Simon thinks: “Has to be Sagittarius.”
Prepares chart…
Sagittarius Ascendant + Mars, Moon, Jupiter in Gemini
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hahahaha I’m a leo - but interesting fact that all my partners and most of my best friends have all been Sagittarius. ALL had birthday’s in the same week. (from 3rd Dec to 12th) Crazy weird.
This new guy I just started seeing - I asked him when his birthday was and he said late dec - I’m like - phew… or maybe it’s a sign it won’t be a long term thing.
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Guess we were both right haha
That’s your Sun sign, this just tells you how you express yourself. Each planet has a specific meaning in your life
(Mars is what you derive energy from, what you want to do, etc. Venus is obviously love, what you’re loved for, and creativity, Moon is your daily emotions and how you deal with them)
etc etc
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Ok… so according to this - what sub would be best for moi?
Or is the reason I have come to Subclub to inspire Saint & Fire to start a new range just for women in business *wink wink
Are you guys into Human Design aswell? I’m a projector with Splenic authority. Human Design is all the rage at the moment in the female coaching world. (I’m not really into it… )
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This is definitely something they work on. While all subs are unisex, some are obviously more focused on men, or were birthed mostly for men.
But my wife runs Seductress and Chosen the Way of Nature very successfully!
I, however, put a suggestions for a female version of Godlike Masculinity on the roadmap.
A sub that just fully focuses on expressing your female side, accepting it, using the female energy etc. without the physical shifting and sedcution from seductress.
I am sure they’ll do more of this.
Well your Mars in Gemini literally says that you can never stick to one thing, you always need new ideas. Your mind is tireless, you will get something new only to not know what to do with it yet again.
This also seems to be one of your main concerns.
Now, you have 2 choices:
- You can either try to counteract this as much as possible, virtually forcing you to stick to something. But reality is, that you will need to force you all your life because it doesn’t come naturally to you.
- You accept this part of you and figure out a way to implement this into your life and align with it.
For 1.) Emperor, Executive or Limitless Executive, potentially Stark. Subs that are focused on focused work.
For 2.) Chosen the Way of Nature (align with your nature) or Heartsong.
Now, I personally would recommend No2 because this is also what makes you happy in the long run. Humans are always happiest closest to their nature. At least in my experience.
How could you do this with money where consistency is important?
→ Social Media. Create a social media channel around your personality. Not a specific topic, what you like to talk about, which is constantly switching but interesting topics.
Obviously, however, this might take a while to grow.
Or write fiction books with ever-changing stories and ideas to cover.
The other way is to find a man who can support you financially (obviously not the only criteria) so you can just live out your ever-changing personality (Heartsong would be your sub there).
Then again, from what you wrote I think I already know what you will choose 
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OMG - having a man support me is my idea of a nightmare. I am extremely independent and hate relying on anyone else for anything. I love being fully independent in every way. In my marriage I was the breadwinner for a number of years and I preferred it.
BUT… funny you should mention writing a book - at one stage I was taking writing courses because I started writing a book - my story is always like a soap opera, everyone tells me I should write a book. It was going to be my experiences as a fetish content producer. There’s a book that was made into a movie - adventures of a call girl - it was going to be similar to that.
I knew you were gonna say that Your Sun in Leo elicits leadership a lot, plus societal messages etc.
Hence why I gave you 2 options.
It’s your life, I am not deciding that for you. Astrology is always just extra data to think about. You don’t HAVE to act on it. It’s just from my personal experience, being close to ones nature FEELS best generally.
Look what your ascendant in Sagittarius also says:
The life of these people may be accompanied by a constant search for something that is very difficult to achieve. Even before reaching the goal they see another one that is just as difficult to achieve.People with Sagittarius Ascendant are full of passion and they need to use this energy and enthusiasm. They can be very inspiring when they stop showing off.
Not exactly an easy placement. I would still recommend start with a rough idea of what sub you want and ZP will guide you to your subconscious needs anyway 
I appreciate you giving me some ideas regardless.
One thing I have noticed throughout all of my years is that as long as whatever I am doing is different all the time and I get to use my creativity in some way, I will stick to it.
Hence, why being an entrepreneur is in my blood, you get to be the wearer of every hat and can do the bits in the business you love and delegate the rest. When I work in a normal job - it’s soul-crushing for me.
I like to have multiple things on the go at one time. Ideally in the future - I would want my main company and then other side businesses or investments that interest me. I also used to run a Non-profit animal rescue, my daughter is on the spectrum and she has a special bond with animals, so it helped her a lot, she helped out a lot with the running of it. She’s now in tafe training to be a nurse, then going into vet nursing after that. Again I need to set myself up financially before I can do that on the side again.
Also - just having a small giggle about the leader bit, which is why at one stage I was considering chosen.
People who learned astrology (not merely reading horoscopes) did it help inl earning about yourself whatsoever?
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Yea, it did. I didn’t care about astrology before I came across this thread awhile back, but reading it made me curious enough to dig into astrology a bit. Ultimately, it gave me a new lens to view certain aspects of myself in a way I hadn’t considered before…plus, it gave me a novel way to create a strategy for sub use.
If it’s piquing your interest, maybe give it a couple hours of your time. If nothing else it might trigger an insight or two.
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Pluto conjunct Chiron in 10th House
Pluto conjunct Lillith and Juno
Pluto Trine North Node
Venus square Pluto
Mars in Capricorn
Scorpio Midheaven
Capricorn Ascendant
Leo North Node
Mars trine Jupiter
Sun Trine Moon
Sun Sextile Mars
Venus Trine Mars (depends on orb)
I chose Khan as my main subliminal and will run for 1 year.
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It’s one of those life changing things I came across.
Simply because it gives more insight into one self.
