@procyon98 I often feel enlightenment and self awareness are somehow very similar
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I’m very excited about it. 
I love your patience!
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I’m going to buy it now.
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Maybe I’ll ask like a jerk or I missed something. But if I already bought it, where should I enter the order code to access the top-secret forum? 
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So something I’ve noticed regarding energetic work with Sage Immortal is this:
when I first listened to it, it was (for some reason) harder to do the practices I do (chakras, merkaba, energy work). But still doable. Then after about a day, all the practices I’ve been doing felt much more tangible, and cleaner. I think my subconscious was busy integrating everything.
Examples would be like: before I ever listened to this sub it would be a little hard for me to visualize large tetrahedrons around me spinning in a 34/21 ratio, or feel the center of my chakras. But after listening to it (and a day of rest), it seems much more easy. And definitely an overall improvement.
And this is just listening to it twice. I’m really looking forward to the next few months with this.
The rest days are sooo key. I think that’s actually where the integration takes place
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Thank you. 
We are talking about different states of being, Sainthood vs Enlightenment. They are not the same state of being.
Yes, for Sainthood yes go out be good as you define good, or what the book your following says how good people should act.
A truly Enlightened being, I’m using the classical definition of knowing there is One thing ever created, knows Good vs Evil can’t even exist. There is only One thing. Shadow self can’t exist, because One thing only exist
Let’s take Mother Teresa and see what she is, a Saint. I never heard anyone say that Mother Teresa was ‘enlightened.’ She still was Catholic and had the good vs evil thing.
Sainthood is that pinnacle of a religious experience, likewise, True Enlightenment is the pinnacle spiritual experience. Different goals in both. You want righteousness, I want the knowing of there is One thing. And live in that state No one goal is better than the other. But they are different states with different goals, and endgames.
Again I say:
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People who are talking about " Enlightenment " are not enlightened !
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My curiosity of such things as what Sage promised, lead me to give a try to this sub.
I already feel that Sage Immortal is something beyond anything I felt before… more later.
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I disagree. True is enlightenment is about thinking for yourself. Free will. True enlightenment is about achieving what lies dormant in us, the ascension of your kundalini.
Ever wondered why we here on this earth? Why spirituality is almost completely suppressed?
If it was during the Middle Ages and someone heard me chanting runes, what do you think will happen to me? People fear what they don’t understand or justify it in a way that doesn’t make sense and that spreads.
And you’re wrong, we exist. Increase your vibrational frequency and you’ll feel what I’m talking about.
There’s yin and yang in every person. Balance is what we strive for. For instance, when you work on your male chakras and they’re not balanced with female one, you tend to focus more on the physical. And when you put emphasis on the female chakras, you neglect the physical. I’ve seen this happen to me countless times, it drove me to seeking balance.
And most importantly, true enlightenment is also seeing the lies disguised as truth. A lot about the world doesn’t make sense at all, there’s too many contradictions… and very little evidence supporting it. I was 15 when I first started I’m 23 this year, I felt in my bones the calling of spirituality. Never looked back, the best decision I ever made. I felt alive afterwards, it’s like I died and came into a new life.
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I’ve got an interest in what I’ll collectively call “woo-woo” practices - I’m trained in Reiki healing, my uncle is a skilled energy healer, my grandfather was renowned for his intuitive and dowsing abilities, I’ve had numerous precognitive experiences as well as several successful astral projections/OOBEs.
However, my focus has been and continues to be on more… tangible? pursuits… namely wealth and security for my family, and my own mindset.
That being said, the inner calm aspect of this sounds mighty tempting.
Is there any justification for getting this sub if I’ve not been pursuing any spiritual practices, have never got Alchemist, etc? I just want the inner peace. lol.
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Neti Neti and Iti Iti
Nothing and Everything
Emptiness and Oneness
Nirvana Shatakam and Aham Brahmasmi
Detachment and Universal Love
Mindfulness and Concentration
Surrendering and Cultivating
Right Hand Path and Left Hand Path
Divine Will and Free Will
Two sides of the same coin.
