well I wasn’t feeling angry last night running it. The anger isn’t interfering or override my experience, nor is it a reactive anger. It’s just a felt anger that was pushing for better conditions for myself- I feel a strong edge today but not particularly present to any anger
Although I am tired today- it could be because I’ve been intensely physically active lately-also ran Paragon custom in QV2 after DR last night.
Thank you for clarifying.
I’m running DR stage 2 at night the last two nights and so far I find myself exhausted by 5 pm, glad I’m only running stage 2 for a week or so.
Also Q subs feel incredible subdued when running alongside QV2
I feel extraordinary normal today now that I’ve overcome the fatigue bump-I still have some sense of primal/Emperor from running that custom today, but mostly I just feel cocooned and easy going from DR stage 2 QV2.
My chronic issues seem further diminished since running Paragon custom and DR Stage 2 QV2 and I’m getting intuitive sense of what to do and not do in self care to lessen them even further.
Running my DR stage 2 /Emperor Fitness Stage 4/ Mind’s Eye custom for likely the last time.
I’ll finish the week out with DR stage 2 QV2
I now much prefer QV2 for DR reborn and going back to DR in Q form feels like eating take out when you can have fine dining.
Glad I past my natural cycle- of aaahh change- what if …what if…what if…can’t believe I ever did it that old way 
I’m very glad you are taking this Dragon journey with me man!
Testing new custom Emperor/PS in QV2 today
felt great, crushed work-the usually initial 4+ hour later recon is now setting in, except this time I feel fantastically uncomfortable and off- almost too strong, to driven but also exhausted and brain fog at the same time-strong resistance to doing anything-physical symptoms in sinus/ear blaring-
ran Paragon Custom in QV2 last night and felt great
all signs pointing to running more than one loops of QV2 in one sub or stacking will take some getting used to.
heading to the gym soon- lets see what happens
Also seeing now it might have been better to stick with Primal- I chose Primal for the sexual status, freedom, and dominance without the push to focus on dating-the flow of it. And already feel the PS push.
That’s exactly what I noticed too. At first, it was tough to get accustomed to the new technology and later on (around 10 days later) it became swift.
Still only have two Ultima V2 boosters in my stack and no QV2 yet. (Quantum Limitless and Alchemist do not yet exist in that form.)
When I start my two new customs in May, it will be a whole bunch of QV2 at once. Then we’ll see what happens.
Your experience and @Azriel’s suggests that it’s almost like the shift to Terminus: start out with low loops and then possibly increase as you adjust.
@Sub.Zero
Yeah 1 loop today and 10 hours later I can still feel the processing, strong sound in my head distinct that the structural tinnitus I sometimes get, although there may be a correlation, that sound is always a sign of recon for me.
Felt totally blanked and estranged from life, with a feeling of wanting to quit subs, and even wishing I had never run subs lol. As I don’t know who I am anymore, and what if I am being fake or on some level making things worse for me —crazy deep stuff I have never considered-definitely strong recon
I felt super uncomfortable and antsy, like I couldn’t sit still, went to the gym for 90 minutes with a friend then we grabbed dinner and took a walk, and all the physicality and movement has me feeling better.
While this was all going on I also clearly saw the effects.
And they were fantastic, felt Emperor drive and knocked off work and to do list I had been avoiding, just banging one thing out after the other, total confidence and un-shakeability with people, I was super flirty and open from PS, talked to woman at the gym, PCC is harder to notice in this custom but definitely had a charm and fearlessness in challenging situations socially, with someone taking my weights, front desk person being a tools etc.
People went out of there way to treat me with a respect I was not seeing on my last Emperor custom.
No problem getting through the workout but the gym felt less interesting to me and less the safe haven it has become. By the end of it though-I was in the zone.
Honestly I am a little afraid to run this custom-it was really challenging internally and if I do I’ll have to test on a day I can get out and go to the gym, meet up with a woman, or go meet woman.
Hopefully it will stabilize soon.
I’m very ready to switch Emperor as the main Alpha sub. This will be my last month on it. I will close this journal, give a full report of what I ran this year and Emperor and the overall effects and results.
definitely curious on your thoughts on it.
for whatever reason it’s more difficult than terminus for me personally.
It’s good to add your programs one by one too not to get overwhelmed and see what each of them does for you. Stark Qv2 affects me differently than Q. The Qv2 is subtler yet hits deeper.
