Acension - A skeptics journey

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#1

I’m new to subliminals, and honestly, not quite sure I buy into their effectiveness. However, I’m a big believer in the unconscious mind being able to assist us or hurt us, based upon our beliefs and expectations. I’ve studied and worked with self hypnosis, creative visualization, affirmations, etc in the past. I’ve had a lot of good results with these, but I find myself having a lot less time now, so I’m looking for something to help me when I don’t have the extra time (or energy) to devote to these other activities.

In my life, I’ve observed that oftentimes starting is the hardest step; motivation to actually get started is what it’s all about. I’ve been through some of Tony Robbins’ programs, and I believe highly that having leverage over yourself is a really good way to get this motivation…but getting leverage is, in itself, an enormous time commitment, and I’ve found myself even not desiring to do this, even though I know it will help me.

So, I’ve turned to subliminals, which I’ve found quite by coincidence; someone else mentioned the subliminalclub.com website on another message board I was reading, and I got interested in the idea.

I read about this forum in the information page after purchasing Ascension, so I figured I would track my results, so that I could gauge the effectiveness of the program, and let evidence speak for itself.

I chose Ascension because I grew up with an over-controlling mother, and still think that this limits me in my ability to believe in myself more fully and have confidence in myself. Some of my goals are to not fear new opportunities, but rather become excited by them; become more comfortable interacting with women, and feel better about my life in general (focus on the positive more).

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Hello all, have not had much experience with subliminals
#2

Okay, so I’ve just got done reading through all the introductory pdfs included with Ascension, and I have to say that I am impressed with the level of explanation about how subliminals work, the links to scientific studies, the links to actual studies performed on Subliminal Club’s subliminals specifically, and other things.

I can tell, by reading the pdfs, that the person who created them is very intelligent, and honestly wants the customer to understand everything, and not just try stuff and hope they figure it out.

So, I figured I’d create this post as a baseline of sorts. I’ve not listened to the asc. sub yet, so I’ll just journal a bit about me at this point, so that I can compare this later on with results I see, as I keep listening to the asc. sub (following the listening pattern for 1 ZP sub) during the initial 21 days.

So, at the moment, life has been very difficult for me; I feel like I’m in a rut that I cannot escape from the majority of the time. I have an ex-wife that sincerely hates me (I don’t know why), a daughter that is being sexualized by my ex (maybe abused as well), court system that takes FOREVER to get anything done, living with my mother in order to have a live-in babysitter for my daughter (so I could get more custody), my mother is severely narcissistic (I believe, she’s never been diagnosed - but other people say similar things when they really get to know her) - so that creates problems between me & her and my daughter and her.

To be honest, a lot of times I feel like throwing in the towel and just saying fuck it, I’m done, I don’t know what else to do to fix this situation. Normally, I’m a pretty positive type of guy, but when I have to work OT at work, constantly have to be a mediator at home, have to fight for the most basic things (kitchen times, laundry times, etc, etc), dealing with court issues, dealing with lies from my ex about me (been investigated by C&Y 3 times now because of false claims), it just goes on and on.

So, this is my baseline. I feel pretty shitty about my life at the moment, and don’t have a lot of motivation to change it. I know what will work to change things, but I find myself not doing them, because I’ve lost hope of anything really changing at all. I was going to move out of my mother’s house, but then the inflation spike hit, and rent charges are up like 25% here, and I just simply can’t afford it, not to get a 2 bedroom apt (which I need to do as my daughter would be living with me 50% of the time).

So, I know I probably sound like I’m focusing on the negative a lot, and this is true. So, I definitely have, as a goal, to focus more on the good stuff going on…right now, I can’t even think of any to be honest.

I love working out, but every time I start it, it seems like life gets in the way, and I have to postpone my workouts. As it stands, I’m getting up at 2 am every day in order to leave for work by 5:30 am. I’m trying to get my full 7-8 hrs of sleep in, but it’s hard when my daughter is here, because when she first comes from my ex’s place, she is belligerent, rude, disobedient, and angry. So, I have to stay up with her, because she’s not in a mental or emotional place to take care of her most basic needs (my daughter is 10 btw).

