À la limite jouissance - KHAN

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#285

No, good question, but I executed stage two nearly flawlessly… and I had run two cycles of stage one and two cycles of KB ST1 as well. Just not immediately before starting stage two, but that combined with two or three years of house of Medici, and ascended Mogul was more than enough, combined with my natural temperament

Think about this more poetically for a second. Maybe this is the art of war scripting in me… I did drastically change the sub subliminals that I wanted to listen to after art of war

But really how can a man conquer somebody else’s kingdom if he hasn’t established his own. One man cannot slay an army.

How can a man marry the most beautiful queen of the most prosperous kingdom if he is not at least already the Lord of a lesser one?

How can a man conquer anything if he has not conquered himself?

KHAN did a perfect job of viewing the essence of a conqueror in me, but what is a conqueror without a kingdom.

What is a kingdom without a benevolent emperor?

What is an emperor without an empire?

#286

Well said. Since the same sub could theoretically give infinite progress, it could only work with that it already has. It also makes sense that using Art of war, you would view subs as armaments which have a time and place

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#287

I come to this conclusion every time I focus on romance/seduction titles. Dating and women are simply not a rewarding focus if you aren’t where you want to be financially. That said, I think there is still value in running titles like Khan, or Primal, given the right circumstances, but it tends to take a lot of conscious guidance and willpower on those titles to keep your energy going to the right place.

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#288

I think its a matter of direction, intention, and stack.

I ran Emperor for 3 years and found it very beneficial but created so much friction in my life-at least at the time.

Khan is amazing, for quality of life, attraction yes, but the value to me is the ambition, choice of who I become, and worthiness to get there. Friday (no tag because he doesn’t interact here anymore) talked about it being really a self development sub over anything else and I couldn’t agree more.

I have found Khan and every Alpha sub including ASBR reaches a point where I need internal healing to grow OR the results ‘hide’ the pain/immaturity I need to grow from.
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My results have been so strong for my goals these last few years (The way @Jouissance results were strong initially on Khan Stage 2 ) that its hid my immaturities/areas where I needed to grow. Even as much better as my life is, in a way these immaturities still hold me back from my absolute greatness, immaturities/areas I ignored because of my success. I find Khan Stage 1 even just a week helped SOOO much with resetting the stage for Khan Stage 2 and every other sub.

Emperor and Khan are both about ambitioun and creation but Khan is fueled off dominance and sexuality and Emperor off drive, intelligence, absolute focus, and sovereignty. If you can’t wield dominance and sexuality towards work/entrepreneurship Khan it is not the best sub for creation of wealth, work, or Empires. If you can’t temper sovereignty to serve authority for the sake of greater growth or be in a position to be fully independent Emperor won’t work fully (my issue with it previously)

I always wanted to add Khan and failed because off recon, couldn’t calibrate with sales, or couldn’t steer it towards wealth/career/entrepreneurship focus. Now it seems one of the most powerful tools for those things over anything else. Running Stage 1 definitely helped this. I always hit a point where I feel like a boy in an ill fitting suit on Khan, or everything is off, then back to stage 1 before proceeding.

(It’s possible my experience on Emperor would be vastly different now, on ZP and different life stage)

Emperor is certainly more fundamental than Khan in my opinion though

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#289

Emperor has been huge for me in helping me take action on business ideas I’ve always had but was procrastinating with “I’ll start once I have ____”

#290

@Azriel i haven’t had time to fully digest what you said but it gave me a lot to think about

This whole conversation has been really beautiful thank you to everybody who is contributing to this, I’m really appreciating your guys’s insight.

I’m reminded of a comment that I made very early on in this thread that I would never be able to fully express the KHAN objectives until I ran ecstasy of gold

That was the first sign that what I really needed was emperor.

A massive masculinity boost, but with more focussed on wealth than sexuality, but we still developing both sides

Really it’s emperor that will help me unlock all of the KHAN objective… emperor, and the executive

The combination of the two is driving deep change in me

Emperor is like a condensed version of KHAN and ecstasy of gold rolled into one

And the executive is doing an incredible job of healing not just the ADHD, and it’s literally healing the ADHD…

But it’s also healing a lot of the shame that surrounds my life regarding ADHD

I know it’s healing shame because I’m more consciously feeling shame

Today I was catching up on tasks that I previously procrastinated on, and even as I was completing the task, a lot of shame was coming up for the fact that I was in catch up mode instead of ahead…

The first step to healing an emotion is feeling an emotion. Even though it’s not pleasant.

