Main Disc. Thread: Sage Immortal (Core Also Available on Custom Store)

This is not a true disagreement. Just a discussion of different perspectives.

Even the term ‘enlightenment’ itself was a 19th century translation of a variety of terms (often very technical terms) in Pali and Sanskrit. The term itself is usually considered outdated because the scholarship of mysticism (as well as of linguistics) has continued to march on over the past 150 years.

Some of those terms include ‘bodhi’ which is nowadays more often translated as ‘awakening’, ‘nibbana’ which is often translated now as ‘extinction’, ‘samadhi’ /‘samapatti’ translated as ‘unification’, and the list goes on and on.

Needless to say (and as usually happens), scholars and experienced practitioners within and outside of these traditions, tend to argue on and on about the exact nature and significance of the phenomena associated with progress and attainments.

And of course they do. Why shouldn’t they?

Have you heard of any area of advanced human endeavor in which after a lifetime of exploration one arrives at very simple answers that could be learned through a combination of guessing and common sense?

Honestly, I can’t think of one. I wouldn’t go to a medical doctor who had arrived at her expertise in that way. Or an auto mechanic. Or a teacher of wisdom and the transformation of consciousness.

On the other hand, there’s nothing wrong with just exploring and figuring out your own answers in your own way. ‘Reinventing the Wheel’. I think we all do this to some extent and many people figure out really useful things through that method. But we should acknowledge that there are also pretty real limitations inherent in it.

For me though, I feel that arguing about definitions of ‘enlightenment’ is only slightly better than arguing about whether Batman can beat Superman.

Just go try whatever your method is and then report back. Let your results do the arguing. People who actually do this often find that even if their terms differ, they still have significant areas of overlap.

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Simply put, those higher states of being that you hear about, including and not limited to ‘Enlightenment’, are difficult to describe because one has to use linguistics, which in those circles is considered but another limiting tool of the ego-mind; which must one whose interested must strive to annihilate.

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That was inspiring, guys. Thanks! :slightly_smiling_face:

Could any one post anything about SI and their results on it, please? :heart_eyes:

@Phoermes maybe?

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Within hours of running the first loops I was guided to find a grimoire that I wanted and imagined should exist, but didn’t think existed.
This is the first time I have experienced such rapid physical manifestation from a subliminal, absolutely stunning; and it’s still early days, less than 24 hours actually.

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I played the ultima this morning and It happened again: rapid dissolving of the “I”, no more thoughts, just realizations, intuitions and inspirations. Laughter and joyous. A state of peace, free of irritations and agitations. I would see objects as objects that’s all, no feelings or thoughts arising from them, just seeing them as they are.

There’s another thing interesting that’s happening, my visual perception is changing, I went for a run this morning and the grass, the trees, the light, and the flowers all looked beautiful, as if I went into higher pixelation with vibrant colors. As people walking, cycling, rollerskating and riding their vehicles passed me be, I felt as if I were a ghost. Later on while driving, I couldn’t help but see the trees with their leaves looking so much different, every single one of them was as if it was truly living and I had what I could only describe as a 3D focus on any part (might be Awakened Perception kicking in).

Further, I find myself as if I am not there but I also am, its like the body is subconsciously going about its routine of movements and gesture and I am just observing a film reel of some sorts.

Its fantastic how the world appears when you’re not producing thoughts about everything.

To further explain: It is as if my brain is receiving the external sensory stimuli but there’s no interpretation. Music is sounding much elaborate where I am picking up on subtle rhythms from instruments.

I made certain that I do no practice mental or physical this morning, yet the same experience came out as yesterday. A prolonged state of feelgood trance.

My forehead, the space between the brows, or slightly above the unibrow, feels harder than usual.

My conclusion is that this one is rapidly bringing out one’s spiritual/mystical disposition to the surface

That’s all I got for now.

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M A N I F E S T A T I O N

Sorry couldn’t help it, my manifestation detector went off :slight_smile: leaps and jumps, leaps and jumps…

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It looks like the sub does what we’re looking for. It dissolves “ego” and destroys the judgemental disposition of our mind. So insanely tempted by SI… :heart_eyes:

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Physical as opposed to non-physical, i.e. inspiration, ideas etc. :relaxed:

@Phoermes I am using also the ultima format since yesterday. Today I found myself admiring the bright colors of things around me, especially the green of the leaves. The inner calm is fantastic, much profound than the one I have through my custom sub. I hope there will be soon the modules of SI in the Q store

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@BLACKICE to answer your question : I did not buy SI for the spirituality part only but what attracted me was more the inner peace and focus. And I would say just for the inner peace it is worth buying it

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Haha, yes, exactly. I couldn’t take my eyes of this leafy branch extending over the road while I was driving, until I had completely passed it

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And the details of the leaf ! I will become a botanist :slight_smile:

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No, no, no… I need to stick to the plan and complete my journey on RM. Damn! :rofl:

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I thought that this might have been a case in which some of the modules were in there first. (Similar to Project Hero). But maybe that’s not true.

I feel exactly the same.

Dissolving of the Ego. F yes!
But I have almost 8 months of other subs to run first haha

A test of patience and resilience!

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It will be worth the wait; I have this feeling that its bringing out the best version of the listener, like everything you’ve learned and integrated - I still feel PS from Stark coming up when interactions, the love of science and the night sky from RM. They’ve always been there, but with this they feel more pronounced, might have something to do with skipping ahead of the “no voice”, the ego’s comfort zone

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I think RM, Alchemist and LD are great foundations for the spiritual journey SI offers. Five more months to go! :slight_smile:

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@Sub.Zero @Avengers68

Guys, please use SG to abbreviate Sage Immortal,
as SI is already in use for Survival Instinct.


I actually saw @Fire use SG but I suspect it was in a dream. Not sure. :blush:

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When I read your text I always get a vision that a cool and somewhat skilled person is saying those words. Haha

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@emperor_obewan @dorfmeister might you be interested in this subliminal?

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