I’m not dating right now; I was dating previously, my mom started really fucking things up, and none of the women I was seeing really were interested in dating a guy who’s living with his mom (I can completely understand this).

I started watching porn as a way to cope, give me a release, but half the time I feel like a loser whose life is going nowhere, and don’t see a way out. I am borderline addicted to it at this point, and know I need to meet women again, and get a social life again, but again I feel this is hopeless, as I’m living with my mother still, and don’t see a way out of this, without a significant boost in income.

Okay, this is a good start I think. The only way to go from here is up.

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#3

You have a very tough situation.
I concur with Ascension, it is a very good start. Or maybe Godlike Masculinity.

But your life is very pessimistic right now so I would suggest alongside Ascension or GLM run also one of the Chosen line which is for more positive views in life in general and also people will you treat you better what you obviously very need right now.

Either Chosen or Chosen: The Way of Nature. Probably the latter one.

Try to read some CWON (Chosen: The Way of Nature:) or Chosen journals and you will see that people have treated them better, and kinder with much love.

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#4

While I have never ran any of the Chosen titles I do agree that it could benefit you in your current situation especially with the positivity. God Like Masculinity is a really good choice as well, I noticed results after a few listening days

However since you have Ascension I would just stick with Ascension for now. Plus Ascension is a wonderful foundation sub and a good sub to fall back on for a few cycles from time to time as I have it in my stack. It makes a huge difference in how I take action and realize my own internal power, which are all in positive ways, there was pain and anger along the way but there was also a hell of a lot of growth as well.

Also you came just in time for the ZP Refresh update and Ascension already has it, and it hits a lot faster and smoother. It seems like you have a lot of resolve right now in your life, Ascension will definitely help you utilize it and help you grow in a positive manner.

BTW, Welcome to SubClub

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#5

Yikes, @aklimatize , that is a lot of angry females in your life and I guarantee that your mother set the blueprint, she’s emasculated you and hence you feel powerless to change your life.

Ascension is the one, just get to a place where you can feel some pride in your self, which will motivate you to improve your lot in life. You also need to start laying down the law to all women involved - they don’t get to treat you like shit anymore. Godlike Masculinity may help.

Keep journalling and realise that you’re on the marathon to greatness and it will take time.

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#6

Hello there, @aklimatize. Man, that is a bad situation you have there but it can be turned around.

You seem like a man who thinks things through and who is willing to change your circumstances.

These are important traits to have if you want to change your life and along with Ascension, am sure you will get there.

Let us know if you want any advice or help with regard to the subliminals.

SaintSovereign and Fire are the co-creators of SubliminalClub. @RVconsultant and @DarkPhilosopher are the admins.

Tagging the co-creators might result in answers from them but you have to understand if they don’t respond since they will be busy with all the work they do. The admins and other users on the forum are more easily accessible if you want any queries answered. So please feel free to tag us.

Of course, there is also the service of submitting a ticket to the Support.

We are here for you bro. Welcome to SubClub.

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#7

Welcome to subclub @aklimatize and dont worry it can only be better. Try to think positive again beside the whole bad stuff you are confronted with and the subs will help to change the direction of your lifepath. And be patient there is no magic pill in the subs. Change is sometimes subtle and slow but steady. Good luck on your journey and feel free to ask any question.

This is the right attitude :point_up:

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#8

Lineer2,
Thanks, I’ll look into the Chosen line and read some journals. I agree with you, I definitely need to focus more on the positive.

Uber_Elysium,
Thanks for you reply. I have decided I am going to stick with Ascension for the 21 days, and see if I notice any changes. I’m still a skeptic with the whole subliminal thing, but I have an open mind. Do you have a journal on here?