Not sure if I missed it, but what will be your new main Alpha sub?
Strongly leaning towards Khan. My plan was to run Khan and then add Stark at some point.
I may run Stark with DR stage 4 and then begin Khan after that or I may start Khan with DR stage 4
not sure yet
@Malkuth can I get your intuitive/ intelligent guidance on designing my fitness sub with APS/SPS systems?
Wondering if it’s better to try all 7 aps/sps to address an issue by tackling every possible cause or test 3/4 out at a time and see what works? The pro of the first is it is sure to work eventually, the con is the eventually, the pro of the 3/4 is it could be a jackpot, the con is it may not address whats actually needed.
I can post the technical details if interested.
Running DR4 along with Total Breakdown sounds very good to me. Unless, you’re planning on skipping TB.
Yes, but only because I know I can trust you to throw my ‘guidance’ the hell out of the window if it doesn’t make sense for you.
Yes, definitely interested. As long as it’s within your comfortable boundaries of confidentiality and privacy.
yes of course
I’m an open book, my biggest insecurity is that people will see me as a ‘complainer’ or weak for bringing up what to others might be a relatively small issue- now that that’s done with lol
The issue is multi-fold but it’s essential chronic Eustachian tube dysfunction on my left side, unilateral tinnitus symptoms of varying degrees on my left side, chronic sinus issues on both sides, specifically inflammation in the nasal passages, you’d think it was moderately bad allergies- but there seems minimal correlation in season and/or environment and I haven’t been tested this year but have never had allergies when tested a few years ago- allergy medications and nasal decongenstants don’t help and often make it worse.
I also have facial pain on that side with no discernible dental issues-The tinnitus symptoms also randomly but with some correlation times of high stress/recon jump from localized to ‘inside my head’ - they also get stronger with facial pain/ and jaw issues. This suggests both a structural and a neurological cause.
I have very minor TMJ issue - which could be rooted in the neck-which could also be a contributing factor- likely there are a multitude of contributing factors
This whole thing was initially a bit of a nightmare- as it was very hard to concentrate or relax or do anything when the symptoms were strong and anxiety about them created a negative feedback loop. Now I manage quite well and love life regardless, thanks to DR which has not resolved the issue but supported tremendously in lessening it physically and coping-thriving with it emotionally. But I would also love to resolve this completely-such that it’s not something to even be concerned with or have to manage.
Now that I can run Paragon in QV2 that also seems to be helping until I overdid it on QV2 subs-as recon always makes things worse.
The tinnitus symptoms while maybe at one point may have been from structural ear issues now may be a more neurological, nervous system, brain ‘issue’
My hearing is perfect on both sides and I’ve been medically cleared from any emergency intervention through MRI etc.
So to address everything as I see it
APS-ear -for structural issues-eardrum retraction etc relating to that or perhaps this module will directly act on the auditory nerve (although tinnitus symptoms often become associated with the brain-as people with severed auditory nerves can still ‘hear’ it. ) Or the module may even act in auditory regions of the brain
APS Smell- for sinus cavity issues as they are technically a structure of the olfactory system
SPS-Respiratory - this also covers structures related to the the nasal cavity and upper respiratory issues can be associated with tinnitus -also having been a smoker for years when younger- this is probably a good one to have
SPS Nervous system- being stuck in ‘fight or flight’ or having overactive vigilant nervous system-can be a source of chronic unexplained tension/contractions which structural could be a source of these issues, also generally an over active nervous system is a correlate to the issues I’ve mentioned
APS/ All Organs- specifically to address the brain in relation to tinnitus symptoms
SPS -Lymph system- the Eustachian tube blockage could start with inflammation in the tube itself, the inflammation from the nasal cavities, or issues in the tonsils and/or general drainage system. Lymph system covers mucous membranes, and Eustachian tube dysfunction has to do with challenges in draining the mucous from the middle ear to NasoPharynx …so something that acts directly on the mucous membranes and drainage system in general could support it. If the blockage is sourced lower in the tonsils- the lymph system SPS module would also support this
Head-For TMJ issues and/or directly for cervical issues -which due to nerve networks- can also be contributing factors in facial pain-blockages and tinnitus.