Pursue either and you’ll be blessed with the other too. 
Reconcile and Integrate – exactly what we do with subliminal scripts as well. 
Just my view. I’m neither educated in, nor a practitioner of any form of spirituality.
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This is not a true disagreement. Just a discussion of different perspectives.
Even the term ‘enlightenment’ itself was a 19th century translation of a variety of terms (often very technical terms) in Pali and Sanskrit. The term itself is usually considered outdated because the scholarship of mysticism (as well as of linguistics) has continued to march on over the past 150 years.
Some of those terms include ‘bodhi’ which is nowadays more often translated as ‘awakening’, ‘nibbana’ which is often translated now as ‘extinction’, ‘samadhi’ /‘samapatti’ translated as ‘unification’, and the list goes on and on.
Needless to say (and as usually happens), scholars and experienced practitioners within and outside of these traditions, tend to argue on and on about the exact nature and significance of the phenomena associated with progress and attainments.
And of course they do. Why shouldn’t they?
Have you heard of any area of advanced human endeavor in which after a lifetime of exploration one arrives at very simple answers that could be learned through a combination of guessing and common sense?
Honestly, I can’t think of one. I wouldn’t go to a medical doctor who had arrived at her expertise in that way. Or an auto mechanic. Or a teacher of wisdom and the transformation of consciousness.
On the other hand, there’s nothing wrong with just exploring and figuring out your own answers in your own way. ‘Reinventing the Wheel’. I think we all do this to some extent and many people figure out really useful things through that method. But we should acknowledge that there are also pretty real limitations inherent in it.
For me though, I feel that arguing about definitions of ‘enlightenment’ is only slightly better than arguing about whether Batman can beat Superman.
Just go try whatever your method is and then report back. Let your results do the arguing. People who actually do this often find that even if their terms differ, they still have significant areas of overlap.
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Simply put, those higher states of being that you hear about, including and not limited to ‘Enlightenment’, are difficult to describe because one has to use linguistics, which in those circles is considered but another limiting tool of the ego-mind; which must one whose interested must strive to annihilate.
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That was inspiring, guys. Thanks!
Could any one post anything about SI and their results on it, please? 
@Phoermes maybe?
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Within hours of running the first loops I was guided to find a grimoire that I wanted and imagined should exist, but didn’t think existed.
This is the first time I have experienced such rapid physical manifestation from a subliminal, absolutely stunning; and it’s still early days, less than 24 hours actually.
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I played the ultima this morning and It happened again: rapid dissolving of the “I”, no more thoughts, just realizations, intuitions and inspirations. Laughter and joyous. A state of peace, free of irritations and agitations. I would see objects as objects that’s all, no feelings or thoughts arising from them, just seeing them as they are.
There’s another thing interesting that’s happening, my visual perception is changing, I went for a run this morning and the grass, the trees, the light, and the flowers all looked beautiful, as if I went into higher pixelation with vibrant colors. As people walking, cycling, rollerskating and riding their vehicles passed me be, I felt as if I were a ghost. Later on while driving, I couldn’t help but see the trees with their leaves looking so much different, every single one of them was as if it was truly living and I had what I could only describe as a 3D focus on any part (might be Awakened Perception kicking in).
Further, I find myself as if I am not there but I also am, its like the body is subconsciously going about its routine of movements and gesture and I am just observing a film reel of some sorts.
Its fantastic how the world appears when you’re not producing thoughts about everything.
To further explain: It is as if my brain is receiving the external sensory stimuli but there’s no interpretation. Music is sounding much elaborate where I am picking up on subtle rhythms from instruments.
I made certain that I do no practice mental or physical this morning, yet the same experience came out as yesterday. A prolonged state of feelgood trance.
My forehead, the space between the brows, or slightly above the unibrow, feels harder than usual.
My conclusion is that this one is rapidly bringing out one’s spiritual/mystical disposition to the surface
That’s all I got for now.
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M A N I F E S T A T I O N
Sorry couldn’t help it, my manifestation detector went off 
leaps and jumps, leaps and jumps…
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