A Northern Power (Not Nice)

I’m wondering if I AM will hinder or mildly clash with the NSE scripting since it’s the old healing scripting.

I only wonder since I did the Rebirth ZP2 with the New Emperor, which has NSE. It wasn’t very comfortable, and I’m wondering if anyone else has had such experiences when mixing non-updated subs with updated subs.

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If you constantly feel regret for what’s happened in the past or not standing up for yourself Path of Forgiveness is also really good. Just a suggestion. I think inevitably with those modules in your custom they’ll bring up memories of past events to work through. I put it in my custom to stop the negative spiral I get into sometimes when I felt like I should have done something differently in the past.

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@subliminalguy when AM gets the update I guess the NSE will click into place with the rest of the modules.

@fractal_explorer yknow that might well be a good module to include, even though I’m quite ready to let it go and forgive people who are repentant.

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You probably already know this.

The thing is forgiveness is not for them it’s for you. You’re setting yourself free. It also doesn’t mean you have to let them back into your life, that’s your choice.

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Considering the amount of time I’ve talked about my past it is becoming even more irrelevant the more time has passed. But the people involved are still living and still playing mind games.

@RVconsultant Elements of a custom:

Cores: PCC, Emperor, LBFH

  • Strong self pride and confidence (I AM, Pride Unbroken)
  • forgiveness + emotional manipulation protection (Manipulus/Path of Forgiveness)
  • Assertiveness/ability to check a MF (The Boundary)
  • Masculinity boost (alpha core)
  • Trauma bond healing and Self Love Deficit Disorder (LBFH)
  • Gaslighting defense (Iron Frame)
  • Better relationship with fear (Fearsome)
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To add to that:

  • A very warm feeling of self regard and self care, like I matter for the first time. It’s a great feeling to have - I wonder why the world doesn’t have this.

  • Great relationships with colleagues, I speak my mind without being antagonistic or looking for slights.

  • My voice is clearer and seems to carry more weight, I only have to tell somebody once and they understand. Before the words and energy never matched, leaving the other person doubtful/confused/wanting to test me.

  • Again if a customer wants to play, I’ll play. Come with the attitude and the safety catch is off - I’ll defend myself with the power of the Emperor - you’ll get it straight, no sugarcoating.


Stack: New Emperor/ New LBFH

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Looks solid.

HOWEVER, I’m wondering if there might be something to keep vigilant for.

Notice this:

This implies there is a New Status Experience. I do not know if such a thing exists, but it appears to be implied.

I’m not suggesting you get WANTED Black. Rather perhaps let’s be wondering if there might be a New Status Experience core, or perhaps some of your titles might get updated with something akin to New Status Experience.

I’m thinking such a core might be helpful regarding your objectives.

@SaintSovereign @Fire

PS What about Code of Loyalty?

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Quite frankly the new Rebirth may be all I needed @RVconsultant

Am I the same person now after one spin of Phoenix? Doubt it. Things like:

  • Singing at work (wtf, are you happy or something?)
  • Not taking on additional work tasks if I can avoid it to - others can do it
  • Accepting I work in an unconventional way and that’s fine
  • Being a bit more relaxed on the job

I also managed to sell a loyalty card to a testy female customer. She entered the shop trying to tell me about my own products whilst sounding convincing and trying to undermine me with sneak disses. All I did was repeat myself and managed to hold firm, pulled her into my frame and even sell sold her on the shop loyalty card, whilst wasting her time :laughing: (was it a female shit test?)

Some of these results are LBFH influenced but Phoenix is clearing the way quite quickly and effectively.

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:metal:

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Quite a few things I believe that don’t make sense have been unearthed:

  • Women have to lead me and determining my own path. Why?
  • Succeeding means I’m separate from my family
  • You deserve an entry level job
  • Do not try to succeed because it will end up failing
  • Time is running out, must be much further in life.
  • They all hate me.
  • I have to do the others’ work because I am responsible for them.

Phoenix is a little disorientating because those beliefs served as markers on how life works™. They’ve been dissolved and replaced with no great harsh recon at all. Very impressive stuff.

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God, your words resonated with me heavily Michel. From feeling unworthy into believing old standards MUST still be used. To even blaming ourselves for people’s sick demands and abuses.

I actually went and finished everything to get my commercial driver license (CDL) permit today. I’ll get a $4-5/hour raise just by doing this simple “paperwork”. I’ve had this opportunity for at least 7 years. I’ve just not felt worthy of taking it. “Not worthy” has hung me back on many, many growth opportunities.

And to let you know where I am now, I actually cried after receiving my permit. I walked out of the building, and tears started rolling down my cheek, in part due to:

That’s been a major fear of mine, and I was thinking of that while crying. Those same childhood fears of mine are still hanging on too. In my family, there’s always been reluctance and resistance to major growth because “we don’t do things like that”. I’ve never actually heard those words from my siblings, but we’re all living it out.

I’ve got only one “problem” right now. I’m on day 1 of a 5 day washout. Like you, I love how I can easily see such major holdups so easily with a single loop of Phoenix.

Thanks (sincerely) for posting your update. I get it.

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This is where Subliminal Club finally excels at their game… Phoenix

I can’t return to who I was anymore, lots of self sabotaging behaviours at work and at home where it underlined my low self esteem. They’re gone for good. A lot of the brakes I put on myself because of my abuse are starting to unravel.

