I don’t want to do anything today
I’ll give you some knowledge on PMO that helped me to quit it for good.
- quitting PMO is not beneficial if you don’t have access to women. You don’t have to utilize it (i.e. having sex with them) but you must have attractive women around you, that are attracted to you. If no one is attracted to you and you stop fapping, your brain seems to assume that you’ve become less dominant, etc. and it actually decreases benefits. I never had any benefits on quitting PMO before getting a girlfriend. It just made me more depressed, unmotivated and inevitably lead to relapsing - until I had girlfriend, I felt best when I masturbated but without porn.
- Find a good group of real life friends that are both enjoyable to be around and strive for improvement. Fun and enjoyment is the most important, yet improvement is necessary too. Improvement without fun is bound to fail and you’ll want to quit. Fun without improvement is just pointless
- Next, if you catch yourself watching porn, don’t take any effort to close the tab, etc. Instead, break the genjutsu and spend a few moments focusing on your body and environment. Your breathing, your posture, your hearing, eyesight, taste, everything. Realize where you are and what you are doing. Become a bare nerve. Realize that in porn, it’s actors. They had many takes and all of it is fake.
- Realize that everything in life is possible. Remember how many times you worked for something and life gave you an unexpected opportunity. If you don’t believe that you can change everything in your life, you are basically dead - your brain just won’t give you energy and motivation to change
- Constantly ask yourself “Who am I? Where am I? What is happening around me?”. Lots of people are disconnected from reality because it is stressful. Yet, if you don’t go into this stress, you won’t improve. The most absurd example of disconnecting from reality that I can think of is men who play videogames or spend time drinking while their children are hungry
- (this step is unnecessary if you master the previous ones but it can greatly help). This is to be combined with points #2 and #4. PMO 5x/day, everyday for at least 2 weeks, forcibly - upto a month, if you can handle it. Believe me, by the third week, you will HATE PMO. And not only because you will feel bad - you will hate it because you are making yourself do it. This is like everyone is trying to get good habits lol. “I’ll be going to the gym 5x/week from now” - and then fail because they can’t bear it anymore - it requires a lot of energy and returns are not seen in 2 weeks. Or they aren’t great enough, you just lose motivation
- Enough physical activity. That’s crucial. Extremely crucial. At least 50-100 squats daily + 6-10km of walking, up to 10-20 km of running + 400-600 squats daily
- Find more arousing (in broad sense) things to do - parachute jumping, fast driving, diving, etc. Everything which would make you feel more alive
And now steps to lower aromatisation (converts testosterone to estradiol) and normalize estradiol:
8. Stop drinking from plastic bottles, use glass instead.
9. Eat more cabbage.
10. Lose excessive body fat
11. Don’t be afraid to be yourself. Dance when you want to dance. Sing when you want to sing. Cry, sing in showers or in a car, etc. - show your emotions. Speak your needs and wants immediately, loud and clear - don’t be afraid to fight for your own comfort if necessary. Don’t tolerate idiots
I think that’s about it.
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Bookmarked!
I don’t do PMO but this post has value way beyond it!
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Thank you, I’ve read your messages. There are some points i disagree and agree , in shortly you say get a life, i agree but this part in my life i locked at home So most of your points not practical for me nevertheless i have to solve this issue i didn’t do pmo for like 9-10 days the issue recently i had with this, that after reachin point between 2 weeks and 3 weeks i get depressed due to retaining and then break the chain. Maybe i could do masturbation without prn, but ofteenly it leads to prn quickly. So i will wait and see
Yesterday at my leg day, i was doing leg extension with full stack and my trainer warned me that you are doing it wrong, i didn’t really understand his point so asked him to display how I’m doing he did it but I’m sure that i wasn’t doing like that because especially i give pay attention hold it my leg for 1-2 secs when my legs fully extended, and he said you don’t need to do with too much weight that he’s doing it with 80kgs. Bro.
i didn’t really understand, first I’m doing it because i enjoyed it. The only mistake I could have made when i started to exercise to lift it i applied more force and lift it quickly, maybe this idk.
And he said you might injury your knees with that but these are the actual exercises that almost healed my knees before them i couldn’t walk without pain.
But still i hear some noises when i do squat and i had slightly knee pain today probably due to yesterday. And im aware that stiffed hips and lack of mobility at ankle could be the reason but I’m not sure which one it. For hips i will do side plank for glutues medius maybe i might add touchdown single leg squat but without the touch lol.
only 3 out of 12 don’t apply lol
yeah, that’s exactly what I was talking about in #0.
When you can get women, you are able to perceive retention as “I’m working up an appetite” which leads to more excitement, quality of life, etc. - since you are getting all pumped up, testosterone rises, prolactin decreases, etc. you are naturally able to attract more women too and the brain perceives it as an increase in status and dominance. We are animals so we LOVE everything that leads to sexual dominance, social dominance and resources. Even more, those three are the drivers of the thing called “Enthusiasm” which is translated as something like “being posessed by the energy of gods”. Enthusiasm is the antipode of being forced.