Michel,
You are exactly right about the angry females. I should say that I am not emasculated, but I can understand how you came to that conclusion from what I wrote. I believe I was, previously, but I’ve been working on myself for years now, studying about the unconscious mind, and trying my best to face shit. I’ve been setting boundaries and feel pretty secure in who I am myself - it’s the circumstances in my life that keep on repeating that are the problem…and I know that I am creating them, probably unconsciously, and that is why I have turned to subs, to help me eliminate stuff I may not even be aware of being there. Thanks for your reply.

Lion,
Yes, I am very analytical (which can be good & bad I’ve found - sometimes I OVERTHINK everything, instead of just acting), and I definitely want to change my circumstances, and I’m not afraid of taking action - I just want the action to be inspired, instead of seemingly groping in the dark for the right thing to do. Thanks for your knowledge about the creators and admins on here. I saw your name under one of the custom subs here, do you have a journal here?

Thanks to everyone; you’ve all been very supportive and friendly, and I’m actually quite shocked. I’m glad I found this community, and looking forward to getting to know you all.

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#9

Thanks @FireDragon I’m definitely willing to put the work in. There’s a difference between working to do something, and working because you feel inspired to do it. The latter is what I’m looking for. I believe strongly in the unconscious mind always being on your side - even if it seems it’s not. Old programming may create “limiting beliefs” but they were beliefs that helped you at one point in your life, so the beliefs are not really limiting or negative, just outdated. If I can get rid of outdated beliefs about myself, the world, other people, etc it will be a step in the right direction I feel.

Thanks!

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#10

All the best :pray:

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#11

Okay, so I listened to 2 loops of Ascension ZP last night. I’m still shocked that I don’t have to listen to subs for 8-10 hrs like I had heard from other places. Today is my rest day, and I find myself a lot more motivated to do the usual stuff - breakfast, cleaning, finances, etc. I feel antsy like I want to do more, but be patient at the same time.

I’ve used mindfulness in the past, so that’s what I’m going to do today, whenever I have any feelings come up. I know that benign attention placed upon something helps to transform it into positive energy.

“What we resist persists, what we accept, we gain the power to transform” - Igor Ledochowski

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#12

Fantastic to hear, then you’ve come to the right place! Subliminals are the perfect tool to get inside and correct the things that are creating your current circumstances - and there’s none better than SubClub.

You already know it’s an inside job, so when changes on the outside happens, that’s confirmation that you’ve cracked the code.

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#13

Note: in order to tag someone, add the @ symbol before their name.

Eg- @aklimatize

You can find my current journal here:

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#14

You got some change ahead, and fortunately here are good tool, and support, to help you.

I would encourage you to run 1 loop 3 times a week of Ascension, such as M W F.

Also what are your thoughts on Elixir, Rebirth, and/or Sanguine?

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No problem mi amigo! Also being a skeptic is going to be understandable, I will be honest I was too in the beginning, but I had a very open mind as well. I didnt label things as coincidences or anything like that, I accepted the work the sub was putting in for me. So that is very good that you do have an open mind.21 days is a good start and possibly another cycle (21 days) would be beneficial as well before you add another sub, but that is ultimately your decision. As I said yesterday Chosen is a good sub for the positivity but another sub you could look into is Rebirth. I would also stick to no more than two subs for a while mainly to help prevent “Shiny Object Syndrome” and to give Ascension more room to work, but thats just my opinion.

I do have a journal, it shows a lot of internal growth and basically is the end of a dark period in my life to putting in the work for a better future. IMO since I have done a lot of inner growth, the journal just started to sound better haha. I will also point out that my journal does have me realizing about taking action as well in there near the end.

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#16

@aklimatize Welcome to Sub Club be patient ,read a lot of journals and most of all enjoy your journey :+1:

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#17

So, yesterday was a rest day for me, and the whole day, I just kind of felt restless. Today, I listened to Ascension for 2 loops, back to back. I turned off the audio focus setting on my music player on my phone, and played a relaxing playlist I’ve created on Spotify, while the loops were going. I like this way of listening to the loops, and I know that this is encouraged, from reading the pdfs that came with Ascension.

This morning, I feel at peace; I don’t feel restless any longer, but almost like I have this kinetic energy, ready to be released. My mind seems to be thinking clearer, as I’m starting to knock out things with a To-Do list once again (something I used to always use, but stopped due to not being able to get things done recently).

