Hey William, how come it was a mistake?
Curious about your experience
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It’s from my observation over my own experience, my friends’, and forum’s.
A long break gives more clarity & a chance for the sub to bloom, which helps with results.
Personally, i think of not doing it as a mistake, but I won’t say the same for others since i don’t have enough data on that yet.
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Exe 5m50s HeO 15m
I understood how to approach my feelings from DRR.
Now I get the regulation from LBFH too.
I’m being confronted with more of the internal problems that I’ve been subconsciously avoiding, not being aware of the depth of the roots of them.
Back then I duct taped them just enough so that I could still move forward even with the wound still existing in the background.
Now I’m able to not only face them straight, but also to rip off the duct tapes so I can confront them properly.
Confront them so I can just observe. Gain & apply the insights to them.
I’m finally at the point where this is more than just possible, it’s as if this is the most natural thing to do.
Going from DRRed to LBFH was a great decision.
It picked up right from where DRRed has built.
I wonder how I will be when I’m finally done with LBFH again.
I plan to use DRLD in place of LBFH/DRRed as a booster, but that will be in the distant future.
Combining it with Exe & HeO would be the best productivity stack.
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Exe 4m40s LBFH 15m
I recounted how long I’ve been using HeO using a more accurate method.
Exactly 450 days.
Excluding the washouts where I swapped it to another sub in the next cycle.
So that is around 1 year 3 months.
Add to that the 4 months I’ve been using it again now, so 1 year 7 months.
I thought I’d used it just as long as I did DRRed, but it’s actually 2 months short of the 1y9m I had with it.
I’m free right now, so maybe I’ll do one for LBFH too.
Update 1:
I got a pretty number again.
I remember it being just around 1 year, but I don’t count the washouts where I swapped LBFH to a different sub the next cycle this time, so that’s why it’s half a month short.
That + the 2 months I’ve been using LBFH again now.
So around 1 year 1.5 months total.
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Exe 7m LBFH 15m HeO 15m
Last day of the cycle.
7 rest days then a new one.
I’m gonna take a break from HeO in the middle of the cycle. WB will take its place for consistency sake & the social scripting.
I’m increasingly able to see WB’s results blooming even after I haven’t used it for a while.
That “click” about love was what I needed after all.
I can use WB for 30s.
But as usual, I won’t go there yet.
I’ll do +2s increment from 0 again.
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Many events are pointing me more towards a better understanding of compassion.
I didn’t make the connection to sub at first.
But as time goes on, the more i realized it might have been LBFH’s help.
A more regulated body is a great vessel for increased internal capacity, in which compassion & understanding towards others & oneself can grow.
As usual, I still hold full control.
It helps me realize & convince me to choose the path it offers.
It increases the likelihood that I choose that option, out of my free will, based on the understandings I have accumulated along the way.
The theme is LBFH, but the structure of how it works, and how I feel it’s filling my life, is very similar to HeO. I think they both influence each other with this one.
Update 1:
WB’s effects are not slowing down, it’s getting more and more in fact.
Is this even from WB?
It built the foundations for sure, but one of the subs i’m using must have been carrying the flame.
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Funny how comically easy i can defuse aggression. This is a familiar aspect of LBFH, but i feel like it’s more sophisticated now after the upgrade.
I feel like I’m truly in a safe space because even people who are against me can’t help but to turn amicable towards me.
It’s great to have that, i won’t take it recklessly though.
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Mogul 1s
Fuck i accidentally double clicked it while organizing my files.
It has been 4 rest days, I’ll add 5 rest days as a safety measure.
Update 1:
Now that I think about it, why do I still stick with 1 rest day every other day?
I did that to try out the new schedule in its normal form. I’ve used that for more than half a year.
I can start to experiment with more rest days.
Let’s start with 2 rest days after every listening day.
Update 2:
I’ll take a half month long washout instead.
Then I’ll do the next cycle like this:
Listen
Rest
Rest
Repeat
Washout
The cycle will be about 100 days long
The instruction says that taking extra rest days is good, but what if I take one every single time?
I’m seeing promising results from this prolonged washout; easier to discern the results, easier to take action, better clarity, better results, etc.
By doing this “2 rest days in between” schedule, I’ll be able to get better insight on how to get closer to the most optimal listening frequency for me.
I’m still in the belief that more rest days are better.
My experience with the new schedule has only confirmed it.
I’ll try this one first, then on the next cycle, I’ll try the “11 on 4/5 off” schedule again, like I did back then before the new instruction got out. I’ll use this configuration: 4x(11 on 4 off) + 1x(11 on 5 off).
