Glad for your comments and you decided to keep contributing. I always find myself learning from your comments
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Update 5:
Recon is not the same as what most people refer to as ‘reconciliation,’ since subliminal reconciliation refers to all the mental processes that occur after exposure to subliminals whilst recon are the side effect of that subliminal reconciliation. Therefore, I clarified the distinction above, although SC describes both quite well below.
Reconciliation:
When you are listening to a properly made subliminal, reconciliation is always happening.
It’s not a negative process at all!
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Reconciliation is a process where your internal beliefs and subconscious structures are being integrated, connected, reconciled, tested and made stronger/discarded in your subconscious mind.
Once you introduce subliminals, that’s when the game starts.Once you have subliminals being inputted into your subconscious mind, suddenly you have millions of new ideas, questions, answers and tests flowing into your subconscious mind – and it has to reconcile all of these!
Recon:
As it does so, you’ll experience emotions and memories surfacing and side effects such as fatigue, headaches, desire to switch/drop subliminals, etc. The more it has to reconcile, the more likely you are to experience these and have them be more noticeable.
Reconciliation Symptoms:
- Desire to quit subliminals.
- Obsessive, compulsive desire to switch subliminals (to some of our other subliminals or another company altogether).
- Feeling that nothing is happening/working, feeling of wasting time, or hopelessness.
- Depression, sadness, apathy, rage, anger, hate, jealousy (any negative emotion can surface). Can come in multiple forms such as a mood over several days or a sudden surfacing. Rarely can also come in extremely unusual feelings never felt before, such as joyous but soulful mourning.
- A “reconciliation fog” over your mind that makes illogical seem logical (in your mind, you’ll think you’re fine and that everyone else is at fault).
- Extreme handwaving away of results and effects – even the most obvious results will seem as if nothing is happening. An example is when we had testers with obviously elevated vital signs (rapid breathing, high heart rate, sweating) claim nothing is happening during testing of very specific experimental physical shifting technology.
- Vivid or weird dreams, which at times can contain hints at to what is happening in the subconscious. Can also be complete lack of dreams or at times nightmares.
- In rare cases, repeat awakenings where you wake up, think you are in reality, but then wake up again (sometimes multiple times in a row). This is usually the case with high levels of overload when the process of reconciliation gets incredibly complex, like a ball of yarn trying to reconcile all the new input and straighten itself out. We call these time-loops.
To sum it up:
- Reconciliation → the actual internal subliminal process, and
- Recon → the experiential side effects of that process.
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ENTP here as well.
Plus, I’ve been diving deep into complex spiritual and scientific concepts basically throughout my whole life and overthinking, overanalyzing and over-reflecting on everything and everyone.
Or in other words, it seems that when the ZP script triggers a reconciliation process inside my subconscious mind, a chain reaction happens, where the reconciliation then goes through all the possible layers, further down the rabbit hole, asking questions about the questions about the questions. And that reconciliation chain reaction only stops once it arrives at the very core of things.
I’ve been suspecting this for a long time, since this is how my conscious mind operates as well, trying to understand the concept behind the concept, the reason behind the reason, the source behind the symptoms etc. And now with Saint’s explanation this would confirm that it means that my subconscious mind also operates like that.
Luckily for me, I am always super open minded towards everything, so my mind, in most cases, will never outright reject an idea, but will always try to go its core and then reconcile it with other already existing ideas. No idea is too crazy to not be considered and reflected upon.
Which explains why I’ve always gotten hardcore recon symptoms from Love Bomb and WANTED / WB, as I’ve been processing additional layers from other people’s minds too – this is that “Extraverted” and “Intuitive” part of me (from “EN”-TP) and the mechanic that makes my subconscious mind telepathically access other’s people’s minds for additional processing of data happens because of this more often than it is probably necessary. That’s what happens with over-analyzing and overthinking of everything.
Sometimes it feels like that my mind is reconciling all of humanity at once. For example, reconciling my relationship with one particular person, triggers reconciliation of my relationship iwth all of humanity and all of humanity’s aspects etc.
Then, this chain reconciliation goes on and on until all possible aspects of humanity have been reflected upon and I can find my new place in that, and then update my belief about my relationship towards that particular person.
It feels like all I want to do is overwrite Girl-A.JPG with Girl-B.JPG, but then my mind starts questions the nature of JPEG’s, the file folder that these files are stored in, the nature of the operating system, the BIOS, the computer hardware it is based upon, the nature of saving pictures on computers, the nature of pictures in general and information processing etc. 
It feels like only wanting to take a sip of wine, but ending up becoming a sommelier and wine expert, just to mentally classify what that sip of wine meant and how it fits into the grand picture of my life.
I wish I would have known this earlier, I mean about the very different ways of how people can process the subliminal input, I then would have made more rest days in the past and even more conscious processing and would have paid more attention to how I am processing everything. Looks like I’ve been overexposing myself massively over the last years… but not because I listened to too many different titles, but because I was not aware that my mind operates in reconciliation chain reactions.
