What do you think about girl trips?

As Lion said earlier its all about what your standards are and mine and plain and simple.

Had two friends who worked in the military when they came back from duty months later both their wives had been having affairs with other men.

A friend of mine whose girlfriend went travelling around Thailand for a month came back and told her boyfriend she needs “some space to think about what she wanted to really do in life”. It turned out she had met another guy on on one of the islands.

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In university, I dated a girl who went traveling by herself in West Africa for 2 months. She was in the candy store!!! Had all sorts of sex with all sorts of dudes. How do I know? She eventually confessed.
She came back a different person and told me the same thing: she needs “some space to think about what she wanted to really do in life”. :joy:

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Bro, I’m not a psychologist!

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I’ve been on multiple months-long deployments in my days in the Nav. Wife never cheated.

There were a few of my Navy “friends” who tried getting with her.

Ultimately, we can’t control what they do or don’t do I think.

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This is it.
You will never prevent someone from meeting someone else. Whether on a trip or in your own environment. That is why it is not an alternative to forbid her this trip.
To trust or not to trust that is the question.

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I think that´s the bottom line here.

Get clear on what You want @RagnarLothbrok

We aren´t living your life, we don´t all share the same experiences, values, boundaries etc.

Billions of women out there, no need to stay with somebody that doesn´t suit you/vice versa.

Imo you´ve reacted very mature, coming here, asking for advice. Definetly showcases growth.

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Interesting seeing everyone’s beliefs show up in one place on this subject

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Yes and this is the believe of our AI:

“The question of whether a long-distance relationship can survive a separation of three months is not easy to answer. There are many factors that can influence the outcome, such as the level of trust, communication, commitment, and compatibility between the partners. Some couples may find that the distance strengthens their bond and makes them appreciate each other more, while others may struggle with loneliness, temptation, or resentment. There is no definitive answer to whether they will cheat or not, as it depends on the individual circumstances and choices of each partner.”
@RagnarLothbrok

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I whole heartedly agree. What I’m trying to say as well is he can trust her and she can cheat, she may tell him afterwards or won’t, or will tell him 10 years down in the relationship. Or she is not a prson who will cheat at all but he doesn’t trust her, after the relationship he will always have that doubt.

It’s not about her at all. Its about him. Doesn’t matter where this jealousy/insecurity/common sense is coming from. Right now in his journey, he is not open to his s/o going on a long trip. He may never be open to such a thing or he may be open to it in the future. But right now he isn’t. So i don’t see that relationship being a good one whether she goes on to the trip(he will always have the doubt) or whether she doesn’t because his bf doesn’t want it(she probably will hold it against him and she will be made to miss out on a once in a lifetime opportunity)

I think it’s best for them to break up right now. Maybe I’m wrong and they will have a talk and sort everything out. But as of right now, i do believe that relationship is not gonna be a great one unless there’s some change in the internal beliefs in either one of them.

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If you do decide to break up with her you have to prepare urself because 2 or 3 months will come and go and she will be back home. She will reach out to you like nothing has happened and possibly want to continue the relationship from where it left off with you.
It’s going to happen. When it does all those feelings for her will come back full force and ur gonna wanna take her back. If you do or don’t that’s both fine. But if you do wanna end this prepare urself for when she returns from that trip

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I agree with everything you’re saying. You’re not understanding what I’m saying, lol.

I’m talking about the root cause.

The core issue of whether or not someone will cheat depends on their personal values, character, and tendencies.

Societal pressure, environmental circumstance, cultural factors, opportunities, etc can influence your behavior and increase tendency. However, they absolute do not and can not create innate tendencies or desires that weren’t already present in an individual to some degree. All they do is bring out or amplify your existing inclinations or tendencies.

All of the external factors you’ve mentioned and given examples of most definitely influence behavior but only within the framework of an individual’s pre-existing tendencies and values.

People’s actions = internal characteristics + external factors they encounter.

