What do you think about girl trips?

Young bro, you really want to get married in your early twenties to someone you’ve only been with for 5 months? Calm your horses, young bro. You still have a good decade in front of you to make that decision.

She is 21, been with you for 5 months and is going on a 3 month long girls trip with 2 other girls. That tells me everything I need to know about the situation.

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Well you kinda buried yourself there. Now you got no choice, going back on your word won’t be something she forgets in the future.

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True!

@RagnarLothbrok But it is not about trust, not really. It is about your insecurities and having no other options and not really being your realself with her.

If it is your first gf and it does seem that way and only after 5 months of being together and in your 20s… you two already talking about mariage. Then both of you don’t have your feet on the ground.

This is nothing more than puppy love with drama majorly caused by your own baggage.

You’ll live :rofl:

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I liked one of the points that @FireDragon made up above; though he took it in some different directions from me. (Diverse opinions for the win.)

It was this one:

How much have you thought about this angle?

I want to be careful about this one. I’m not talking about some kind of corny, immature, manipulative thing.

It’s like the idea of The Sheathed Sword.

You know. You go to learn martial arts and you actually do not want to be constantly brawling and fighting with strangers in the street. But you want to know that if you did get into a brawl, you would be a problem. The Sheathed Sword. It’s sharpened, oiled and polished. But it’s kept in the sheath as a sign of refinement and civilization.

It’s the knowledge of Options.

One thing that’s clear from what you’ve written, @RagnarLothbrok , is that you have a healthy respect for the fact that your girlfriend has options.

Does she have a similar understanding and healthy respect for the fact that you too have options? And more importantly, do you?

Again, want to be careful. I do not intend this in some kind of petty, forced way. It’s not about ‘trying to make someone jealous’. That too easily leads back to the same relationship dysfunctionality that people have been mentioning.

It’s tricky to get the balance right. It’s not primarily about proving something to someone else. It’s about cultivating your own quiet knowing or confidence.

It’s just another useful angle to keep in mind.

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@RagnarLothbrok I’d see it as a test.

If she cheats, nothing will be like before. All will change.

You’ll know if she can control herself, if she likes you enough or if she’s one of the girl who prioritize other guys.

Anyway, just my perspective I’m not that good with relationships but maybe could be a frame to consider.

You are young and you lost your virginity with this girl.
As with any starting relationship, there is a passion and love, and like you said you wanna marry her. How long have you been together?

We all know that at the start of any relationship, we tend to see everything brighter, and better on the other person but only time will tell if she is the right person.

I do not want to sound pessimistic but rather realistic but something is telling me that this won’t be your last relationship and then just marriage.

Of course, there is no point in being against her dream, of traveling to South America. Maybe she will meet @Joa23 in Chile :slight_smile: .

The only thing you can do is wish her a happy, successful journey with a lot of exciting experiences. Be with her in contact either via email, skype, or whatever tool you want as much as you both want.
And just time will tell what it is gonna be.

Regarding cheating, I would start with a presumption of innocence. Do not be jealous until you have some solid proof that it happened.

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Let’s hope @Joa23 is not running WB for @RagnarLothbrok’s sake pside_down_face:

That’s great to hear. Best thing, imo, is to just let her go and be indifferent about it; if she wanted to cheat, she would do it under your nose. Worst case is you learn a valuable life lesson :slight_smile: Don’t let this nonsense get into your head too much, and don’t get me wrong, you have all the right to worry about infidelity, its in our genes.

Whatever you do, do NOT act like a weak baby about this situation, even if every fiber of your heart is twisting in agony, it will just make things worse for you.

Think about it, either a fight will be set and you both leave on ugly terms which will break the relationship apart, and if she was traveling with the intention of having just a good time, she will now travel with the intent of climbing every tree in the Amazons; OR, y’all gonna talk it out and it ends up with something along the lines of her patting your head in reassurance that she would never do that, but in her hind-brain, she has lost some respect for ya.

Again, indifferent, walk into the situation like its not the end of the world if this relationship is over, because its not, and that’s the reality. The sun will roll in its per-ordained path as it has been since the dawn of its birth, the waves will wave and the winds will wind, yet your broken heart will still magically beat to the drums of life.

My best wishes, bro, not a comfortable shoe size to ride in.

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I like this post. What Neville Goddard book would you recommended that’s easy and has material like this in it, if you don’t mind me asking?

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It sounds like she’s loyal and well behaved, and sex is common and no big deal for you guys. Now she goes to South America, a trip she’s been excited for for years. The question is will she remain well behaved or will the flood gates open after being committed and monogamous for so long?… also since sex seems to have become not a big deal, perhaps it’ll be easier for her to do so. She’s used to having sex almost daily, and now suddenly she has to be celibate for 3 months? I mean that sucks for you too, no sex for 3 months. Then again, maybe it’s a good thing since she’s sexually bonded to you now and the thought of sex with someone else isn’t as attractive to her. You mention it’s mostly for nature and stuff, and maybe a festival or two. Well, in that case I’d say it’s entirely possible she remains loyal, but again, it’s hard to say since I don’t know her personally. Just some musings.

My question would be: what is the nature of this trip to South America to Israelis? Is it known as the time when they go and fully let loose after being in the military for four years, or is it more wholesome and just a fun and innocent thing to do after the service? Like what’s the attitude around this trip?

A girls single friends will very likely end up making her friend in a relationship end up being single again. It’s like crabs in a bucket. I wonder if this girls friends If they are single or in a relationship

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Sounds like she’s committed to the vacation with her friends. I always look at someone’s actions. She’s on a let’s be honest 3 month vacation where she’s going to be partying and drinking with friends. With alcohol and lower inhibitions and dudes around and females friends to egg her on, a lot can go wrong. How long have you been together ? That’s one of the biggest questions

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I can’t remember atm which book it was in but here’s a great lecture:

I have the Complete Reader.

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Yea 21 so she’s in her prime and she wants to experience the world so this now makes total sense. I figured the age had to be 18 to 24. A 5 month relationship is very new still and crazy to drop this now. Does she have to go on the trip this year can it wait unlit next year ?

5 months isn’t very long Though especially since she’s 21

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Yeah, but again it really depends on her as a person and also the cultural associations with this trip.

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It’s just a lot to drop on a 5 month relationship that’s still very new and still in the honey moon phase. Whatever decision is made though I hope it works out

Fr lol.

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I fundamentally disagree with what you wrote here and believe that trust is a necessary requirement for ANY type of relationship.

Without trust, all relationships are just TRANSACTIONS.

Without trust, all those “standards” and are nothing else than requirements in order for the transaction to happen.

Transactions are soul-less by nature. It feels like going to the brothel and engage in female assisted ejaculation. There is no intimacy and quality factor in there, because there is no real trust. It is all transactional.

To me, it sounds like many of your assumptions come from internet Red Pill world models, which are exactly that: models that the people who have those certain belief systems are manifesting for themselves into their personal realities, and then through this, confirming these models back to themselves.

Everyone will manifest those experiences with women which are in alignment with their subconscious belief system.

Change your belief system – change your experience/manifestations.

Which also means, all of those posted videos and experience stories in this thread about “what women do on vacations” do not reflect actual truth.
They only reflect the experiences that those people were manifesting with their particular subconscious belief systems. Nothing more and nothing less.

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Wisdom! Almost feels like 42. (The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything!)

Seriously, something for me to ponder on, and to share. Thank you for the think.

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@RagnarLothbrok what did you decide?

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