If you’ve made it this far- I hope you’ve enjoyed the small lessons in the incredible interconnected nature of our physical structure lol
lot of info but there you have it- run them all together at once- try 3-4 at a time? Smell and Respiratory redundant? Lymph redundant if APS Ear and Respitory/Smell would act directly on necessary issues in those areas etc.
Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
I was curious to experience DR stage 4 without any other breakdown/healing but if you’ve run it and think the combo would work I’ll take it into strong consideration.
I’ve run TB in a custom for 6 or 7 months. I would run the solo stage of TB in Q and QV2 for a month total before running the other stages of Khan
This is just a quick start. It’ll take me longer to come up with a really solid opinion. The modules are new and I’m still kind of sitting with them, reading the descriptions, and contemplating them.
But,
under Paragon and Asclepius (which I think usually make sense to put in positions 1 and 2), I’d first put:
APS: Head as the primary Physical Shifting module. Everything you’ve described: Ears/Eustachian tubes, sinus/nasal passages, jaw/TMJ; everything seems to be kind of localized around that specific area.
With APS: Head you will find your head and even your neck becoming healthier and more pain free. Pain that was recurring before such as headaches or migraines will become rarer with regular listening, and your head will gradually recover from any injuries you might have sustained.
I’d put A/SPS: Hearing in position 4. You don’t have a hearing problem, but the module helps to strengthen the respective structures of hearing as well.
For positions 5 and 6, I’d put SPS: Respiratory and SPS: Nervous System.
In fact, you’re mainly looking at the Upper Respiratory System. But that’s why we say “Conscious Intention”.
The main purpose of Nervous System would just be to optimize how your nervous system processes pain.
That would be it, in my opinion.
If this were a custom (rather than an Ultima) and you had additional slots, I’d include Harmonic Singularity and maybe Stress Displacement. (Some of what you described seems like it could be related to internalized stress and tension around the neck and head.)
Those are just initial thoughts.
My view is that the module actually doesn’t do anything except communicate to your mind. It’s your mind that finds ways to manifest the suggestions. That’s why you can have a module that focuses on the Head area. That’s a good enough focus for your mind to do its job (i.e., bringing healing to the overall area through whatever means are most effective).
I see a subliminal as kind of like a person with a VIP card that grants him access to powerful people who most people cannot access. That person is also a skilled communicator so that when he gets into the room and starts speaking, he can speak in a way that does not offend or irritate those powerful people. They’re willing to give him a hearing. After they hear him, they are powerful enough to make things happen. Those ‘powerful people’ are not fools. They’re not slaves. They can say no. They can even kick him out if necessary. They’re just not easily accessible by ordinary people under ordinary circumstances.
And that’s a very good thing.
To see what happens when the parts of our minds that create reality are too easily and casually accessed, please see exhibit A: Schizophrenia and Psychosis. It is a very good thing that the deep powerful parts of our minds cannot be accessed without real work.
Anyway, that’s how I think they work. And so, truthfully, it would probably be enough to just combine Paragon, Asclepius, and APS: Head.
No, I haven’t. It was rather about stacking DR rather with TB than Stark but if you’re panning on running it solely I guess that’s the best way to go.
This really clarifies a lot.
I actually didn’t expect to be enrolled in less SPS/APS models but I am fully convinced
Paragon and Asclepius will definitely be in there.
I’ll do Head, Ear, Respiratory System, and Nervous system.
The only one I"m still on the fence about is All Organs -for Brain. But I think going with 4 APS/SPS modules first, as per Fire’s recommendation, is smart and I can upgrade from them if/ as needed.
I could see those 4 along with Paragon being effective.
Yes, I believe these deeper parts/powerful people are gatekeepers that require our/ your/mine-trust. By our/your/mine I mean our most unifying conscious consciousness/ our most integrated adult aspect -not as an object or part of ourselves but as the subject behind the whole system. The part that could have a conscious relationship with the more conscious parts of ourselves, like a hurt part, inner child, inner skeptic etc. I think Subs skip this and communicate to the deepest most multifaceted and capable parts of our being as well as shift the relationship with some of the more conscious relationships.
That’s why action is so important- it’s also about showing the constituents of who we are that were capable of being trusted because were about what we say we are. The same way if a parent always told there kid one thing and did another.
It gets very complicated and not sure I’m doing the theory service in this moment-but I believe I understand what you are referring too.
Thank you for your sense about the issue, it definitely helps