This is reassuring to know. 
To me LBFH is more loving and Summertime is friendly.
I haven’t run the new LBFH which has nervous system regulation but I don’t think there would be differences in that department since my experience with uodated titles like GLM, Regen, Summertime and even the test version of PEACE gave similar relaxation.
The main difference to me is in the quality I want to focus on. LBFH focuses on love and affection internally and externally while ST is warm and friendly with yourswlf and others.
If these ja a lot of healing required, LBFH is bsttss since sometimes ST will feel like you don’t like yourself as much although this could be the exception rather than the rule.
There are similarities of course like relaxed feelings and better relationships with others.
If I had to decide between them, I would read the sales pages of both and choose what calls out to me. Personally I like ST since LBFH is something I can only run for ahort durations. Too long with LBFH and I end up being too giving and not have any boundaries on myself. Although its script helps with that, am not yet in a situation where I can spend some time resolving boundaries.
PS: please excuse any typos in my posts guys. My sight isn’t up to the mark.
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A very clever new title
If u can go out in nature and get barefeet contact with earth and do some grounding, also stones/crystals for emotional purification, transformation and grounding will be very helpful.
@SaintSovereign does the peace title do other things beside well the inner peace/calmness?
Would it be a great support title for heavy recon titles like DRR?
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When are the older titles being upgraded? Gonna be honest , seems like you guys are pumping out new titles and just abandoning the classics ….P/SM/WB/D/EB/SB/ROTNW/PS/MT/EF/ , which I understand from a business perspective, however …wouldn’t it make more sense to upgrade all old in a faster shorter timeframe than creating new ? Anyway just my two cents and as being a member and user since 2019 , you have come a long way since those days .
Also it’s more so anticipation to see where those classic titles can evolve to , a more powerful direction for the veteran users of your products .
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I’m very excited for Peace!
It looks very promising after seeing what the new regulation scripting in LBFH could do.
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So a title for inner peace? Sounds like a very simple yet very important sub.
Wonder how a Peace/Ascension Chamber-hybrid might work.
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We release new titles to introduce new tech, then we take that research and upgrade the other titles. We’ve followed this same pattern since the beginning.
And upgrades to titles like Emperor and WB are not easy. These are the most popular titles here and require an incredible amount of work to complete successfully.
We will get to them in due time.
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I’m very interested in Peace. I wonder what possibilities it can show me.
Peace has always been a luxury in my life and whenever I have it here and there I note those treasured times.
Would love to have more of that at this point in my life.
I’ve never really been into stoicism, it just didn’t resonate with my very ordinary mind, so I am curious what this other path can lead to.
Felt a glimpse of what inner peace could be with DRR and testing out Summertime as well.
I’m looking at either of those including Peace, and then WDB, Emperor Reforge for a nice stack to settle into.
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Appreciate the reply saint , obviously was just an observation no attack on yourselves as a company etc …guess it’s just frustration lol , look forward to their updates in due course .
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PS, P are already updated as …. While they can use a zpu upgrade same with WB and SB …. They don’t need rework like other titles
I think they are doing things at a slower but better pace …. Sure I have to wait for titles I want
Also what they are putting out and working helps with scripting methods and technology for all the new upgrades as well
I do think most titles should be given the ZPU upgrade even if they are already reworked …… but I think they should do that once a year for a select amount of titles
Just my two cents as someone being here since end of 2018
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I second this but i think maybe after zpu is finished fully it might be better to start giving those updates depending on how much for zpu is left
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Dang, I don’t know what they’re putting into their customs (per the announcement Saint made about 2 weeks ago that they are now doing customs in some new way) AND GRANTED this is my first custom…
But got damn…I’m only 1 week into my wealth custom, still sitting in the low 1m micro loop territory and the results are absolutely hitting 
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Probably not. Support didn’t seem to think so when I asked and the ZPQ build I got doesn’t feel much different from ZPQ pre-ZPU buildwise.
interesting. could you paste what the support said as well as your question to them?
We haven’t finished the information to release on the ZPU build — it’s not all available to Support yet. But yes, ZPU is stronger, smoother and more effective. And all builds are now based on the ZPU build.
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@Grey —
Case in point. The ZPU build is incredible.
The ZPU build was one of the reasons we’ve been waiting to update old titles.
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wow. I just ordered another NEMT on standard strength. Very excited to see the full information on ZPU.
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If anyone cares, I will be officially moving into my own house as of the end of august.
3Bed2bath house, with a huge garden for gym/office. (This is as a solo owner 
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Prop firm trading has been good/bad. I messed up yesterday and breached my account because I wasn’t paying attention on which account I was trading on.
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@SaintSovereign (or anyone who knows for sure!),
I just placed an order for a Discounted ZP rebuild.
My original custom order was from back in May this year.
I just want to convert it into the recent (post-July 1st) ZPU build, since both my other customs are using the latest ZPU customs build, so I figure I might as well make it consistent across the board.
First time doing a rebuild; there was an option I could tick which said “This is an upgrade to a ZP title, leave my build the same.”
I left it un-ticked because I figured I’m trying to update the build so I don’t want to leave it the same?
But now wondering if I did the right thing lol (because it was a Paragon Sleep custom, which IS a ZP title, right?).
Hopefully someone can put my mind at rest