À la limite jouissance - KHAN

Stack will be Chosen/IC custom + Paragon Sleep for a few weeks till I stabilize into a job.

Will be running tiny loops of Divine Diamond once, maybe twice, a week. 30s to start the exposure.

Then once I have a job I like, I'll reintroduce ST2, and continue from there.

Or maybe ST1 - we’ll see how “friendships with women” goes.

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This is a Khan journal not a Chosen journal so I won’t go into detail but I’ll just say Chosen is doing Chosen things.

I think this is my best attempt at explaining this concept ever.

TL;DR - Don’t stack switch to a sub in the same category, ever.

If you’re running WB and then have the urge to run LoTS - DONT - that desire is just a product of the physical shifting RESULTS you’re getting from WB

If you’re running Khan and want to run a sexual attractant sub on it within the first few weeks - DONT - that is just the RESULT of you getting more sexual attraction and prioritizing it higher in life than you did a few weeks ago.

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  • 3 min Chosen/Ic
  • 5 mins Paragon Sleep

Life without Khan is so boring :zzz:

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Why do you feel you cannot run Khan to achieve the results you are looking for in work?

You mentioned sub hoping

I think it’s the opposite, too,
people feel one sub will not be sufficient for a different area they now care about.

Like they can’t handle the other area on the current sub. Unless they are choosing a different sub as a tool for their immediate goals.

Subs can be a tool, and Khan may not be the best tool for specific areas, but it may support those areas overall more powerfully than any one tool.

To me, Khan can be a tool for state effect or dating; I’ve used it. Its real value is the ongoing growth that comes from running it extensively, I imagine.

I have been running 20 seconds of Khan Stage 2 a week alongside my other 3 subs and found it has enhanced things. I couldn’t go back to life fully without Khan lol

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I absolutely plan on running Khan and Chosen (custom) together.

I just want the IC/Job Seeker scripting to activate as fast as possible, with no heavy scripting slowing it down.

Already got a closing role so will be reintroducing ST1 or 2 or 4 idk yet.

Paragon Sleep is much much much needed at the moment

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Jan 7: Khan ST2 - 30s

@Azriel I decided to live a little and run 4 subs for a short period of time.

Khan, Paragon Sleep, Divine Diamond, Chosen (custom).

It’ll be a 2:1 ratio.

Mon/Wed: Chosen/Pzzz (5-8 mins)
Fri: Khan/DivD (0-3 mins)

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I like that approach. Will have to try it.

I almost got laid today, but turned it down.

And this wasn’t just any girl. I turned down sex with the ONE GIRL who I had said previously that I was willing to break my celibacy with.

“The One” and yet I still turned it down because the dynamic wasn’t right.

context of the girl I didn’t have sex with today

After my breakup I reignited an old “friendship” by eating her out and getting a handjob from her. (Thank you RoTNW!).

After that, she became the one girl I was willing to break celibacy for because we had so many deep and vulnerable conversations about sex, which basically just ended in her telling me she’s down to fulfill every fantasy I’ve ever had, exactly as I want. (And she already was doing that even just during giving me a handjob).

A month later she invites me to her wedding with less than 16 hrs notice.

I’m one of only two guests because it was so last minute, and I meet her now-husband, who i’d never met before, but who picked her up from my house after we hooked up.

But it’s all chill because they’re polyamorous. Lol.

Her wedding was a few days ago, and she and I hung out 1-1 today.

She was pretty clear that she wanted to only focus on her marriage for a while, not flings. To that end, she’d already broken up with her second boyfriend. So - her and I were just “friends” until further notice.

After 4 or 5 hours hanging out, we start cuddling and touching intimately on my bed.

That’s still in the “allowed” zone of boundaries I guess.

Things got progressively more and more sexual. She eventually broke the “no sex” rule by grabbing my hand, putting it inside her pants so that I can finger her, and telling me she wanted to fuck me.

I slowed down, stopped fingering her (after enjoying it for a while), and told her straight up, “hold on I want to talk to you for a second.”

