All q: khan | emperor | primal | sm | libertine

@Lion Thanks man. Careful about the finances coming from a good salary though.
Do not get me wrong, I enjoy them money heh, but it’s difficult to get the drive towards financial freedom. The bigger the salary, the more I dragged my ass to actually start something on my own. While I am grateful for everything in my life, I do realize I could get fired tomorrow and my entire life would be shit until I get back on track.
Not a good way to live my life.

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If it works. it works. Everything is a guideline here as we are discovering together how things work and like you said we’re all different.

Let’s say thank you to @Fire and @SaintSovereign for making everything possible,and providing us with best practices. Let’s keep the guidelines in mind and if things are not working, absolutely fall back to guidelines.

Which one of the programs do you feel is best suited for a husband/father material ? As you have experience with them and i need some help maybe you could give me a advice what to run.

Thanks in advance

Dude, I bursted into laughter when I saw your username. Derivation from Hercules or something?

Based on my experience, I would definitely recomend khan+sex mastery for someone in a relationship. Whenever I run khan I get more in touch with masculine core, but I get more empathic as well. Also, the partner feels “more in love” and definitely more sexualy submissive.
I would not recommned emperor: I got colder, feeelings meant nothing and my gf felt belittled sometimes by my attitude.
So, I would go with either khan+sm or just sm to get things started.

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Haha, something like that dunno where i got it from used it fort 20years now.

Thanks for the answer. Khan is alot sexual oriented if i want something more to get me to some kind of wealth or drive and purpose is that emperor then or what to add to get that side of the coin to ?

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That right there is the reason I combined them(with a higher ratio for Khan).
I’ve compared khan and emperor here: Ultimate sexual, masculine, laid back alpha stack
and with my current stack I’m getting the best of the 2. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t have the drive/obsession to do things as with emperor alone, but good enough not to feel I miss out on that.
As of now, I think a khan/emperor stack is great and I can play around with ratio based on short term objectives.

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That’s weird, my experience with Emperor is like yours on Khan. But then again, feelings meant nothing before I met my girl.

I think this has to do with the impact of the person, if they’re temporary, we don’t give a shit…

But when they’re not, it’s a different story.

By any chance, I’m the only one thinking it’s like this?

@Myster no man, I think it’s natural and healthy. When you first meet someone, you shouldn’t even consider if they like you or not, just be yourself so they can get to know you. I can see emperor being priceless here, since it will really put you in an outcome independence state.

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Here’s a long overdue update: I ordered my custom based on EQ/KHAN/PRIMAL/SM both in Q and terminus strength.I run 6 terminus loops during the night and 10-12 Q loops during the day. It’s a bit tiring, but I’ll do it for about one week more until I decide to cut back.

I did try running terminus build ~18 times a dy in the beginning, but after 2 days I was drained and I needed to take a 2 day pause just to recoup.

Here’s my full build:
Emperor Q Core
Khan ST4 Q Core
Primal Q Core
Sex Mastery XQ Core
Lion IV
Power Unleashed
Rogue
Carpe Diem Ascended
Total Nonchalance
Invincible Presence
Natural Winner
Extreme Exercise Motivation
Joie de Vivre
Iron Frame
Panther
Productivity Unleashed
Blue Skies
Sanguine
Deep Sleep
Gratitude Embodiment

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Nice, you got the new custom :slight_smile:
what were the effects of your custom in Terminus and/or Q…
does it match up with the experience of the stack individual breakdown before?
Also why Primal instead of PS if I may ask?

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Running only the custom, the ratio changed to 1:1:1:1 for KhanSt4:EQ:Primal:SM. I am amazed again how powerful Emperor is,right now it’s the one driving. I’m running 2 loops of Terminus during the night and plan to increase it with one loop every week.

I have to admit that so far, the experience is quite different from running the previous stack, with individual programs. There is the higher drive from Emperor, but also I feel the additional modules kicking in: sanguine, gratitude, joie de vivre, carpe diem.

So far, I feel that I’m not driven/overwhelmed anymore in a direction (either superfocused or sexual) and whatever I choose on the moment is the perfect choice. I have days when I’m all about the pussy, and days when I spend hours focusing on business. It’s still fresh and new, so it’s kind of difficult to gauge the effects.

I did decide to start GLL approach anxiety program starting next week: https://www.goodlookingloser.com/anxiety/program. I do think this is Khan kicking in. with the confidence of Emperor. It’s an awesome feeling.

Why Primal? I absolutely loved it in the past, always worked for me and I think it’s the only subliminal to tamper down Emperor in a 1:1 ratio. Iron Throne was close, but not quite up there. I do think it was the right choice: even with Primal/Khan ST4/ SM, Emperor is still driving the show. It’s impressive.

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Emperor and Alchemist seem to be organizing/unifying programs, that create cohesion while still being the spearhead. In Emperor case it’s defining the man you want to be and how you want/to live and succeed on your own terms and Alchemist is driving energy, will and purpose towards expanded goals inclusive of, but greater than current life.