Maybe scripting against overthinking and overanalyzing would help?
Something like instruction the subconscious mind to reconcile an idea only gradually? Like reconcile it only so far, that the new idea can be manifested in the outer reality and just “tested out for a little bit first” and if the reality-backtest is successful only then reconcile it further?
Over the last weeks I have used ChatGPT extensively to dive deep into reasons for things and events in my life and all the psychological mechanics associated with it and that has been helping me a lot in terms of conscious processing of upcoming emotions and insights.
This also explains my latest experiences of the synergistic effects of running many different titles as sometimes a different perspective onto something is all that needed in order to break through a plateau. For example using the latest EE approach, has broken through the action taking plateau I previously had with KHAN. Now that plateau has been broken, I am taking a lot of action while going through KHAN’s Total Breakdown processing.
PS: I have also been using esoteric stuff in order to increase my transliminality.
PPS: Sorry if not all of this makes sense what I wrote here. English is not my native language. Anyways, with those new explanations I am one big step further with learning how to properly work with ZP.
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I have been wondering this for awhile. If information can be perceived through someone his energetic field. And if I often times get more results from reading the sales page and consciously tapping into that energy structure then why should I process things through the auditory part of my brain.
What if I can turn the entire audio just into an electromagnetic field and process it as energy.
Update 6:
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I noticed this as well, it can feel like a cloud of recon blocking your results
Going through it slightly now
But what helps me is knowing it’ll pass and just let it do that
All this chatter but what is the real solution?
I can clearly see the program is working in the sense that I am processing, I am being affected subliminally by something, I am feeling and operating differently or something is present within myself that could potentially cause great transformation but then just get stuck somewhere along the way never reaching the other side where it leads to significant changes that unfold in my life.
Just everything remains mostly the same, it might be seen a little different but no true breakthroughs, at least for me. The same life struggles, the same life circumstances maybe with a little bit of a different shade and color to it? Meaning I might change a little bit in perception and focus but the major obstacles are not being overcome.
So at a deep belief level my beliefs may not be changing and I remain stuck with the same old paradigm.
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Btw I wish I could use the anti recon script myself but the programs I can run & like don’t have it right now.
Actually now looking back I was having a significant amount of results when I ran programs around 3 to 5 mins, not so much anything on 30s or 1m, but from 3m onwards for sure very visible results especially when ran consistently such as every other day. Just that while I was having results I have a tremendous amount of psychological disturbance than makes nothing enjoyable as I was almost always going through something.
If I could just strip that part away and enjoy the results only or have it not be there just about all the time it would be beyond amazing.
Just have to figure out how!
the thread is full of solutions lol
start at low exposure, with your problems it would be smart to do what Saint recommended: 30s every 4-5 days
Sure you don’t have as much results but over time, you will be able build up to more and more exposure, which will bring more results but also without this psychological disturbance (because you will be working through your blocks smoothly, without having to recover for months)
Feeling quite good lately but will just continue long washout because my recon for some reason was very bad.
What I noticed is that I get bad recon below 1.5 minutes and above 7 minutes. 3-5 minutes seem to deliver best results somehow.
I believe it would be beneficial to have a 5-second break (auditory blanks in the audio-with no scripting in them, of course) between the quadrants, as it would allow the user to decide when to include listening to the next one and, therefore, have more control over their reconciliation cycle and growth.
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5 seconds is nothing. Only after a few hours I begin to realise if I overdid or not and sometimes longer.
But your experience may differ.
Will this new recon tech be implemented in all titles some day? If recon is such a pervasive problem (based on the volume of discussion about it on the forum, it is), then shouldn’t addressing it with this new tech be a priority?
Honestly, at this point, I just want to run the Ultima version.
What exactly is the benefit of this new super charged ZP subliminal technology if we have to battle this amorphous, invisible, unpredictable and insidious RECON just to get to the benefit? Regardless of how transformational the result is supposed to be…a product that puts you through this frustrating RECON puzzle with no concrete way of managing it other than well-intentioned users offering shoulder shrug tips like “monitor your reactions” - “are you dreaming weird?” - “you’re not listening enough” - “you’re listen too long” - “not enough breaks”…is a bad product.
I’m not being facetious, I would much rather listen to older versions of the subliminals, like the Ultima version or other previous generations of the subliminal tech for longer periods, with longer wait times just to have a smoother, more predictable result with the title I’m using. Even if the results took months to achieve, I’d take it if it meant not having to dealt with this RECON clown-show.
Is it just me, or were there just as many positive testimonials from past versions of the subliminals titles here and much less complaining about recon? Now we have subliminal technology SO innovative, SO powerful, that we’re advised to listen to 30 seconds and take a few days off to avoid recon. But recon still happens.
