Workout Supplements Thread

The Emperor's Lounge
#1

Just continuing the discussion on pre-workout supplements into its own thread @Moon @SubliminalUser

What supplements do you use? I switch between pre-workouts (always on the ques to look for the next best one) but all of them have high amounts of citrulline and no caffeine. I use whey isolate and casein powder for protein (once in awhile I’ll have a mass gainer shake as a meal replacement), I also use test boosters, daily multivitamin for athletes, some extra zinc+magnesium+calcium, creatine monohydrate and Omega fatty acids. How about you?

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#2

Also to continue the discussion from the AC thread, I do recommend that if you want to try a Gorilla Mind product you should do it now while they have a 25% off sale. Their products are stupid expensive already but they are the best supplements on the market.

Not in my budget right now unfortunately, but I’m really looking forward to getting Gorilla Mode Nitric again and I am very curious about trying Lock & Load.

#3

@bombayduck where is this sale? I don’t see it on their site. is it a code?

#4

Dang, just checked my email and it looks like the sale ended yesterday, code was GORILLA25. Sorry about that.

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#5

Ecdysterone is a legal plant steroid which has been shown to have quite significant effect on muscle growth in humans. It achieves its anabolic effects not through an androgenic, but through an estrogenic pathway – so it does not inhibit testosterone production.

I take it alongside whey isolate. I try to eat a lot.

P.S. I’ve recently been interested in anabolic amino acids, such that increase growth hormone. These are also legal and include arginine, lysine and ornithine. In this study they increased HGH eight-fold with a simple oral blend of specific amino acids (which are unfortunately not disclosed): Increased Human Growth Hormone After Oral Consumption of an Amino Acid Supplement: Results of a Randomized, Placebo-Controlled, Double-Blind, Crossover Study in Healthy Subjects - PubMed.

I remember trying Niacin to increase HGH, quite large doses that made me red and sore all over the body (it’s similar to histamine). Hopefully the amino acids are less unpleasant. Has anyone tried this?

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#6

Never tried Niacin, I’ve had arginine and lysine in different supplements in the past but never isolated so I can’t tell the impact on HGH to be honest.

Have you tried Ibutamoren? It can possibly help you increase HGH but 1. you would need to figure out how to stomach the taste and 2. you would need to cycle it + take some supplements like berberine, since it spikes your fasting blood glucose levels and tanks insulin sensitivity.

Any reviews so far on ecdysterone? It’s the newest fad at the moment, everyone’s talking about ecdysterone and turkesterone. I’ve heard a whole bunch of opinions on it, ranging from them being placebos to being legal steroids, so I’ve been hesitant to try it.

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#7

I’m also on Dianabol so can’t say for sure.

Thanks for the suggestion about Ibutamoren. It looks interesting.

I plan to focus more on subliminals, because I believe they can be even more powerful than this.

#8

Ah, that’s unfortunate. I feel like taking ecydesterone while cycling dbol is kinda pointless, no? (Since the testerone production’s already going to be affected).

No problem, I’ve even seen people use ibutamoren as a PCT after a cycle so it’s a fairly versatile compound in terms of its uses. It’s also pretty easy to get online.

Agreed. I hope to use Spartan ZP one day because of just how effective Wanted has been for me from a physical perspective, and that sub doesn’t even focus on working out the way Spartan does.

#9

Ecdysterone works through an estrogenic pathway so it is probably synergistic.

Regarding Dianabol – the main reason I’m taking it is because of a study that showed brief steroid use has benefits for decades, if not life, at least in mice: Steroids can benefit athletes for a decade after use - BBC News.

I also learnt that I do not aromatize much since I’ve been able to handle quite extreme doses of Dianabol without any side effects whatsoever (tested with two brands).

So it’s been a learning experience as well, hopefully with some advantages once my testosterone production is back up again.

That’s nice. I’ll definitely check it out!

Indeed. I’ve used everything under the sun. All kinds of nootropics, vitamins, supplements, neurofeedback technology, magnetic brain stimulation… Most just hasn’t had any effect for me. One thing that’s helping me tremendously is the SSRI I take, but that’s on a mental level, albeit also on a physical in the sense that it has increased sexual lastingness.

I plan to quit Dianabol and Ecdysterone as soon as I run out, keep taking my SSRI (which I have prescribed for OCD) and using subliminals. I imagine the subliminals can be quite effective in PCT.

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#10

I’m looking forward to Beast Unleased Lifecharger. It could be more effective than any PWO.

#11

An updated version? To my knowledge there is a Beast Unleashed lifecharger on the app as well as the Beast Within.

#12

This is the supercharger that predates Q.

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#13

Actually not that expensive, if you think that most other supplement companies sell you a bunch of a air, or a lot of filler :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

My favorite ones are some local Grey Area supplements(preworkout with DMAA in it).

Less exoticly
Omega-3, Creatine

Non-workout supplements
Bacopa Monnieri (one of my favs but that taste of the powder :’))
rhodolia rhosia (Adaptogen, modulated stress response)

(General Lesson: Supplements are 99% of the time useless, underdosed or make claims that can’t be true… use a site like examine.com to double check scientific literature to see which ones effective and which ones have been completely taken out of context, supplements are maybe 5-10% performance boost, but you might not even notice anything if your fundementals are crap (sleep, nutrition, proper training, recovery) with other words, a proper foundation and baseline, it’s a cherry on top, not the main course).

#14

It’s useless because even if Ecdysterone had an anabolic effect the % you gain with it, is laughable compared to a full anabolic agent like Dianabol.
IIRC, wasn’t turkestorone a better option over ecy? (from my limited knowledge).

Have you done exposure therapy for your OCD?

#15

I no longer have OCD symptoms – but no, I never tried exposure response prevention therapy. I did do CBT a long time ago which helped temporarily.

#16

Yeah I absolutely agree with this, the important is to not get caught up on constant use because that will shorten your lifespan. Personally, I would be interested in taking a cycle or two of steroids if I 1) had access to taking blood tests for hormones and 2) an actual good source to acquire them.

I look forward to hearing about the the effect it could have, would be an absolute gamechanger IMO.

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#17

Well I know what I like and what I look for in ingredients, I’m not just buying random flavors of C4.

Now in terms of pricing, I’m paying about 50$ after taxes for 15 servings (2 scoop basis) of preworkout right now. For Gorilla Mode I’d have to pay 35$ just in shipping, with each tub of 20 servings costing 75$. If I buy 3 tubs of the same flavor at once at a discount, that would bring the price down to 70$ and that probably would be the best way to go, except if I pick a bad flavor I’m fucked.

Any recommendations on where to get pre-workouts with DMAA? I’ve definitely looked into that but have been out of luck.

Absolutely agreed, though I do believe that this doesn’t apply to L-citrulline which will hit you no matter what. Fucking love that stuff.

#18

maybe one day this will be available…

cheers raises Sestrin protein drink

#19

ain’t paying 7k for 5 mg

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#20

Guys please stay away from steriods like Dianabol. If you feel you are suffering from low test go see an endocrinologist.

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