So technically speaking, I’m still using the new instruction, but with the extra 4 rest days every 6 listening days. I’m really going back around to what I already found the most optimal for me.
This will help me compare the differences of each of these schedules, now that I’ve got sufficient data on me using the new schedule as is.
Update 3:
I’m taking a half month long washout.
So I think there’s no need to take HeO out for a long washout.
That means no WB any time soon to fill in HeO’s slot.
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The more active effects of LBFH have been slowly dripping away since around day 6-7 of the washout.
This is day 10.
5 more days till the new cycle.
So I think around 7 days is the right amount of days in a washout for me.
Update 1:
I’m starting to see the stark contrast between when LBFH was active and now.
There’s no way in hell i’m not sticking with LBFH for the next year.
I’ve tasted the nectar, I want this to be my default.
This is a level of regulation that I don’t know i could get from any other source, not this quickly and consistently.
It’s staying no matter what.
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“I have all the permission I need to be physically relaxed.”
I find myself increasingly able to spot & bypass the self-created limitations that keep me artificially prohibited from relaxing.
I’m able to realize more deeply that relaxing doesn’t mean neglecting.
If anything, it puts me in a better state to do what I need to do.
I used DRRed for 1y9m, HeO for 1y7m, DRR for 6m, the old LBFH for almost a year, all subs with differing degrees of regulation. Yet none of them come close to the speed and depth of the new LBFH.
It’s staying no matter what.
Update 1:
This is the last day of my washout.
The subs are blooming well even until now.
Looking back, 2 weeks of washout is not too many after all.
I expected a continuous dip after the more active effects waned away, but a lot of the other effects stabilised and stayed strong instead.
I’m developing results that didn’t happen as deeply when I was actively in a cycle.
It’s worth noting that I feel some incongruence since the middle of the washout, i might even call it recon. The difference between when i’m using subs and when I’m in a long washout was a bit disorientating. But it works out well anyway.
I’m considering more, but this is good enough for now. Next cycle tomorrow, LBFH & Exe.
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Did I accidentally delete the last post?
I think it was about a deeper level of regulation from LBFH.
Internally, the depth is different, VERY significantly distinct, I’m holding this sub and its family hostage, it’s not going anywhere from my stack ever. This is the fastest, most profound progress in my regulation i’ve ever gone through.
But when written down, it’s essentially the same as what I already wrote here anyway, so nothing’s lost.
I also wrote the new schedule I'm experimenting with:
LBFH Exe
Rest
Rest
LBFH HeO
Rest
Rest
LBFH Exe
Rest
Rest
HeO Exe
Rest
Rest
Repeat
95 days total including 7 washout days at the end.
5 day break every 3 listening days for LBFH & Exe.
I saw promising results from a break after going through the last washout.
I felt the more active results degraded after 6-7 days, so I hope 5 strikes the right balance even with the more sparse listening schedule.
HeO once every 5 listening days.
I’ve listened to it for 1y7m total, so I’d gamble on not needing to listen to it as often anymore for what I need.
WB's more active results are slipping away from me.
Well, it’s to be expected at this point.
It was surprising enough that so many of it stuck after months of not using it.
Not everything is gone though, the deeper changes that are still here are good enough.
I can always refresh it anytime I want.
HeO's virtue scripting results are coming back.
I’m feeling the push to learn more about the virtues and to live up to them again.
It’s so natural, as if it’s the most normal thing to happen, that I didn’t even think to mention it.
So it needs longer listening time to finally trigger similar results I had back then.
As within, so without, let’s see how much it will affect my actions & decisions this time around.
Update 1: I'm increasingly able to realise more and more that kindness comes from capacity.
I realised lately, when someone is complaining about their life, I’m able to naturally be calm & regulated on a different level. I’m able to accept & comfort them for who they are, as the person behind the issues they say. There’s no need for the clinging to having internal judgment towards them, neither for nor against.
From capacity comes genuine care.
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LBFH 15m EE 15m
Bringing back my body into regulation has been my default. It goes very quickly back to calmness no matter what.
And I do mean that. No matter what.
Pulse
2 years ago I wrote about pulses & latches.
Basically thoughts & feelings only come in one quick pulse that immediately goes down, followed by another, then another, until everything dies out.
Our mind is the one that creates the illusion of continuity & permanence, as if everything is one giant blob of emotion that won’t ever end.
Being aware of the pulses, and unlatching from the illusion, thus, was my very first real results from meditation (ofc with the help of subs).
Later on, I learnt the value of just observing the illusion, not only actively unlatching.
Latch
I brought this up because back then, i became aware of this pulse & latch after I started using HeO. Now I start to see it in action again.
Is this not purely LBFH, but also HeO in play?
I wasn’t expecting it to be so.