The old way? “Listen to the Ultima sub in it’s entirety on a regular basis and experience the result you desire. It may take weeks or more, but it’ll happen.”
Am I the only one that would love to do it the old way?
You know what’s ironic? Someone reading this will instantly think…“Ah, this guy is clearly in RECON”.
Is there a way to access the Ultima versions of titles?
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All of this stems from what SC has been telling us all along—but few truly listened: less is more. Period.
Subs from different producers work in different ways on different levels. And subs from SubClub have been evolving to the point where less is more. Imagine if somebody is teaching you. At first you’re willing to listen and learn, but at some point after they keep repeating the message over and over you put up a wall and start actively rejecting what they are saying because your brain is just getting tired of their constant talking. Give it a day to sink in and you’ll be willing to listen again. SubClub subs condense so much information in so little time that you’ll reach that point really fast. Which is why you have to let it sink in first.
Your neurological system learns by repetition. Take martial arts for example. Most teachers know it is better to practice one move a 1000 times than a 1000 moves 1 time. Because after a 1000 times you no longer need to think about it, you just do it. Subliminals are based on that concept. If you’ve heard the wrong message a 1000 times, then the sub will tell you the right message 1001 times.
Combine these 2 concepts and you will need time.
No magic 1 time fits all sub out there. If there were, our society would be like Doll House season 2. The need for repetition protects us as much as it can hinder us.
No previous tech has changed me so much and so quickly as this one—once I understood my own reconciliation cycle and started using ZP subs accordingly.
My results have been skyrocketing lately.
Update 7:
My current results:
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I am experiencing this right now with the new KHAN Stage 2.
It is so subtle, I am not sure whether I am actually changing lol.
A little bit of recon here and there, barely noticeable, which leads to the issue of me not knowing when the processing queue of my subconscious mind has cleared enough for the next loop… 
Are there any clear indicators of how one can know when the processing queue has been cleared up and it is okay to add new subliminal input?
I remember back then with ZP V1, this was easy to tell, because both, recon and results brutally manifested themselves “in your face”, but since NSE everything has become so subtle, recon and results, that I often question myself “am I still processing?”, “is this stonewalling?”, “is anything happening at all?”
But also understand that with the nature of NSE, the process of changing into a new person has become so fluid and subtle, that the only way to tell that one has changed, is to rigorously journal everything that happens and every little bit of one’s own behavior and thoughts.
For me personally, the change with ZP happens in two main phases.
Exponential Phases and Plateau Phases that switch one after another:
During exponential phases all comes together, results skyrocket, big changes happen or big mind shifting manifestations happen.
And then there are the plateau phases, during which the subconscious mind is working in the background on the deeper layers of issues and core beliefs and all the different aspects of it – which sometimes takes time and during these phases there are not so many results. But once all that stuff at the deepest layers has been updated, the exponential phase kicks in again.
Think about this is terms of software:
Plateau phases → your subconscious mind is replacing the operating software, replacing MacOS with Windows, or even upgrading the BIOS etc.
Expontial phases → your subconscious mind is installing a new game to play onto that new operating system. The new game is now fully compatible with the new operating system and can be executed and run smoothly and without errors. The new game you see on the screen are the now the positive results you experience consciously.
Verdict:
Your subconscious mind is always doing something with the ZP script, even if you don’t notice it.
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@Adi @Hezlitt
Just be grateful for seeing results so damn fast.
I need usually a couple of weeks to notice the slightest change. Same goes for recon.
To me, this sounds like a gift. I could tweak so much if I would be able to feel the subs so intensely. But no, I need to rely on guesswork.
Am I listening to much? Or not enough?
I’ll know in a couple of weeks.
If I’m carefully watching.
What helps is keeping a journal and rereading it every couple of weeks/months to become aware of slight changes.
But still, after spending close to two years with SC, my life changed tremendously.
Not on the outside.
There didn’t change to much.
But personality wise I grew a lot.
And I trust, that at a point when the foundation is set, when enough trauma is solved, enough understanding has arisen, enough building of positive characteristics is done, change will come rapidly.
What most people tend to forget is that subs aren’t supposed to manifest great change after just a couple of weeks.
On average, you’re supposed to run a sub for a whole year to see the results you desire.
And if you read journals like @Viktor s Victory Ventures, you see how a sub works if you run it for a year and longer. And it still delivers.
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I kind of agree with it. I hope it will be solved when the new instructions drop, because right now, an average person would just buy the sub, read the official guidelines of 1-2 loops every other day and would go crazy lol
Afaik only few sales pages mention microloops at the moment
Still, I seem to be doing good with the following strategy: start at 30 seconds, increase by 30s each listening day until feeling slight recon (more irritable, sleep worse, dreams, etc.) - stay there until it is resolved. Then increase again, with the same strategy. This way I’m able to grow, increase exposure, resolve recon, keep productivity high and smoothly work through my issues