  • Success means I hurt my mother
  • Going for what I want directly is rude and hurtful
  • Having peace at work and at home is not allowed
  • To be loved is an anathema

I’ve also not ate chocolate or tons of sugar in a week because I’m not “eating” away my problems. In fact I have trouble finishing my meals now. I don’t need to be emotionally eat anymore.

Releasing involves sneezing and yawning, then I feel a rush of cold energy filling the vacant space. It’s beautiful to witness real, permanent healing.

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I did some yawning today myself. Thanks for explaining what might be going on. I don’t usually yawn much, so I actually remember it (which means–people noticed me yawning).

I literally just yawned. Wasn’t even paying attention…then…I did.

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How’s that feel? Does it just not happen? Or is there like an interception that takes place where you decide not to engage in the harmful behaviors anymore?

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@Fractal_Explorer It just doesn’t happen anymore. Trying to re-engage those behaviours doesn’t work anymore. Thoughts are different on the way that I think “why did I ever do that for the longest time?”

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Sounds awesome. Glad to hear Phoenix is working out for you

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Ascended Phoenix results:

  • Speaking my mind but not in an obnoxious way, just stating my opinions and not looking for agreement.
  • Still catc myself in people pleaser mode especially when called to stand up.
  • Still regress into child mode the second I get scolded by a woman over something - whether that be the partner or a strong woman colleague. That does needs to stop.
  • Do feel like the part that stands up for myself and speaking out gently developing.

On Phoenix

  • Phoenix works very quickly as a healing agent, breaking down everything that I cannot name and place (due to Complex PTSD) It seems to perform a factory reset on my mind to form me into a new person. It’s better than Regeneration and on par with DR: Limit Destroyer.

On Ascension

  • That leaves Ascension to finally work as a program to get me to feel better about myself as an individual. I do sense a growing sense of self respect, self love, confidence and it feels truer and more genuine than before. I feel like I can start to stand tall and proud. That might cause conflict with close ones who like me to stay as a weak male.

On reflection:
Phoenix got me to thinking about the time I spent in the past with female friends and that I willingly accepted a lot of beta male response behaviours and not being strong enough to leave them behind. Now I can look back on them now and tell myself at the time:

its ok, you got through the worst from home, you managed to attract some good looking women, but you weren’t ready - they never loved you, in fact they used you! But that’s ok, I was a weak male in the big wide world, now I’ll shape up, clean up house and get focused on my goals.

I’ve come a long way in two years - from being broke and forced to leave my home city to getting stronger calmer and wealthier. It’s all good.

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So it seems I’ve slid into another bad relationship and I don’t feel great about it. I’ve done it again - another carbon copy bad relationship.

Just got wind of my work boss talking shit about me - I’ve said no and she’s taken it really badly. “No one will ever say no to me again”

My current relationship feels lopsided.

The snide remarks, feeling like I cannot do anything right, whilst trying my damnedest to please her (and not get into arguments). But I feel devalued, gaslit and like a naughty child.

I feel less of a man (and she tells me so).


Paradoxically I’ve never felt better about myself. Phoenix did a lot to destroy my deep fears about being alone and having the courage to go it alone. But having lost my independence I’m striving to get it again. I also need to know and trust my own mind - not be influenced (conned) by others who pretend to have my best interests at heart. (Ascension is helping here).

This is the only place I can vent about this because I don’t have a network I can trust.

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Following on from the previous post, my Phoenix run is unlocking more of the Ascension traits:

  • More solidity and groundedness in mind, not being thrown by others perceptions (it’s going to be wrong anyway)

  • Not giving a fuck what others think about me, full stop.

  • For the first time knowing what I want to do with my life (earn more money, investing in savings, being frugal and creative).

  • Letting the relationship go through ebbs and flows, letting go of controlling the other person. My partner now gets horny quite quickly.

  • Making myself known if shit went down - staring to use boundaries and assertiveness, although rarely having to put anyone in place.

  • Starting to command my co-workers to do stuff and no blowback whatsoever.

  • Life is easier. Not much trauma/bad stuff left to deal with.

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Had an interesting session with my therapist and most of my issue with confidence and assertiveness stems from being afraid of wielding my power, thinking that something catastrophic and tragic will happen. Not sure what but it is a big stumbling block. Imagine wanting to enforce boundaries and being scared to because a tragedy will unfold.

Also I’m getting dissed by the odd miserable fuck customers - usually by ones who have already decided to have an argument beforehand. That got me thinking about Day 18 of the Masterclass

One of the most common symptoms users experience while on an alpha/status subliminal is this sudden rise in disrespect towards them. “I’m supposed to increase my status, not get dissed by people!”

I kept thinking that Ascension wasn’t working because I don’t feel assertive towards these fuckwits and that i still needed ‘healing’. But what was going on is that these are challenges to my increasing status. I can’t see my status in the mirror but others can?

Maybe I need more time on Ascension as I’m not patient? The stuff I’m not noticing is stuff like:

  • Easier life
  • Happier, calmer missus
  • More money
  • Desire to earn more money
  • Enjoying my creative pursuits
  • Better wardrobe
  • More awareness
  • Others generally don’t mess with me

@ksub and others say up to a year on the subs for real change. Let’s see if is stick or twist (or the new Genesis: Ascension comes out)

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