When you can’t get women - you are keeping up your current hierarchical rank through PMO (even though it’s fake, at least it’s something). And when you stop, and even more - you are exerting your willpower to stop, the brain goes nuts. “We couldn’t get real women but at least we got something. Yet now we don’t have anything and we are the ones responsible for that” - the brain perceives it as a loss of dominance and lowers your perceived rank because you don’t get any sexual dominance now and you also turned into a slave (why would a free man hold himself from his own desires? - keep in mind that the desire is sex, it’s just that it can be realized through different ways).
It really does wreack havoc on our nervous system when we fight against our impulses. “Discipline” is one of the biggest lies there is. You shouldn’t be disciplined, you should be having natural desires to do good, productive and healthy activities.
What you can do is change your environment where doing your bad habit is literally impossible - that will be beneficial. Like, instead of sleeping on the floor because you decided so, even though there’s a comfortable bed right next to you, you should just throw your bed out. Or instead of trying to keep a diet, you can send all your money to a trusted friend and make him order you specific food at specific times.
That will even increase your motivation to improve your life conditions just because you’ve added yourself a basic discomfort.
Truly happy and successful people follow their impulses and very rarely use willpower (there were even studies on it). It’s just that their impulses are fine tuned for productivity, not time-wasting harmful activities.
@TheRock you might like this post too.
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Indeed 
Thank you!
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idont know what to do now, i feel stagnant…inner things and also external things…
Stupid family, fuckin stupids
Even if it’s 4th sub Im gonna run legacy of the Spartan I have nothing to lose , my upper body doesn’t grow for a few times, like I have(hit) plateau. And because of it’s my body and I can see it, I can clearly say if I’m getting results or not. I will try.
Edit: also I will add hammer curl again, because of Mike’s program I was not doing it. But I saw that he’s not right about all of the things in his program though I’ve already done some changes
Back from gym. It was arm and delts day.
I want to say that I feel like I’m not progressing. I can’t I read the weight or the reps. I don’t know why and actually when I saw my chest in mirror today I fell like It seems to have gone backwards in terms of progress. I was doing superset with pec deck fly incline chest press( chest day) and also I’m doing dips(at arm and delt day), it hits chest too (lower).
But I think superset it’s not beneficial for my chest. I will try pause and rest technique with incline chest press. For pec deck, last week I tried seated cable fly thought that it’s more beneficial that pec deck, but I felt paint at my right shoulder, to prevebyt this Ill do external rotation before the move and I will check the height again. Also I expect to see any fucking tangible, noticeable results from LotS. In the thread I see people mention that they’re seeing results from evening without going gym. [ I ran before but didn’t see anything, first ive ran as a 4th sub then I’ve ran with only 3 subs(total)]
If I have to speak the truth I have worries about my country’s future, living in türkiye was not easy as well, but due to recent things I have serious worries, because they want to divide the country, I don’t even want to write here. I have hope, but not to the this fucking stupid disgusting degenerate politicians.
Imperialism want to divide türkiye they couldn’t achieve through t*rrits now they try through muppet politicans by trying to change law , but I don’t think this gonna happen, these politicians can make their voters accept anything but not this. I don’t know what to say, I hope everything will be okay.
But as Atatürk said, there are no hopeless situations there are hopeless people i’ve never lost my hope
Today while I was driving in reverse gear I hit a car accidentally, I was not aware of the car but hopefully there’s no nothing serious, some damages. I have to pay for the other guy too.
Really I feel frustrated sometime I don’t wanna feel, I feel like stupid, empty. Why do I live?
As if I don’t have any other problems, I have to deal with this now.
I don’t really think that I’m gonna be successful at life. I’m not gonna make it. Same life for years. Same mistakes. Little improvements
I wish the car accident hadn’t happened, but it did anyway, I have to wait the Monday to fix this issue, waiting is worse than accident
I feel more calm than the befores. Especially in the morning I felt so calm and care free while in bed.
But I started to think this that I’m sabotaging my self. I don’t allow to my self.
Today it’s leg day, I was thinking do short sprints today. But probably I won’t do this and instead I’m gonna do normal leg lifting. I will write later why I’m not doing it now I have to go to gym
Sometimes I enter the Twitter to see some cool pictures on timeline. But I see sick people despite that i blocked the accounts and click the ignore button. Sick people.
I didn’t do sprint workout, the treadmill has speed limit and also the gym owner told me that sometimes they give errors and it’s not always safe.
I thought to running at pitch but time was not good for this. Next time I have to go there like 11am. If it’s not cold I would run at night time. But I have to do cardio.
like life loses electrical magical side for me for years. i dont remeber the last time that i got satisfaction of doing something. i want to have fulfillment of doing sometihng, i want purpose. ihave to independent form my family, i want to be, i need it. im sabotaging myself, i feel guilty because of my failures i havent go to universtiy yet i dont work at anywhere too, i have to study my lessons but im not doing this too. this adds more frustrations.
i dont want to think anything, i want whatever god wants for me, if he is the creator, source it means that he knows everything better than me. but actually i cant trust this thoughts %100 percent. I can’t get myself into this. i dont know what is right for me.
i have to be in flow with the universe