ADHD related stuff is at the root of a lot of the issues that I experienced both financially and sexually. I can be the most attractive person in the world, but going on a third date and getting lost, we’re getting my wallet, being stressed out from a day of procrastinating, and being unable to be present… those are seriously unattractive traits

I’m not proud enough of my ADHD and how that affects my work to be totally honest about it, so I’m sacrificing connection

So yeah… Emperor and the executive are definitely the foundation that I need in order to be able to run KHAN and the ecstasy of gold and fully express all of those objectives

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(Emperor + Job Seeker) & Executive - Jouissance
#291

@Niles i’m thinking you might have the best answer to this

Has anyone ran emperor for a significant period of time and then added in wanted black (or maybe Wanted) as the supplementary seduction subliminal?

I started thinking about the combination upon reflecting about how KHAN and emperor express seduction differently…

KHAN is very sexual and seduction focussed in its mindset… Wanting to approach every hot girl, etc., while emperor is really about building an attractive empire that makes somebody want to be the queen of that kingdom, and who is attracted to you because of the strength of character it took to build that kingdom, on top of the kingdom itself

My point being, on emperor, I’m very seductive, but I never spend time thinking about women. On KHAN I think about women constantly.

Doesn’t want black fit that arche type more of leaning back and letting the women who want to be the queen of your kingdom make their bid?

I’m thinking that wanted black may fit with emperor perfectly as a way to keep the emperor mentality in its pristine purity while manifesting more opportunities.

But is there anyone who’s run that in practice and has insights into the vibe it creates?

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#292

I’ve been testing out ROTNW/PS without Khan and they’re simply not effective.

(EDIT: Not AS effective without Khan as their foundation)

They were boosters that were built off the foundation of Khan.

This conversation has led to a pretty good insight.

If I want seduction results on top of Emperor… if I want to go out to party… attract a girl, go on a date, cold approach, WHATEVER…

Just a 30s microloop of Khan ST2 will be enough to activate more sexuality scripting for 24-72 hours.

(Still untested as of yet but I’m 85% confident in that mechanism, if not the exact timing of loop/effects.)

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#293

I don’t think ive ran them together, if I have it wasn’t for long probably because of density. Seems like they’d go together perfect though once you adjust and can tolerate it. Archetype wise I think lines up well, now that I think about it, I think WB would go well with most titles as it is probably the closest to “passive attraction”.

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#294

Can I ask, would you feel Emperor Executive would lay the same foundation as Emperor?

I am running through TB right now and am approaching the end of the second cycle. It has been more brutal the second cycle compared to the first but it is doing its job.

Wondering whether to move onto St2 or try Emperor/Emperor Executive for a bit


Amazing journal btw, I always enjoy reading the journals of the veterans here
#295

Just to clarify, you’re asking if the executive would lay the foundation for KHAN?

I would say no… Not really… Executive would actually have some benefits that would help KHAN but it would be more supplementary, not foundational. The anti recon module is in the executive, but not emperor, so that might help with KHAN

(Actually I think the anti recon module isn’t in the executive yet, but will be added soon)

Emperor is about holistic, masculinity, and using personal character, drive, resilient, ambition, etc., and especially a new found sense of belief in yourself and a commitment to living up to your ultimate potential to fully accomplishing the maximum that you can accomplish in every category of your life…

The executive, while it also focusses on fully accomplishing the maximum that you can accomplish in every category of your life, does so purely from a mental discipline, executive functioning, organization and prioritization standpoint.

So on paper, no, the executive doesn’t build a foundation for KHAN. There are sexual and masculinity and physical, shifting and dominance and social and manifestation related components that are found in KHAN and in emperor, but not in the executive

But that doesn’t mean the executive isn’t important for KHAN

Conqueror can’t roll out of bed at 9:30 in the morning and deliver a lacklustre speech to his troops because he didn’t prepare the night beforehand

A conqueror can’t be a conqueror if he isn’t consumed by drive and a burning obsession to win that manifest itself as relentless action

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#296

I was asking that yes, thank you for taking the time to explain all of that. Absolutely amazing response :slight_smile:

I’ve got a lot to ponder now on what to do with my next cycle, Khan or deviate slightly to build a better foundation

Thank you very much

#297

I’m at the point where I want to make fixing my body language and movement patterns a TOP priority.

