I have a theory that hero the light that shines stage 1 may well help.
Absolutely on the money here. Hero Origins or Hero Earth will dismantle the old patterns of âI need to feel wanted,â âI need to be desired,â or âIâll take any stimulation just to feel alive". That can feel like a drop in libido because youâre not getting those easy dopamine spikes from fantasy, attention, or low-effort arousal.
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KB is definitely the ticket, especially stage 1, but Iâd say the other stages are not devoid of assistance either.
I will mention itâs not a magic bullet, even though itâs probably one of the best subs for it (and this is the month for investigating that solution, lol). If you are a very intellectual, inquisitive or explorative person, beating PMO may be more challenging than for âaverageâ people.
What you are likely to find, and I base this off my own experience, is that there are several different paths the sexual energy can travel down, and as a result a couple of different projections for how long it will take to beat the habit.
I would probably suggest (New) Regeneration with KB might be more efficient, because I have noticed Regeneration helps to stop you from repressing desires within the subconscious with too much force. That way, it allows the problem to be more in your face so you can confront it and examine it for what it really is. Repressing it through sheer force of will without close examination is a more difficult and less foolproof path than not repressing yet witnessing.
The reason I mention intellectual or inquisitive nature is that beating PMO, especially if it is a well established habit, means shutting or redirecting all the gates to giving yourself permission to go down that road. Once you have shut down the purely pleasure based pathways, you need to deal with the demonic and/or spiritual, which often appears on the surface to be purely mental at first.
Since astral parasites feed off the lower natures, including lust, they will often present one with âthoughtsâ such as the need to âtestâ your ability to resist the messaging present in pr0n, or other novel ideas that give you âpermissionâ to experiment. Such as âI really need to understand at a deep level what motivates this desire for PMO, so why donât I just do it and then watch very closely what happens in my mind and bodyâŚâ. In other words, you will come up with any seemingly logical excuse other than purely pleasure based motivations to go down that same pathway. This is usually at the same time as the sexual energy surges again, or is high enough to have a strong impact on decision making.
So when I say explorative, inquisitive, intellectual etc will have a harder time, itâs mainly because there is a greater range of circumstances that will lead to you considering the idea of PMO, and a greater tendency towards self-justifying your own actions.
When I originally started with KB, it did take me several cycles to get the tendency towards PMO down. I also found at the time that RoM helped me, but it may or may not help you. Itâs more likely to if you are a very intellectual person (which a lot of people with a tendency towards PMO are). You may need to let go of the need to remove the problem in a short period of time, because any habit which is as heavily entrenched as PMO (which is heavily linked to the subconscious) is going to require the same kind of level of force applied in the other direction, and this naturally means that adjusting your own relationship with this sexual aspect of your being may take longer than you expect, and it is best to maintain patience with your own failures in order to establish the new behavior.
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I think if any subliminal that is geared for the intellect should help lower the desire to masturbate. So I guess yeah KB1 with another intellect product ?
RoM was more useful for the meta level of mind, ie witnessing process and so on, as well as it protective aura at the time. I wasnât recommending using any particular intellectual product, although I suppose it could help in sublimating energy.
But in my mind stopping PMO has to do with a more general set of problems which can be addressed at the same time. and for which subs are only a tool to orient the mind.
I was able to control PMO while i used KB1, but i also generated a lot of energy.
I eventually PMOâed.
I have know about the easy way to stop smoking book by allen carr being really effective.
I found out he has something for porn and i finished it in 2 days. I have been PMO free ever since. I think someone on the forum also suggested its effective.
He writes the book in a way like its reading hypnosis. It truly works and it was effortless: https://read.easypeasymethod.org/
By using an intellect based sub any sexual energy generated is channeled into something creative. When I listen to my Hero Origins/KB3 i never get horny. It channels the energy to other things apart from sex.
it never worked for me, unfortunately 
You can try other shit it isnât the end of the world
Like a XYZ challenge
No porn for 14, 21, 30 days
Try other methods to jerk off
- Like standing up
- Be mindful of your breath while you jerk off breath in form your balls up the spine and let it out tell the air washes over the front in back into your balls
- Mirror masturbation
- Edging
You will get in tune with your breath, your eroticism , turn yourself on, have some pleasure and probably get tried( standing ), might even pop and be like shit damn maybe I should be doing this with a person.
Why itâs considered as lower, is having a higher libido bad thing, I see this notion everywhere but I donât understand
no worries, Iâve found my methods to quit the addiction. I am just curious as to why it works for some and doesnât work for others
Funny enough, out of all people in my immediate surroundings who are smoking and read the Allen Carrâs book, none were able to quit either