When I was doing self hypnosis, I used to love the feeling I got after a session; Igor Ledochowski (whose program I was following) labeled it a “mind massage”, and I really liked that way of looking at it.

I feel a similar “mind massage” while listening to the music and Ascension loops as well. I’m pretty certain this same feeling of “flow” will follow me throughout the day.

If I could put the idea of “mind massage” into more coherent words, I’d say it’s an effortless relaxation into the flow of a direction you’ve chosen. It’s like if you were trying to push a big rock uphill, you’d be straining and stressing to do it…and then you realize you could build a simple machine to get the job done…and you have to put a lot less effort into doing what you were trying to accomplish, and you can relax the over-exertion, because you see things just working, and without all the strain and stress - it’s a relaxing into that sort of mindset - that’s what the “mind massage” refers to - just letting go of all the exertion and effort, and letting the mind do what it does without your conscious stressing getting in the way.

Another way of looking at it is in the terms of mindfulness. Mindfulness teaches us to not CRITICALLY judge anything - if anything, we are judging things, but in a benign way “this is good”, “that is okay”, etc. So, when you place a sort of benign (or friendly) attention upon something, it release that thing to just be as it is, and you stop having to use so much brain (energy) power to keep the “negative” feelings from hurting you. Anyway, that may be a bit technical, but hopefully you get the idea; if anyone is interested in this, feel free to ask me, and I’ll tell you more.

Looking forward to my day; got a lot to do to catch up on some stuff I’ve been letting myself slack on lately. Today, I’m going to start knocking things out again, and get my life back on track.

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#18

Thanks @Lion - I did actually figure this out, but unfortunately, not before I wrote the reply to you all the first time. I was looking for a quote button, and didn’t see one, but then I selected text to be able to copy it into the box, and was given the option to add a quote. Similarly, I also saw that others were putting an @ symbol next to my username, so I did that, and a context menu popped up, and I saw how it worked.

One thing I’d highly suggest for new people is to send them a welcome message with this info in it - I got the info, but only after I’d performed the actions (I got the badges), I appreciate the badges, but having the info beforehand would have been useful.

Anyway, thanks!

Thanks, I am going to look at it today.

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#19

Yes @Uber_Elysium I completely agree with you; I have learned (from other experiences with working with my unconscious mind) that oftentimes it can seem like a coincidence, but that is the power of journaling - so that we can almost do a before / after snapshot of what our life was like, and what it’s like now.

Thank you, I was thinking along the same lines; I read in the pdfs that the more subs you add, the more time it will take to see results…being as I’m evaluating the effectiveness of subs in general, I’ve decided to stick to one for the time being (Ascension) and see where that takes me. It’s your opinion, but your opinion, which is backed up by your personal experience, so I highly appreciate it.

Awesome man; if the subs do actually work, the more honest we can be on here will only help others to see the dramatic differences between what life was like before and what it’s like now. I’m going to look at your journal, I appreciate the link.

Thanks @TheSunlightCaller - I am going to be reading a lot of journals, and journaling myself, so that I can track my progress. Thanks for your warm welcome

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#20

Hi @RVconsultant, I am currently following the listening pattern for one ZP sub, which from what I understand is: Day 1, Day 3, and Day 5 (with the days in between these as rest days).

Also, I’m not wanting to add in additional subs at the moment, as I’m wanting to evaluate the effectiveness of them first - to decide if I want to invest more time, money, and energy into this area in the future. I read in the pdfs that came along with Ascension that it would take more time to see results if you add in more subs, so I’m going to stick to one for now.

To answer your question, I had bookmarked all of those you mentioned: Elixir, Rebirth, and Sanguine, along with Godlike Masculinity and a few others. I chose Ascension, because somewhere it mentioned that it was a good foundation for additional subs in the future, and I wanted to work on my positivity and getting my life more under control again.

Thanks for your reply; if you have any suggestions for me, I’d love to hear them.

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