EXPERIMENTAL Microloop / ZPU Listening Instructions

[gdbdboy]

@SaintSovereign

No, you would continue with this new schedule. Theoretically, if you have managed to reach a recon-less 15m loop, it would not bother you to use this schedule. But again, you must work your way up following the strategy. That means going back down when you experience recon. You can, of course, continue to use it at your “sweet spot” for as long as you want.

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[BlissAdventurer]

@JCDenton

If the goal is always to reach the full 15 minutes in the end, may I ask why you have been running mostly 30 seconds loops when you ran KHAN Black and why you didn’t increase your exposure time to longer? Thanks.

Saint shared before. His mind needs to be in stable and relax mode so that he can write the script.

He doesn’t want the script quality being affected by recon.

[SaintSovereign]

@JCDenton

@SaintSovereign
If the goal is always to reach the full 15 minutes in the end, may I ask why you have been running mostly 30 seconds loops when you ran KHAN Black and why you didn’t increase your exposure time to longer? Thanks.

First, I have to avoid recon much more than the customer. I am also an avid Qigong practitioner and didn’t want to overload or tax my energetic systems. I was using KB to boost the Qigong, not vice versa. I proceed very slow and with focus and discipline when engaging with anything.

@anon15812918

@SaintSovereign can you give a rough estimate on how long it would take someone to get to full loops? I understand that it’s individual but I’m afraid to just rush it if I don’t notice recon, so I want to have a rough timeframe at least

Very much depends on the individual. There are some who are already doing full loops and getting good results. Others have to proceed slowly. There are many reasons as to why someone can progress faster, but please note that none of them really have to do with a person being “inherently better” than another. I point this out because the nature of the script meets the person at their level, and in many cases, those who are using less exposure get better results than those who do the full loop.

[WinglissStark]

@SaintSovereign we can run 3 subs in a day with these instructions right?

[gdbdboy]

@SaintSovereign

Under the progressive microloop strategy, you would listen to all three titles at the appropriate length in the same day

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[SaintSovereign]

@WinglissStark

@SaintSovereign we can run 3 subs in a day with these instructions right?

What @gdbdboy said.

But once again, you MUST start over and work through the microloop strategy if you’re going to try this pattern. Please do not listen to all three at current listening lengths.

[WinglissStark]

Yes sir noted. That is a really great and exciting thing to hear!!

[Joa23]

@SaintSovereign

you MUST start over and work through the microloop strategy if you’re going to try this pattern

I think Im gonna do that as soon as Wanted gets updated.

[RagnarLothbrok]

So will I eventually be able to listen to full loops of 3 different titles at the same day together? Every other day?

[ryder004]

@SaintSovereign

First, I have to avoid recon much more than the customer. I am also an avid Qigong practitioner and didn’t want to overload or tax my energetic systems. I was using KB to boost the Qigong, not vice versa. I proceed very slow and with focus and discipline when engaging with anything.

I just started qi gong 2-3 weeks ago, and granted I’m very new to this; but wouldn’t qi gong generate more energy to execute subs ?

EDIT: I guess context matters a lot here, and the sub in topic was KB which expands the amount of sexual energy, so I can see where putting too much energy thru the body can be a problem. Does this only apply to energy intensive subs like KB? Because like I said I started qi gong but I also do very much like the strategy of building up to a full 15m loop.

[weir]

@SaintSovereign

listen to no more than 30 seconds of a single loop

Got result in an hour with WB, i was absent from forum & abused myself with full loop or 7 - 8 mins , months gone by sometimes where I didn’t listen to any sub & when i listened there was no effect whatsoever but while reading one title description stumbled upon this after 1 or less than 1 hour got instant result & its like miracle, will start journaling again

[SubliminalWarrior]

@SaintSovereign

Under the progressive microloop strategy, you would listen to all three titles at the appropriate length in the same day. If that’s 30s, you’d listen to all three at 30s. Following day would be a rest day, where you would analyze your inner state, looking for recon. If there is none, you can attempt a higher rate of exposure the next day.

That is a great news
For example, if after 1 or 2 months I manage without recon to fully listen all 3 Titles in the same day at 15 minutes each, it is ok to continue like this? No rotation, just the 3 titles for the next 2-3 cycles:
Day 1: Title 1, Title 2, Title 3 (15 minutes each)
Day 2: rest
(maybe Day 3): rest
Day 4: Title 1, Title 2, Title 3 (15 minutes each)

This reminds me back in the Qv2 when I have had the same schedule.

And also what about stack rotation? How many days between removing Title 3 and adding Title 4 in a new cycle?

[Viktor]

@SaintSovereign

Under the progressive microloop strategy, you would listen to all three titles at the appropriate length in the same day.

Did I read that correctly?
We can… officially use 3 titles on the same day as long as we approach it responsibly?

I thought I was being a bit reckless by experimenting with 3 titles on the same day with the new schedule (even though one is not going above 10s).

Turns out we have the green light all along, rofl.

[Fractal_Explorer]

@SaintSovereign I experience recon even on 30s. Should I lower it more or continue at 30s? This phenomenon of no recon is non existent for me lol

[BlissAdventurer]

@Viktor @Fractal_Explorer
Do you have any title with anti-recon? I think you can do 3 titles in 1 day if at least 1 title has anti-recon tech

[Fractal_Explorer]

No titles with anti recon unfortunately

[GoldenBird]

It really does carry over in my experience, if you run a title with anti-recon in it first. It unlocked an older title that I had name embedded before, but which was difficult to run in the 10s to 30s range. Now I can easily run it for over a minute with no noticeable backlash. Anything uncomfortable that has come up I’ve been able to deal with in a few minutes of contemplation. No more extended emotional rollercoasters that almost incapacitate my daily life. It works really well, at least for me.

[BlissAdventurer]

@Fractal_Explorer

No titles with anti recon unfortunately

For new listening instruction, title with anti-recon really help.

[Viktor]

No yet sadly

[Fractal_Explorer]

I’m interested in anti recon, but I’m trying to only run one title to figure out some things for myself.