and to have that forward mindset growth energy. I don’t give a shit what they want to do, I support them in anything unless it’s unhealthy.

I agree with everything you said in your post though, you’re right about everything, well said lol

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I, personally, think, because of my own experience with ZP, that many of the users are currently stuck in “what do I actually want?”

Tough to have forwards energy when you dont know where “forwards” is.

As it was for me. It manifested in running ALL the subs. I think I have almost all subs from the shop. I also ran most of them. I was back and forth, here and there, because I didn’t know where to go.

ZP itself, I think the core script, sort of unraveled to me going forward (get it?) where I need to go. It showed me my path because more and more I was drawn to the spiritual subs.
Now that I am on it after a great experience on GLM, I have this forward energy again.

But while I was coasting, not knowing where to go, it was stagnating.

So I get you, and yes, we both agree, but I feel like this is a necessary healing/realization progress within ZP.
After all it’s the Zero Point. The beginning and end. It all starts with you, but for some there is more undoing of societal shit necessary before they get there.

So yeah:

I think this is part of the process.

Was for me. I was going towards the playboy route. This is how I started with subs. Now I am on the exact opposite site lol This IS that energy at work. Imo :slight_smile:

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Most of @Skadoosh post from a very long time was real. He says it in manner that carries to much force and action.

I had been reading most of the long posts in the Khan, Emperor and GLM threads. The information was real and factual. I didn’t feel the post picked on my ego and all that crap that goes with that. I learnt a lot from the posts which I could really apply to my life instantly.

It is extremely difficult to read a post on a forum and feel a shift and be moved by it. The masses have us believe one side whereas our true masculine side is the total opposite. Our social circles are so strongly ingrained in societal bullshit that they constantly disregard masculine energy. Now you see the problem we face?

Running an alpha title while still wanting to be accepted and cheered on by your current environment?

You will be disregarded not because of the title or that you are wrong but because of masculine men are a force! That creates fear in other weak men.

Read this and pick out the different energies.

  1. Wake up early and take the day on.
  2. Wake up early and take the fucken day on.

I think you get me. :facepunch:

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Some really great insights there, I hadn’t thought about it like that lol well said

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Amen :laughing:

Anyways, I’ll get back to posting results in the journal I guess lol

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Outside of the big gates of this journal… sounds can be heard of the crowd cheering out of joy and excitement

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Just the CWON True Sell Custom at work helping me to tap into people’s minds :smiley:

I might still be wrong haha
Either way, keep em posts coming, I like these conversations.

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Sure lol, later

stacking Khan with RICH, lol.

I’m in wealth mode right now.

My journey’s been something like:

clueless financial life → decent income (Emperor and Mogul)

no sex life or experience with women → complete sexual abundance (Emperor, Wanted and PS)

Now my main mission is to go from:

decent income → complete financial abundance (possibly millionaire status lol)

I have undergone massive shifts in the past month and I’m taking off.
I’ve been taking action like crazy. It’s like when I was on PS ZP but instead of women, it’s wealth.
One thing that always helped me is by framing life like it’s a video game, lol.

Ever since I started to focus and direct Khan + my sexual energy towards my wealth/financial goals… I started to get new ideas along with a relentless push to execute them. It’s pretty awesome

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
that was a good one

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that Koala is life lol

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Gotta say me like the new profile pic :eyes::heart_eyes:now I find you’re very approachable lol

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You like Koalas? Lol

Look at him peering over his empire with that determined look… Very Khan-like if you ask me

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