30s Microloop Discussion Thread

Recent post, still recommending to listen to 3+ minutes of the program before microlooping, and commenting that recon builds up over time

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@Billions i know for a fact micro loops with wanted works but i fear i may miss specific modules if i micro loop with customs.

I’m pretty sure main titles have modules too, just not from the Q store, but from the script for that subliminal.

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Nah man
I always run full loops of everything haha

What’s the longest amount of time after which it’s no longer considered micro loop?

I’m confused – and maybe it’s just about terminology.

I have always understood “loop” to mean the number of times you listen to one or more FULL TRACKS.

So if I have a playlist of 3 songs and listen to all three, that’s one loop. If I listen to them all again, that’s two loops. But if I listen to just one song or only part of a song, that’s not a loop.

So a “30 second loop”, to me, would mean there’s an audio file that is only 30 seconds long and I’ve done one loop when that sub finishes playing.

But that doesn’t seem to be how you all are using the term because there are no 30 second (or 3 minute) mp3s. The new ones are 15 minutes.

So when you talk about a micro loop of 30 seconds, do you mean just listening to the first 30 seconds of the 15 minute track? Or maybe ANY 30 seconds of the track?

Yes,

1 audio file played is 1 loop regardless of how long you play that file for.

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This.

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Anyone been trying a microloop on wake up and a microloop just before bed?

Feel like letting the script run itself through the night will integrate stronger during sleep and then a loop in the morning will help it run throughout the day

Still a theory thus far but eager to see if anyone else is trying this

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Very funny you mentioned that because I JUST mentioned that, then came to this notification, and your question is what I basically realized about 8 seconds ago.

I learned this from meditation, always do it morning or evening, never afternoon.

For me, I only ever listen to subliminals before bed. Ever. Hard rule.

I really agree it helps the sub process through the night… so by morning time, any recon has passed, and results are there but naturalized

The only exception is 30s microloops in the morning

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You only need to remove the words ‘or more’, and you’ll be using the term in the way it is conventionally applied here.

Generally, in other words, it is reserved for describing one track.

(Of course, on the other hand, ‘loop’ is, in the end, an ordinary English word, and can be used however you want to use it. You can make a loop around one subliminal track, ten subliminal tracks, or a city block. I’m just referring to the way it’s typically used in conversations and instructions here.)

There’s nothing wrong with this, grammatically. It just gets confusing due to the amount of room for multiple interpretations (and misinterpretations).

Anyway,

In general:

A loop is ‘A playthrough of one track’

A micro-loop is ‘A (very small) partial playthrough of one (15-minute) track’

And yes, it’s starting from the beginning (i.e., 0:00).

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Has anyone had success with 30s loops of customs? Perhaps 60s may be needed due to customs having two cores in some cases?

Didn’t Saint say awhile back when recommending 3 min loops, that customs would need 4 or 5 mins due to the amount of information in them including two cores?

It’s been awhile but maybe if you’ve ran full 15 mins of a custom for a long time, 30 secs would work but I would think you wouldn’t even get past the primer with that amount of time, regardless if you’d been listening for awhile. What is to signify one custom from another to your mind if 30 seconds is not long enough to identify the correct memory of said custom?

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You mean just if all songs have the same intro and you don’t listen to more than the intro how would you know which song it is?

On the other side of it worked for people then it works, explanation secondary.

The primer isn’t all stacked in the beginning, it’s interwoven throughout the program.

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Right. I’m still thinking that due to sheer density of a custom that their microloop would be a bit longer than 30s.

Perhaps! I didn’t get the same benefits from a 30s loop of my le/comm custom, compared to LE and Comm separately, so there’s probably truth to that

But since a microloop is meant to be the smallest exposure possible, then maybe a custom isn’t the best for daily microlooping. One minute loops here and there probably wouldn’t hurt, though.

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My theory for a daily micro looping strategy:

Day 1: custom, 5 minutes min and then micro loops of other titles
Day 2: micro loops of other titles
Day 3: same as day 1

Makes sense?

@RVconsultant Any thoughts as to why the 30s loops were awful? I find it really interesting that happened. I would think the opposite would happen with lower exposure.