The difference now, I’m aware of the pulse, but now the unlatching process is very quick. It goes straight to deep regulation in a snap. There’s little need to use my mind.
It’s a straight “notice → regulation”. Bypassing many unnecessary blocks/complexity that has been falsely programmed in my mind.
Illusion
Because in reality, there’s 0 thing holding me back from being calm & regulated. Anything that suggests so is an illusion.
I have all the infallible permissions I need to be at ease within myself.
There nothing to “solve”. The instantenous path towards regulation is always there, ready to be taken at any time, in any place, under any circumstances.
Update 1:
Now that I think about it, maybe “latching” isn’t the most accurate description.
It implies a static object that I have to actively disconnect.
“Releasing a subconsciously tightened grip” is much more accurate. Because I’m already engaging in it, what I do is just stopping the engagement.
I’ll call it “pulse & grip” from now on.
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HeO 15m EE 15m yesterday
Day 4 without LBFH
The schedule
I can say with full certainty that the effects are NOT getting weaker.
It is, in fact, just as strong, if not stronger in some parts.
This schedule is viable, at least for me.
More data is needed to fully confirm it, but so far it has been promising.
LBFH is a beast.
I have never experienced a depth of internal & external regulation so wide and thorough before.
Immediate relaxation
This level of radical change in how my body & mind work would have thrown me into a deep recon had I not built a good enough foundation beforehand.
It’s a huge amount of deep changes, yet the capacity I’ve built up can take them all up just fine.
Sometimes I feel “overwhelmed”, but then I realised that even the dependence & clinging towards the “overwhelm” is just an illusion.
I have every right & means to be relaxed.
So I do, and most of the time, whatever holds me back from being so just passes like a cloud.
Ties with mindfulness
Sometimes it feels like it’s a game of noticing. Mindfulness.
As an example, if I want to relax my hand’s grip, I gotta notice first that my hand is tense in the first place, then I’m able to let go of the grip. Relax.
Try tensing up your hands by making a fist.
A tense grip is easy to spot since it’s very visual & big. Your entire hand is doing it.
The signal you have to send from your brain to your forearm’s muscles is also very obvious.
You’re not tensing your grip to keep yourself from falling into a ravine; you’re in a safe space.
But apply it to the other tensions in your body, where the signal is a habit you built up from a decade ago to confront an uncomfortable thought, where the tension blends so well into the background, you mistook it for the default of how your human body works, where releasing it subconsciously scares your body to the point where it acts as if you’re going to go splash into the ground if you do.
Then suddenly, not only is it hard to relax, but it is also hard to notice in the first place.
But you can.
There’s nothing stopping you from releasing your tense fist NOW.
Not later, not after you’ve cleansed something, not after you’ve followed a made up procedure, now.
You have all the means you need for it. All the permissions. All the prerequisites. All the safety.
Once I realised the true depth of it, it changed me.
But before all that, you gotta notice the tension first; you gotta be aware of the fist your hand made.
Herein comes mindfulness. To be aware of the tension, the “autopilot” sequence that leads to it, and the elaborate made up illusions that stop the release.
Observe
There’s nothing to fight, whatever comes will go after they’ve stayed.
The thought that there’s something to fight itself is an illusion.
Just observe.
It’s just like watching your hand tingling after you release your fist.
The tingles come, stay, and go on its own.
Productivity
The most important factor, my productivity, is not being hit at all.
In fact, it is getting better.
I’m able to see how unnecessary tension & the illusions my mind creates to justify the gripping are costing me my performance. Being able to let go of the grip makes me able to be more fluid & more productive.
But even then, I’ll still monitor how everything is affecting my performance.
If I see it dip, then I’ll start pulling back. It is still my top priority after all.
This is slowly becoming my default.
I’m starting to notice myself releasing by itself without me having to guide it as actively.
If LBFH is this strong, I wonder how out of the world PEACE would be.
It’s made specifically for this after all.
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have you tried TRE?
I actually have been learning about it for the past week.
Relaxing as i live my life is working great, but i’m also interested into TRE’s more targeted approach.
I want to try it later after I’ve progressed more with the current method.
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highly recommend it, changed my life more than anything (mood, traumas, energy, everything tbh); pairs well with any sub
it’s also way different than normal modalities like conscious relaxation, subs, working out, etc.
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LBFH is still going strong.
My mind is trying to convince me that there must be at least a slight dip now that I’ve not used it for 5 days, but the evidence suggests the exact opposite.
I don’t reframe, I don’t subdue, I don’t “try” to overlook.
I just relax.
All of those are just another form of tension trying to balance the loss of tension from what I’ve relaxed.