What @RagnarLothbrok is doing and I’ve been questioning, is very heavy leverage of external factors over internal characteristics.

To make sweeping generalizations about people based solely on external circumstances is completely irrational.

Trust or lack there of, stems from the underlying character and choices of the person involved, rather than the situation itself.

Whether or not someone cheats is a complex and individual behavior that isn’t solely determined by the presence or absence of specific opportunities or social pressures.

Everything in this post is basic psychology and human behavior, it’s not debatable.

This entire thread is not about “girl trips”, it’s about interplay between trust, communication, internal characteristics and external factors.


Basic Math (simplification):

Girlfriend’s Actions = Internal Characteristics + External Factors.

Level of trust = Probability of Cheating = Girlfriend’s Actions = [Internal Characteristics vs External Factors (Girl’s trip)]

Internal Characteristics: Moral values, commitment to the relationship, personal ethics, etc.

External Factors: Circumstances or situations that can potentially influence the girlfriend’s behavior. In this case, it’s the girl’s trip because it presents opportunities and pressures.

Distrust = External Factors > Internal Characteristics.
Trust = External Factors < Internal Characteristics.

Communication increases trust by reinforcing the positive Internal Characteristics↑ (of the girlfriend) and addressing any concerns related to External Factors↓.

A healthy relationship is where the Internal Characteristics are perceived as stronger and more trustworthy than External Factors - towards each other at all times.

Anyways, I’m done for the day. Cheers, lol.

Extract whatever is useful @RagnarLothbrok.

Also, be wary of taking advice from people

  • in toxic relationships
  • that have weak internal frameworks
  • have piss poor or even non-existent romantic lives

etc. Use common sense, lol. Always remember that you’re on the internet and the internet is a weird place.

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I understand that you and your wife come from a generation where infidelity was often viewed as more taboo and less socially acceptable. despite the fact it was happening at the time. Fast forward to 2023 In today’s world infidelity is no longer seen as shameful amongst women.

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This would be super toxic, needy and low self-esteem.
Ultimatums like this would be a reason for her to instantly end the relationship with him.
You can’t limit a person’s basic freedoms like this and expect to be in a healthy relationship.

@RagnarLothbrok
You either trust her and detach, or you don’t trust her but then need to ask yourself why you are with her in the first place. There is no in-between.

The answer lies within how good you truly know your girlfriend.

Also take a look at the girlfriends she is going to travel with. Are they sluts or are they loyal?

Also this:

You basically told her that you don’t trust her at all and never ever will be able to so.
You basically told her to quit the relationship with you right there, because she is with someone who has zero trust for her.

This is a serious mental issue. But it is completely your issue and you have no right to limit her general freedom of traveling just because YOU have a trust issue.

Then you have a general issue with women, because you have the limiting belief that they are all the same and none of them can ever be trusted.

If you are killing her dreams, you do not love her.

Listen to LBFH for at least half a year.

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His current standards are based on fear, lack of trust and low self-esteem, including that all women are the same.

These are not actual standards, but rules and ultimatums in order to stabilize his own worldview.

He seriously needs to build a strong foundation with LBFH in my opinion.

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He’s not wrong. A lot of problems guys have can be easily resolved with Ascension and A Love for Humanity

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Furthermore, having a Love Bomb in you heart, and being KHAN and WANTED, massively reduces the chance of a woman ever cheating on you…

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Yeah, in most cases a woman’s external behavior will simply reflect the man’s internal level of status, self-esteem and self-love. As within, so without.

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@ksub Has posted something similar a few times

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I don’t think so she has a choice. Don’t forget she already made her choice of going on the trip. She didn’t tell her bf can she go she’s telling him she’s going. Actions have consequences she can go but she’s gonna be going on her trip single not in a relationship.

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I still wanna know though about her friends are they single are they party girls ? There’s a saying a females single friends will always keep her single

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