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I’m reflecting today on Chiron.
“The Wound.”
I was thinking that the sensation and the insight of Chiron can be expressed thusly:
"I am no good (am unworthy) because I am not able to __________ ".
You can fill in the blank with the actions of the sign (and House) of Chiron in your chart.
If Chiron is in Aries, it would be
“I am no good because I am not able to assert myself or to compete effectively or to stand up for myself.”
And so on.
If Chiron is in the 10th House it would be:
“I’m unworthy because I’m ineffective in establishing myself in society.”
We all have areas in which we feel a fundamental sense of inferiority and unworthiness.
But the point of Chiron is to strive in these areas and to work with them.
A person never “conquers” Chiron, but we can develop a truce.
And these areas in which we experience incompetence, unworthiness, insufficiency, etc., are the places where we can test ourselves and truly learn profound insights.
They are the places where we learn about healing.
We truly learn about healing by courageously facing wounds.
And even though Chiron’s wound may never completely heal, the sense of unworthiness can heal.
The wound remains. But the gradually mastered lesson of Humility transforms Unworthiness into genuine Generosity and even Compassion.
There are some lessons that you can only learn in the mud.
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For me, the readings about me provided by the astrology websites are quite far off from my character in real life, so I don’t think astrology helps me much in learning about myself, unless I have been lying to myself.
On another note, I personally believe that a person’s character is shaped by his environment and other factors outside one’s control apart from his date of birth. These factors also include the influence of other humans like your parents, who probably would be influencing your astrological chart with theirs.
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You probably need something more in-depth than what you could get from an astrology website. Those tend to be generic and algorithm-based.
You wouldn’t take detailed medical advice from a general website. You’d probably prefer to at least get a blood test and have it analyzed by an actual specialist. Or if you wanted to analyze your blood by yourself, you’d probably make reference to books that explained how to recognize underlying genetic markers and so on.
Anyway, there are 1000s of useful systems in the world. If you’re not finding astrology useful, just choose from one of the many other useful resources.
One thing I can guarantee. No matter what resources, conceptual systems, etc., that you eventually find to be useful for you; there will be other people in this world who find it unacceptable for some reason or another.
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In my experiencew, this generally means that there was a lot of societal indoctrination (or from peers etc) that overrode your true self which is reflected by Astrology.
Or the readings were bad.
If anything, the more subs I run, the more I heal, the more I notice becoming the person mentioned by the natal chart years ago…
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I realised that we had been discussing the same issue previously in this thread.
Anyway, I’m more curious these days about the influence of a parent’s natal chart on those of the children’s. As an example, if the parent happens to have a domineering and protective attitude over the child, is that reflected in both the natal chart of the parent and the child?
Only if the parents lived true to their nature given by the natal chart, which these days is rarely the case.
What can be displayed is the upbringing itself. In my case the natal chart literally said I will grow up in a dogmatic religious household, and I will have to work through this and solve spirituality growing up.
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I think that one major part of the deal with astrological ‘predictions’ is that cognitive and perceptual bias are very real phenomena. They influence our experience of the world a lot.
The natal chart is supported by Confirmation Bias. In other words, we tend to see what we’re expecting to see or what we’re ‘wired’ to see. The natal chart tells you what you are ‘wired’ to experience and to see.
It’s much easier to predict a person who is not aware of or involved in his own ‘wiring’ or ‘programming’.
You can see this outside of astrology as well. For example, you can see it in conventional mental health issues.
A person who is living with paranoid schizophrenia is going to experience himself or herself being spied on and oppressed by malevolent forces. There are tons of plausible and real malevolent forces to choose from, and if none of those suffice, the person will readily construct a few using imagination.
This pattern is more obvious and easy to observe in a person who is currently experiencing psychosis, but, in fact, the same dynamic occurs in all of us.
- We project an experience onto the world.
- We ‘forget’ or erase the evidence that we are the ones who projected it.
- We relate to the experience as a purely external ‘reality’.
Unhealthy minds do it. And healthy minds do it too. Healthy minds just do it in more socially acceptable ways.
Astrologers. Con men. Illusionists. Salespeople. Artists. Anyone whose work involves influencing people or guiding people’s impressions. They all make use of our patterns of involuntary ‘Reality Projection’.
A skilled artist can draw 3 or 4 simple lines. Your brain will then unconsciously fill in the rest of the picture using imagination. And when that’s done you’ll even say, ‘wow, what an incredible picture! How did the artist draw that?’
Astrology is one of many systems that describes the patterns of your involuntary or unconscious ‘programming’, the patterns of your projecting.
And one of the first steps in improving the relationship to your programming is to find some systems that can accurately describe that programming. Such systems help us to, as Carl Jung said, ‘make the unconscious, conscious’.
As with most things, it’s a good idea to observe your programming for a bit, and to gain at least a little understanding of it, before you start mucking about with it.
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This is a dope post.
I’m Chiron in Gemini
Chiron in Gemini Meaning and Personality Traits | Ryan Hart.
Super accurate.
My Chiron is Gemini in the 7th house
https://astrologyowl.com/chiron-in-gemini-chiron-in-the-7th-house/
So for me the wound is is in assuredness in my communication, Timidity or hesitancy in self expression, over thinking emotions, and being more open minded about myself to myself.
The irony is my communication in my life empowers and shifts things for people in every way possible where it was not possible before.
Part of Chiron from my understanding is our wounds become our gifts. Our weakness become a source of strength for others.
7th house wounding is I am unworthy because I cannot establish -substantive stable to unbreakable loyalty and ties in romance and business. And the medicine from one perspective is in learning to be completely fulfilled and happy as an individual. (Not needing to be alone-but having that as a baseline. )
@Malkuth Where’s your Chiron placement?
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