“I definitely wanted to have sex with you, but not if you’re going to feel like it was impulsive and then regret it after. I’d rather not fuck you but still talk to you, then fuck you and not talk to you after.”

Because like I said, us having sex wouldn’t exactly be “cheating” but it would be a bit of breach of trust.

Poly is complicated Lol.

We agreed not to have sex, but, our container stayed fun, intimate, connected, it was a good repair and reset.

All in all, I am just so freaking UNBELIEVABLY happy with the main result I’ve gotten from Stage 2 which has been complete and utter detachment from the need for sex.

I still love sex.

But the NEED for sex, to fix something, or just to feel something, is gone. I am as happy with sex as without sex.

I have raised my standards to only ever even considering the absolute highest caliber and quality of sex possible -

  • only with extremely secure women,
  • only when we have a great connection,
  • only if they’re not expressing any sexual shame or guilt,
  • and only when it’s 100% desired by both parties before, during, & after.
  • and only when I truly genuinely like them so much that I’m satisfied when I spend time with them and sex never happens…

It’s such a better way to live than trying to sleep with girls that only sort of liked me just to boost my ego, or girls who would later cause me major strife from their guilt or sexual shame, or girls who I didn’t really like but just wanted to sleep with.

This. Is. Way. Better.

If I had slept with that girl today, there would have been shame, regret, guilt.

and also…

I probably would have lost her as a friend or at least lost the opportunity to have a transparent relationship with her in the future. I would have caused drama in a new marriage (not cheating drama, because they’re in an open relationship, but still drama, because they both made it clear to each other they weren’t interested in seeing other ppl for a bit).

Only a freaking absolutely high status man turns down sex and is happy about it - I am that high status man.

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You are on a very interesting journey. Running Khan, the most sexual sub known to man (Khan is 1 A, WB 1 B) while on a celibate journey.

I may have some insight as to where your resistance to having sex with this lovely lady comes from.

I strongly believe that poly for men is a one way street. Something about the way we are wired biologically. Michael Sartain talks about it on his show. Aubrey Marcus had 4 women and had his struggles with jealousy. After he met his Vylanna she was enough for him and they’re like a twin flame partnership now.

Having multiple women, yes.
Sharing women with other men, HARD FUCK NO!

I met a few women at a spiritual retreat last fall that I formed great plutonic connections with, including my new hairdresser. Whenever I get a haircut she schedules me with 60-90 min allotment for visiting afterwards. She’s not my type but I love her like a sister and we have great conversations. It is enriching soaking up the feminine energy without the need to fuck them.

I may have to try out ROTNW one day

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Well done Jouissance!! :clap:

Amazingly, Khan is what inspired the celibate journey.

I’m really glad you wrote what you wrote, it was helpful to read, but I do have clarity on the fact that if she wasn’t “cheating” on her partner with me, I would have had sex with her and it would have been amazing.

I said no because I knew it would be good sex followed by emotional shame and guilt. Part of my standards are I only want to have sex with people when the emotions that follow are joy and connection.

If/when we have sex later, I’ll be totally unconcerned by the fact that she’s married. We talk about her partnership and my partnerships with zero jealousy.

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Jan 9
90s - Chosen/IC
50s - Paragon Sleep

One thing I suppressed in my relationship was my deep deep love of Buddhist meditation and meditation retreats.

Now I’m happy that I get to meditate more both at home and in centers without judgement.

And a great Chosen + IC manifestation linked with that, I just found out that a student of Ajahn Chah, one of the most highly regarded Theravadan Buddhist monks in the world, has a monastery a short distance away from my house.

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I should also note that while I say celibacy, really what I mean is just an attitude of extreme restraint and mindfulness towards sex, which is why I have someone I would “break celibacy” for - because it’s not actual celibacy

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True maturity.

Any dream interpreters among us?

had a dream that one of the girls I’m seeing had a massive diarrhea attack in my toilet and got 50% of it on the outside of the toilet.

The whole front of the toilet was covered in brown, and I was there trying to clean it up with tiny hand towels.

EDIT: answer I got

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I guess it means you think she´s full of shit and dealing with her is not not worth the mess

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