A Northern Power (Not Nice)

In terms of a stack, what would you want to accomplish? (examples: healing, self-esteem, restoring faith in relationships, develop trust in oneself, protection from manipulation, etc.)

In terms of emotionally immature parents (such as those that might have narcissism), books by Lindsay Gibson are most insightful.

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The big ones appears to be to develop a strong masculine base, to not be so fawning (people pleaser, agreeable) as to forget to look after myself and to learn to love myself. But the ones you mentioned (assertiveness, manipulation proof) are very desirable to have.

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Fully agree. If it works for you, just continue.
For building the base the New Emperor is doing a great job for me.
LBfH seems like another great choice to add.
Something else that comes to my mind because of the ā€œstopped worrying about the gamesā€, PCC if the New Emperor is not enough for that.

But I would keep the stack for now and see after 1-2 cycles what is missing.

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What about a custom?

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To elaborate, as examples:

Manipulus
The Boundary

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@AnswerGroup @James @Skadoosh @ksub @subliminalguy a massive thanks for your replies, looks like LBFH and Emperor is the optimal stack plus therapy.

@RVconsultant maybe Last Stand as a module also?

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Total Breakdown has helped me alot with that. It“s way harder than LBFH, but so worth it.

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I have an idea. I believe that a custom is to be taken seriously. Lots of thought and planning.

Let’s pretend you were going to make a custom. What would you want to put in it?

Please list your objectives and the modules, and let’s have a look-see.

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I would probably go with:

Ascension/Emperor core
PCC

with:
The Boundary
Last Stand
Iron Frame
Manipulus
I AM
Call of Honour
Ares
Negative People Remover
Negativity Limiter

Oddly enough I do have this custom lurking somewhere…

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I’m wondering if I AM will hinder or mildly clash with the NSE scripting since it’s the old healing scripting.

I only wonder since I did the Rebirth ZP2 with the New Emperor, which has NSE. It wasn’t very comfortable, and I’m wondering if anyone else has had such experiences when mixing non-updated subs with updated subs.

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If you constantly feel regret for what’s happened in the past or not standing up for yourself Path of Forgiveness is also really good. Just a suggestion. I think inevitably with those modules in your custom they’ll bring up memories of past events to work through. I put it in my custom to stop the negative spiral I get into sometimes when I felt like I should have done something differently in the past.

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@subliminalguy when AM gets the update I guess the NSE will click into place with the rest of the modules.

@fractal_explorer yknow that might well be a good module to include, even though I’m quite ready to let it go and forgive people who are repentant.

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You probably already know this.

The thing is forgiveness is not for them it’s for you. You’re setting yourself free. It also doesn’t mean you have to let them back into your life, that’s your choice.

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Considering the amount of time I’ve talked about my past it is becoming even more irrelevant the more time has passed. But the people involved are still living and still playing mind games.

@RVconsultant Elements of a custom:

Cores: PCC, Emperor, LBFH

  • Strong self pride and confidence (I AM, Pride Unbroken)
  • forgiveness + emotional manipulation protection (Manipulus/Path of Forgiveness)
  • Assertiveness/ability to check a MF (The Boundary)
  • Masculinity boost (alpha core)
  • Trauma bond healing and Self Love Deficit Disorder (LBFH)
  • Gaslighting defense (Iron Frame)
  • Better relationship with fear (Fearsome)
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To add to that:

  • A very warm feeling of self regard and self care, like I matter for the first time. It’s a great feeling to have - I wonder why the world doesn’t have this.

  • Great relationships with colleagues, I speak my mind without being antagonistic or looking for slights.

  • My voice is clearer and seems to carry more weight, I only have to tell somebody once and they understand. Before the words and energy never matched, leaving the other person doubtful/confused/wanting to test me.

  • Again if a customer wants to play, I’ll play. Come with the attitude and the safety catch is off - I’ll defend myself with the power of the Emperor - you’ll get it straight, no sugarcoating.


Stack: New Emperor/ New LBFH

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Looks solid.

HOWEVER, I’m wondering if there might be something to keep vigilant for.

Notice this:

This implies there is a New Status Experience. I do not know if such a thing exists, but it appears to be implied.

I’m not suggesting you get WANTED Black. Rather perhaps let’s be wondering if there might be a New Status Experience core, or perhaps some of your titles might get updated with something akin to New Status Experience.

I’m thinking such a core might be helpful regarding your objectives.

@SaintSovereign @Fire

PS What about Code of Loyalty?

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Quite frankly the new Rebirth may be all I needed @RVconsultant…

Am I the same person now after one spin of Phoenix? Doubt it. Things like:

  • Singing at work (wtf, are you happy or something?)
  • Not taking on additional work tasks if I can avoid it to - others can do it
  • Accepting I work in an unconventional way and that’s fine
  • Being a bit more relaxed on the job

I also managed to sell a loyalty card to a testy female customer. She entered the shop trying to tell me about my own products whilst sounding convincing and trying to undermine me with sneak disses. All I did was repeat myself and managed to hold firm, pulled her into my frame and even sell sold her on the shop loyalty card, whilst wasting her time :laughing: (was it a female shit test?)

Some of these results are LBFH influenced but Phoenix is clearing the way quite quickly and effectively.

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:metal:

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Quite a few things I believe that don’t make sense have been unearthed:

  • Women have to lead me and determining my own path. Why?
  • Succeeding means I’m separate from my family
  • You deserve an entry level job
  • Do not try to succeed because it will end up failing
  • Time is running out, must be much further in life.
  • They all hate me.
  • I have to do the others’ work because I am responsible for them.

Phoenix is a little disorientating because those beliefs served as markers on how life worksā„¢. They’ve been dissolved and replaced with no great harsh recon at all. Very impressive stuff.

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God, your words resonated with me heavily Michel. From feeling unworthy into believing old standards MUST still be used. To even blaming ourselves for people’s sick demands and abuses.

I actually went and finished everything to get my commercial driver license (CDL) permit today. I’ll get a $4-5/hour raise just by doing this simple ā€œpaperworkā€. I’ve had this opportunity for at least 7 years. I’ve just not felt worthy of taking it. ā€œNot worthyā€ has hung me back on many, many growth opportunities.

And to let you know where I am now, I actually cried after receiving my permit. I walked out of the building, and tears started rolling down my cheek, in part due to:

That’s been a major fear of mine, and I was thinking of that while crying. Those same childhood fears of mine are still hanging on too. In my family, there’s always been reluctance and resistance to major growth because ā€œwe don’t do things like thatā€. I’ve never actually heard those words from my siblings, but we’re all living it out.

I’ve got only one ā€œproblemā€ right now. I’m on day 1 of a 5 day washout. Like you, I love how I can easily see such major holdups so easily with a single loop of Phoenix.

Thanks (sincerely) for posting your update. I get it.

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