3 Cycles of Name Embedded "GENESIS" and...no results?

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#1

I’m confused and frustrated. Looking for feedback and advice on best path forward.

So, I just wrapped up a third cycle of a name embedded “GENESIS Core + Productivity Unleashed”. Sounds badass, right? I was so excited.

I started with microloops of 30 seconds every other day, raising the listening time by 30 seconds every third listening day or so. I’ve only listened to the nature sounds version - on high quality headphones with no noise cancelling.

Keeping an offline journal allowed me to write my thoughts and observations unfiltered. Significant changes in behavior, thoughts and revelations, and manifestations however small were all documented.

Out of ALL that time running this sub, I had maybe two days were I thought, “Oh damn, this must be the subliminal. I’m not usually like this”.

But looking back, I see pages and pages of “well, maaaybe it’s the sub”. Results so subtle and unremarkable that it may as well be placebo.

Anyway, sometime around the end of the 2nd cycle, I found the day I reached 4 minutes listening time, I was quite productive. It was GREAT. So, I jumped ahead to 5 minutes the next listening day, and felt Recon - meaning I was off and all my productivity disappeared. I went back down to 4 minutes and didn’t experience any benefits again after that. I ended up the 3rd cycle at listening times of 4:30 min.

So, what results DID I see? I guess I wash the dishes more frequently. I eat more fruit (WTF). Instead of going to bed at a decent time, I get on ChatGPT to work on some Python side project and end up staying up too late trying to solve the problems. BTW, Python coding is NOT my passion or purpose; I simply wanted some scripts to help my with main work on the software I use.

The primary objective of Genesis is lead the listener to discover their purpose. I’m nowhere near knowing what that is after 3 cycles. The other selling point for me was that it was described as a perfect first subliminal title. Sadly, I haven’t seen success with either point. Unless the subliminal has somehow primed my brain for further subliminal exposure? (I’m doing my best to be generous, here)

The productivity unleashed add-on was been almost useless. I’ve accomplished virtually nothing that I didn’t already do while listening to the sub. To put it into perspective, I bought two books on procrastination. That was a few months ago…haven’t read them, yet. :frowning:

I read other threads about Genesis and I wish I could be one of the users that experienced results.

So, I’m disappointed and wondering:

  1. Did I do something wrong?

  2. Should I continue with another cycle?

What do you guys recommend? I’m no longer excited or interested in this sub, and I won’t be investing in name-embedded titles again.

I really need a serious boost of will power and action because I’m planning on moving to another state next Spring and the amount of things I need to do to get my house fixed up, packed up and ready to sell is overwhelming. I have a copy of “Executive Limitless” which I want to start using, in the hopes that I can reap some benefits.

Any thoughts welcome. Thanks for reading.

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#2

I think you’re just impatient right now, a lot of people listen to these programs thinking they’re going to get laid with every girl alive in (set a cycle limit) here and then a few cycles there and I’ll get my million dollar business but due to the way ZP works you’re BETTER OFF listening to YouTube subs for the quick placebo affects from the hyped up 12 year old written scripts than you are on ZP which is deeply subtle, aiming to change you from the inside out, if your whole game is a sense of “speed” and “quick life changing events”

In three months you always develop yet nothing ever huge and absolutely reality bending can happen until you really gain momentum on your program and then become an entirely different person while on it, and if you don’t even notice small day to day positives to the script then why bother even listen?

All in all, im sorry to hear that you didn’t benefit from it at all yet I still urge you to take more time towards lofty goals like discovering a life purpose and to try and notice more of the changes that could be positive in your endeavor

#3

The frustration or discomfort that can come with waiting for something deeply desired to manifest or come into being.

Focus on what’s within your control: skills to develop, networks to build, steps to take.

Ask yourself: What small actions align me with this desire every day?

Practice Emotional Regulation

Journal your emotions. It helps move through impatience or doubt.

Find Purpose in the Pause

Sometimes the waiting period prepares you for the thing you want.

Visualize, but Don’t Cling

Visualization can reinforce belief. But clinging creates pressure.

Detach from Timeline

Desires often manifest after you’ve stopped micromanaging the “when.”

Waiting isn’t passive — it’s a hidden part of becoming ready. During this time, your job isn’t to force things to happen, but to become the kind of person who naturally attracts or aligns with what you desire.

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#4

Thanks for the reply. Sorry, I wasn’t clear on what you’re saying at the end. Are you suggesting I continue with this subliminal?

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#5

Thanks @Phoenix , very thoughtful.