Tension trying to maintain itself by disguising itself as a path towards relaxation, when I already have a direct line towards relaxation in the first place.
Notice & observe the tension come, stay, and go.
I probably have written what’s essentially the exact same thing 100 different times here.
But the subs are proving to me, again and again, that the depth of it is deeper than words can convey.
Especially LBFH.
It’s free, yet it’s not a “trial sub” like the free ones from other vendors.
SC really put one of their best, full-fledged subs for free.
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LBFH 15m EE 15m
I feel more at ease after listening to LBFH again.
This reminds me of the old advice back then about listening to a microloop to ease recon.
I haven’t heard that one lately.
With how effective LBFH is, I don’t feel like describing my experience as “recon”.
It’s more like adjusting to a change, which is what recon essentially is, but with a milder connotation.
It feels like that one time on DRR, when I already went through enough internal healing, that a safety gate finally opened, allowing me to confront an overflowing amount of deeper wounds without getting overwhelmed.
Now it feels like the same thing is going on.
I’ve done enough internal work + the help of LBFH, that the guards of the next safety gate deemed that I’m ready to face the next onslaught of inner wounds that have been buried.
It’s the natural course of healing.
This would have been a debilitating recon back then.
But just like with DRR. I’m more than prepared to face it.
By relaxing, noticing, and observing.
Update 1:
I find it interesting to observe the tensions that are formed when I’m having a prejudice against others.
Relaxing them allows me to view them with kindness regardless.
Some parts of the judgement are still necessary, but the attachment towards the feelings that drives it tells more about myself than them.
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The new Peace looks interesting
I’m in the same level of dilemma as when I was weighing whether to add A:S or not.
It is very tempting.
I wonder if it’s overkill to stack it with LBFH. It’s not about compatibility; I’m considering the experience I’ve been having with LBFH lately. I’ve heard that it is different, but does it justify a swap in my personal journey right now?
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A few factors still have me prioritise LBFH at the moment.
It is built from the ground up to help & uplift others alongside my own growth.
That is a big factor in the level of fulfilment in my life.
Consistency with the subs I use is also a big factor. I have 1y2m total with LBFH.
The only new sub I’ve added to my arsenal was EE 9 months ago.
That was after a lot of deliberation, considering it’s much more up to date than LE.
LBFH was updated a few months ago, not years apart like EE & LE, so there’s not enough justification from that front.
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They talked about Summertime For Humanity one time.
I think if they make Peace For Humanity, I might finally give in. That’s an instant switch.
But for now, I’ll observe how far LBFH can bring me first.
Surrender
Think I’m starting to reach another stage with LBFH.
I finally realised a deeper depth & width of surrender.
It feels like I’m peeking at what’s behind the veil.
Surrender is the drive behind relaxation. It’s what allowed it in the first place.
It seems so obvious now that the fog has cleared.
Yet it took me a while to realise this depth of surrender.
Reluctance
I could also see it as the process of reconciliation finally bearing fruit.
I’ve been reluctant to call it recon, because it has been very smooth in the practical sense. My work took 0 hit from this. If anything it is actively being helped by the realisation.
Looking at how Saint describes recon under ZPU, this might be how it works going forward. Recon being something that goes smoothly no matter how much it is working on in the background.
Attachment to logic
The mind will find a way to logic its way out of tension.
What I learnt is that, it’s good to know, but there’s no need to excessively cling to it.
Before this, when I found a logic that pointed a way out, I immediately tried to attach to it.
Now I notice that the attachment is just another form of tension trying to maintain itself by disguising itself as a path towards relaxation. One part of the body relaxes, the other tenses up trying to “balance” the loss of tension.
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LBFH 15m HeO 15m
The changes feel like learning how to do everything with my left hand.
The shift after the realisation about relaxation is rewriting a lot of things that I had assumed as “the normal”. I feel like the radical relaxation is going directly against every pattern I had.
Yet everything is flowing well.
Because unlike the previous versions of recon, in reality, I’m going against nothing. I’m allowing everything to flow, then they dissipate on their own, without me having to go against them.
Then after sufficient relaxation, what comes after it is observing the body.
At a certain point, I’m relaxed enough that any tension arising is getting washed out by the sheer mass of the relaxation. It’s not getting as much grip as it used to have. This is partly what I described above as “surrender”.
I genuinely wonder.
Could I use WB for 1 minute now?
It’s probably not a wise idea to try any time soon, but I wonder if the time has finally come?
I think the hardest part will be balancing productivity with WB’s sheer results.
But I think I’m internally ready enough for any recon from it.
It’s a stupid idea as of now. I’ll wait until LBFH stabilises first.
I’ll consider it later though.
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