Anyway awesome to hear it’s going well and that you have even more conscious intention and flexibility with the new stack.

I just purchased Todd V HighValueMan program, I have not gotten a product related to game in over 10 years but something in my stack seemed to lead me there.

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Man, if you like Emperor, please take a look at DavidX materials for seduction. It’s direct, super simple, honesty based and works. I know you didn’t ask, but I can’t help myself haha.

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Always happy for suggestions
I know David X, he is an OG natural.
I listened to use stuff inside some other programs years ago.

I remember him saying getting laid as is easy for him as taking a sip of water when your thirsty lol

Does he have something you recommend or just youtube stuff?

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Hmm… I honestly don’t want to take a break. I had to force myself to take a break this weekend, perhaps I can just do sundays off. :thinking:

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Long overdue update, after about 7 months of combining Emperor and Khan in some form(either q versions or part of a custom) with some primal/sm aside.

Overall I’ve run emperor(since V1 heh) in some form for about 2 years and Khan for about 1 year.

KHAN + Emperor thoughts
Women: I think this part was driven by Khan, based on my previous experiences with Emperor and Khan

  • Ruthless bastrard. I kicked every woman out of my life at the first sign of playing games or looking uninterested. No interest in getting to finding out about her strugles, issues bla bla. My agenda is all that matters. I think this is a great mindset for creating a group of short term fuckbuddies
  • Loved by my main girlfriend. I stand by my previous review of Khan: whenever I run Khan, something happens with her. She’s telling me repeatedly how in love is with me, how good I look. This is defnintely not happening when I run Emperor alone
  • Dominant in bed. No need to say more, but with this combo I did start to get into bondage stuff quite alot. Without Khan I do get some “I don’t do this [yet]”, but never with Khan
  • Overall it was a good experience, I do prefer the Khan alone one

Drive: washout between Emperor and Khan

  • this was really confusing and it’s a bit hard to pin-point it. it was like “yeah, let’s do it” and “we’ll do it later, that’s fine”
  • not a good experience, I prefer Emperor alone

Productvity: same as drive. a good ol’ mediocre “meh”

Physical: driven by Emperor

  • sometimes struggled to do my daily workout, but did it anyway
  • sometimes I broke my fasting regime (never with Emperor alone)
  • ok experience overall, I prefer Emperor alone

Communication: washout between Emperor and Khan

  • overall good, energetic communication style. Not the enthusiastic, passionate Emperor style, nor the laid back, unphased, extremely rational Kahn style
  • I ABSOLUTELY WANT THE KHAN WAY, FROM MY POV THAT IS THE BIGGEST GAIN I GET FROM KAHN: NOTHING GETS TO ME AND IT’S REFLECTED IN HOW I COMMUNICATE, HOW I REACT, EVERYTHING

Joyfulness: I think this is hard to evaluate just because I added Sanguine to my custom. Everything became more sunny, the more Khan alone I was running beside the custom including emperor

Conclusion: I’m going to avoid combining big titles like Emperor, Khan, Stark. I think it’s fine to use Primal, SM, PSIT in addition to those 3, but never a combination between them. Saint always suggested not to combine those 3, and I think my experience reflects that.
When combining Khan and Emperor I imagined that I’m gonna get the highlights of both. In reality I got mediocre results, when looking separately what Emperor and Khan are supposed to do: no super drive, no super chill state

Following official recommendations, I will run Khan exclusively, but with Commander on the side: 1 month of ST1 and then ST4 all the way. Maybe Emperor Fitness at some point…

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I’m stopping ST1 today and give myself a treat for the rest of the year: my one and only, the subliminal love of my life: primal with a pinch of ST1 to wrap up the year.

It was a rougher experience with ST1 than the first time I’ve run it. Truth be told, the first time I was on the beaches of Sicily, so for sure that helped haha.
First week I got a bit depressed, second one I was antsy. I started a fight with my main gf, with no good reason. We (almost) never fight, so it was super weird for me. Third week was better, things started to settle and I’m back to my old self.

I’ll give myself one week to decide the next 3 months stack: either full on Khan ST4 or Stark + Primal. Commander on the side for either. I loved the freedom feeling I got from running Stark and Primal, bit I missed the dedication for eating healthy and working out on a daily basis. Maybe Commander can do the trick, I’ll think about it…

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How long are you running khan stage 1?

3 weeks now. Previously I did run it for a full month exclusively.

@SaintSovereign I know this was asked in the past and you paged @Fire as well, yet we did not got an answer. Is ST1 part of ST4 with the Q version of Khan? It’s pretty important when deciding stacks…

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Thanks for the update @lovage

Commander will likely support in the ongoing discipline based goals.

what’s your experience like on primal that has you love it so much?

How does it compare with Khan Stage 4?