#6

Personal Opinion

Sounds like you aren’t listening to it long enough, and it sounds like once you found the point of recon, you backed off and went back down to a more comfortable place?
It’s one title. Run a cycle with full loops, embrace the recon, stay smart, take care of yourself. Keep journaling and taking action as you have been.

Push yourself a little, you’ll be fine. Genesis is one of the safest, most accessible titles in the whole line up.

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#7

@praisetheurdtree Well, this is unexpected advice. Thanks for the new perspective.

I did it the way I did because I kept reading about the dreaded Recon and how so many people make microloops the default listening approach.

So you’re saying go hard with long listening times and eventually the Recon will pass? Like how long?

#8

@Hezlitt : It took me two years of running Emperor (old versions) to get to a point where I could say that the sub turned me into a person that didn’t exist before. We all start from different places. You might be expecting too much out of 3 cycles.

EDIT: I know what Genesis does. I used it. I liked it.

I don’t necessarily think that any sub or any product could show you what your purpose it. You don’t find a purpose. You just pick one and you run with it. Right now, there are two things that I think are my purpose. The first one, I always knew that I liked it, since I was a kid. But I’m nowhere close to even starting working on that and honestly, I might never do it. But I still think it’s my purpose. The other thing I believe is now my other purpose in life is something I clearly hated in my twenties. Now, I’m actually working on it and I’m close to getting the results that I want. How did that happen? I decided to make it my purpose and that’s it. While some people are looking for their purpose in life, I actually have two purposes. Isn’t that funny?

Don’t be so busy looking for your purpose that you miss great opportunities that are right in front of you.

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#9

I’m not saying “go hard” that might be too extreme, because sometimes you do need to back off and rest. What I’m saying is to push yourself to the limit of discomfort that you can handle, and stay there until you create a new limit for yourself. Yes, the recon will pass if you both push yourself, but also respect your limits.

If you push too far, then it backfires and you may feel totally overwhelmed–unlikely with Genesis, I’m just being real.

Having said that, most peoples true limits are much further than they think they are.

How long?

In my experience. It takes 3 cycles to really start to get your footing and clear away the baselevel recon, and 6 cycles to really transform in a pretty profound way, and the results can keep scaling after that point.

If you just want a flat answer with no pontification?

Run 1 cycle of full loops. If you see some real changes and you like those changes, then run 2 more cycles of full loops and take it from there.

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#10

For the record, the micro loop until sweet spot approach isn’t about avoiding recon.

It’s about finding the level of challenge (recon, typically) that you can tolerate, and staying there until you’re ready for more.

Somewhere Fire explained this, but I’m bad at saving posts.

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#11

Also here’s a quick reframe for you. If you felt recon, then it means you ARE responding to the title. So you aren’t stonewalling, you ARE responding, or else where would the recon come from? Recon often arises when there is some conflict between something within you (an old structure) and the new identity that the program is trying to help you uncover.

Expanded for clarity

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#12

Yeah I think I’ve experienced this too. The recon may have occurred anyway as I think it takes a few days to process 4 minutes.

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#13

@ksub Well said!

#14

Many thanks @praisetheurdtree for sharing your thoughts on loop lengths and dealing with recon. You’ve worked with Genesis so this is good for me to hear.

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#15

@Realitysmith so you took the approach of progressively increasing listening times? How did it go looking back on your time with your subs?

#16

I have, not for long. But I did land my “dream job” on it. Turns out the job sucked, but I got what I wanted. How young, naive, and lacking in ambition I was lol.

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#17

You attribute getting the job to your exposure to Genesis? What were the other benefits you actually got from listening to it? Your journal shows you combined a bunch of different subs for different goals.

#18

Yeah it was Genesis, pretty cut and dry because I’d been trying to get the job for a while. Genesis shifted it.

TBH man, I only ran it for a couple cycles and that was like 2 years ago now, and much has changed between then and now. But from memory, I kinda felt like my whole life just “got better” across the board.

Kinda felt like a general improvement to my life in all areas. Nothing super deep and reality bending in any area, but all areas just…got better. Not sure how else to say it.

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#19

I haven’t kept a tidy online journal in a couple years, for what it’s worth. 99% of my journey in the last few years has been offline.

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#20

Ah, I see. I remember reading your entries where you talked about “Genesis Anger”. How it went Listen-Anger-Action…something like that. Do other subs have the same kind of effect. Sounds like classic recon?

It would be great if I could avoid the intense anger based recon - that’s why I was so careful about microlooping and slowly building up times.

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