As the title say: what is the best sub to run if you have fear of women, fear to talking to them and staying with them?
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Primal if you want the quick route.
Khan if you can invest some time into it.
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Ask yourself what is the root of this fear you have. This could be very personal. You might need a healing, an alpha title, a sub that’s strong on just being social that doesn’t involve sexuality unless you want to steer it in that direction. You might do just fine with a more sexually straightforward sub that gets you talking to women.
Since you’re dealing with a fear, If you go with a social sub, running Rebirth before your main sub of choice will improve your results.
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I didn’t know there was such a fear, is this gynophobia?
Might want to check with a psychologist on that to see if there’s a deep rooted issue or something.
I remember that I felt it since I was a kid then it has changed over time. I can’t tell where it originated from. What I feel is discomfort when I am in the presence of women and I don’t feel at ease.
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I do not know, does not seem to me a pathology, I believe more a discomfort in being among women that can be due to various reasons, but it also depends on the periods.
Do you watch porn/masterbate?
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As @Nemesis suggested are you actually 100% scared of women, as in full-blown gynophobia? Or is it more so anxiety from a sexuality standpoint?
If it’s the first case drop ALL of the attraction subs you are using and run Dragon Reborn fully and then go through Khan, with the current ZP format doing so should allow one to get rid of a full-blown phobia, if you find the source of the trauma early on then you may not even need to go through both programs.
If on the other hand, you have ANXIETY about talking to women (different from a full-blown phobia), run PS and go interact with women in non-sexual interactions, like talking to a barista or making small talk with an older lady, just do communicate with more women so that your brain stops associating women as being sex objects. That isn’t meant to be a personal attack, it’s just something that will happen over time as you interact with more and more pornography. Try to cut PMO out of your routine or at the very least reduce your usage of it as it won’t help you become more comfortable around women.
Though at this point, after you’ve already run: Khan, Wanted, Regeneration, Ascension, PS & Dragon reborn, I’m not sure which program we can recommend you if you still have this problem after running all of those Subliminals (most of which you ran in the ZP format). You need to do some introspection and ask yourself if you’re really taking the right steps towards your success, approaching women, quitting PMO, and increasing your overall social skills, if you aren’t doing one of those things try adding that to the list of what you already do.
One final word of advice I have for you is to stick to running 2 ZP files per stack as you’ll get faster results. I think that for you being able to focus on certain aspects of your game would be better than trying and tackling everything at once.
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Nope, I recently quit after listening to Khan ST2 and lost interest in those things
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is the second you described, I feel uncomfortable with women from a sexual point of view.
this is excellent advice.
I also have the problem that I jump from program to program all the time. I should stay on a single schedule for a long time. I will choose the PS route as recommended from you for a while.
I think the same, having 2 ZP makes the stack smoother and faster in the results. Thanks for the advices, I will definitely put it to good use and try to be more patient which I sometimes miss lol.
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Check out the updated Primal objectives. I don’t remember them off top but I remember even before it was updated, there’s a line in there that talks about social shaking/nervousness.
I recommend Primal over Primal Seduction for more of a focused healing.
As tempting as PS’s sales page looks now…
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PRIMAL is the way to go.
In a very short time your problems turn into a state that can only be described as : a powerfully free Man that enjoys women and Sex to the utmost
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very well, if Primal is more immediate in solving these internal problems then I could opt for it and later also for PS to focus on the outer game.
Thanks guys.
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May the odds be ever in your favor.
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Remember that outer game is a 100% function of inner game
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That’s correct.
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What all have you run and for how long?
Ascension?
DR? Which stages?
Etc.
A few things: Ascension Q, DR, Khan Qv2 (ST1 only) and others, but I probably runned them badly (because I was constantly changing titles). I have to stay more on a title without changing because I don’t use them long enough.
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I’d advice Khan if you have the patience. KHAN will eliminate any fear that’s stopping you from being that Primal male you want to become. I say this because I was in your shoes and was complaining that Khan wasn’t working for me, if you check my journal and
khan’s thread you’ll see the progress that I’ve made. Khan hasn’t been easy for me but if you’re willing to stick to it to the last and be patient and compassionate towards yourself, you’ll totally eliminate those fears. Stacking it with Wanted could also help then you’ll see yourself as the price and any be able to seduce women effortlessly
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Primal would be your best shot.
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