I know this is a Khan thread but I’m just posting it here because it is the most relevant of my title/journals and I know a lot of good people read this :slightly_smiling_face:

If you could pick ANY, what would you pick as a title that would be most effective at this?

WB? LOTS? khan? Emperor? Other?

Not just standing, but also fluidity of movement and confidence with movement

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#298

I think Khan and WB have the most profound results regarding body language patterns in different ways.

Khan projects confidence and authority and sometimes comes across as intimidating at times.

WB has more of a slick swagger to it.

DD:TS has made me more aware of gestures and body language by others and I credit that sub for leading me to this book that is in my cart, haven’t read yet. Some of the reviews look promising.

https://www.amazon.com/Cues-Master-Language-Charismatic-Communication/dp/B097CBT6FB/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=38B3LE8SBADYQ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.y1NIo5ze1pjgojOnygmoqxeVkuoiw18BF6oqfBvf_0TCkSxvnLb8e-_JzPSkaRAQf4om9WvsBQBDkbavYeKoR7g_o1nEQLOwughyvjsr0r3qJCdlE4uPZpE_1QbFjZ_Kio6yMWYLgMZ7USgVgrh4jQGmQ65Z4zrI9wdIa3nP-aXfFScn7JuL66PNV7PFGlqg_5av-ASy1Lq_F2oJnIlrOg.a1FVIjtTOrRj9neqC1Z_xWVlhB0Naj0DrG9dEnHLs88&dib_tag=se&keywords=cues+vanessa+van+edwards&qid=1747044946&sprefix=cues%2Caps%2C168&sr=8-1

And lastly for entertainment

https://youtube.com/shorts/MMrgMrnk8J8?si=yUpTEyka_b3J7Cw0

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#299

Wantedblack is a really incredible sub… It was the booster that I was using before every date that I went on, and it always was part of an incredible stack…

Now that posture is such a priority, and now that I am over my cold, approaching phase, and now that I need it all in one seduction subliminal, it really does seem perfect

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#300

I’d throw Primal into this conversation as well:

  • Cultivate a sexy walk and swagger, exuding raw animal magnetism in every movement, making your physical presence something that captures attention and admiration.
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#301

WB and LOTs to me.

There could be a synergy in my stack, but LOTS completely made me feel like a powerful animal, with body language of status and relaxation.

LOTs had me walking erect with better posture, it focus on perfort form (physique) following perfect function (movement and capactiy)- so even though it’s a ‘looks’ sub it’s based in performance and a mechanically sound body/movement, leads to a mechanically sound physique

Khan and Emperor are great. Emperor is a bit ‘stiffer’ but still great, and maybe if you’re taller and leaner, they’ll help. Khan is mixed with body language. It’s kind of super invincible, untouchable body language that can be off-putting to others but can be consciously guided for more ease.

For posture only, I wouldn’t introduce WB back into your stack if you’re putting a heavy focus on growth in your sexual identity and dating, sure.

Wanted Black is great, but to me, it’s very antithetical to creating new structures and performance. However, once performance structures are in place, it can be very good in the right doses.

What let me reach a breaking point of financial success was putting zero focus on romance or romance subs for 8 months. I spent 3 years trying to balance it all instead of tipping to the extreme to break through. Maybe it can be done differently.

Although to me , I later discovered I wanted romance/seduction subs out of FOMO and validation that I was attractive, not a genuine desire for a relationship or dating.

I imagine @Jouissance, when you had your highest points of financial success, you were not focused on romance or romance subs.

Then, I added ASBR, which had more romance than anything I was running and worked as a middle ground. (Emperor and ASBR are the best middle ground subs for romance to me. )

Now I’m stacking with Khan to re-introduce higher quality in more areas of my life than work income (romance, personal business, travel, purpose etc.)

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#302

I found Khan to be excellent for this, but it was less fluid and had this “beyond your reach” feel for me, till I added E:TWTP to the stack.

What I noticed
  • I’m almost always aware of what I’m communicating, especially through my body language and expressions.
  • Heightened interest in improving my body language.
  • My movements, though not fluid, still feel very moldable. It’s more controllable in the sense that “I decide what I communicate.”
  • Learning and adaptability of body language on the fly.
  • Body language is geared more towards power and influence - rapport, holding attention, leadership etc
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#303

Law 48 and 28 combined- assume formless and decide with boldness.

Probably some Law 6- court attention at all costs.

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#304

At The Top module

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