this is the weirdest recon i’ve ever experienced
I shouldn’t have used 3 subs in a day, even if it was half a day apart and I only used WB for 30 seconds.
I feel like there are 2 versions of me that are playing a tug of war and are confused with how to proceed through life. they both feel “natural” but different at the same time.
productivity is gone.
confidence is gone. i feel worthless.
and I’m having the weirdest feeling of neediness ever.
i was impatient and paid the price for that. at least now I know what would happen if I did so rofl
it’s fine though, the washout period is in 2 days so getting recon now is not a problem.
I’m just surprised by the amount & the kind of recon that I’m experiencing now.
not all are negative though, I’m definitely seeing what WB is giving me. i need more introspection with this but the one thing that stands out the most is WB is driving me towards becoming more silent & composed. it is a really interesting experience. i will update on this more when my head is a bit clearer but they are definitely amazing.
I will still use WB tomorrow.
I’m having the feeling that what the sub is leading me to be is incomplete and I need to listen to the entirety of the script to be whole.
this is most likely wrong and I don’t actually need it. but it is what my feeling/intuition has been telling me throughout the day. i may as well write it here in this journal
Edit: I don’t regret the experience as a whole. In fact, I’m feeling really intrigued and excited about the things that are happening right now.
I haven’t listened to a sub yet, I’ll update this reply later after I have done it.
The recon is still here, though not as strong as yesterday night.
I got the urge to consume PUA products I used to use years ago. No mind programming, just actionable tips & tricks. I want more ammunition (inspiration) ready for my subconscious to fire whenever it sees fit.
As for my own development, I feel like I’m being directed into using fewer fillers and only talking when it is necessary. Though this part is still not fully integrated into me.
Update 1:
A little self introspection.
LBFH helps me to be able to enjoy a wider range of music. Now i can see the value and potential of musics that usually isn’t my taste and genuinely appreciate the experience.
I know it’s from LBFH because it has been happening even before i started DRLD. I was just not aware enough of it yet until now.
It’s also not limited to music. I am a tolerant person and LBFH is enhancing that even more without making me feel weak. The best part is, everything feels genuine and natural. It feels like it’s me, not something instilled by a sub.
Update 2:
WB 15m + DR 4m
well… there goes WB for 15m, even 30s gave me a huge recon. we’ll see
Update 3:
here is the immediate effect:
the neediness is mostly gone. it feels so natural.
i feel “I want to talk with people, but I don’t need to” a bit more on a deeper level. like I’m getting more understanding of the mindset itself.
i feel different. i can’t put it into words. it’s just different.
Update 4:
I feel less mentally dependent towards other people in a genuinely deeper way
Update 5:
I think I can understand why I was getting a huge recon.
this is not how I usually was.
the change is massive.
every time I type / talk. i get the urge to say less than necessary.
fewer words, fewer sentences, more essence.
SHOULD I SAY MORE? SHOULD I SAY LESS?? I’M CONFUSED. even I feel this way when I’m writing this journal. this part of WB is definitely not integrated well enough into my being yet. this is so not me
Update 6:
I’m writing too many updates but if you are reading this far, you are probably interested anyway.
I’m really enjoying the lesser amount of neediness. it feels genuine and natural. though i need to use WB more to ascertain this effect.
different doesn’t mean bad. I’m beginning to think about this sentence as I’m trying to settle with WB’s effects.
Update 7:
Maybe i’m not needy about other people. I’m needy about not wanting to let go of that neediness.
On another note, i feel more confidence in socializing. It’s a different kind of confidence than what i had and i’m still conflicted by it. But i’m open to the experience.
Update 8:
I hate this recon.
it’s different from every other recon I’ve felt before.
i didn’t expect it would hit as hard & as weirdly as this.
DRLD’s recon was bad but nowhere near WB’s now.
I’m not ready for this.
I re-read this post and i noticed that i didn’t write anything about recon before update 8. there were recons before update 8. i just somehow didn’t write it.
Conscious guidance.
I got reminded of this from reading the forum.
Just like how i manifested stuff with mogul, have greater mental control & manifested people with lbfh, get more productivity with drld, i said this to myself:
“Being mysterious is cool and all, but the people that i love and care about comes first. I still want to be close with them and strive to better each others above anything else.”
Just like that, 50% of the recon gone immediately within a few minutes.
What i needed was clarity. Especially with the amount of confusing contradictory changes that i’m experiencing right now. Not tricks to reduce the recon.
Honestly it’s such a huge relief, i felt like my being was being torn apart from different directions.
I have a theory.
The gratitude journal may had indirectly helped me gain more clarity & certainty. That’s why it was really effective in dealing with the recon back then.
I need to experiment more on this. 2 cases of huge recon, and both clarity & certainty have always been the answer. There’s potentially a pattern here.
This is not who I want to be.
I don’t care about being a coquette, being more attractive, having more girls, etc.
I picked WB only for the social skill & productivity since I was gonna use daredevil anyway but I’m not in a pinch enough to pick a sub that’s only focused on one thing, that’s on top of wanting to experiment on another ZPv2 MAX sub before the newer version of DR is announced.
I didn’t expect this much change, I’ve never had it this drastic before. I thought DRLD was massive because it’s a healing sub and the other subs won’t be as dramatic. WB proved otherwise.
that’s the artisan line for you, there’s really no holding back. they are not for a beginner.
This is the first time I’ve had a “stop using a sub” recon. all just from 2 listening days of WB. I will definitely continue using it since it’s clearly a recon. I wrote the things above as a record of how I feel right now.
Update 1:
workout motivation was amazing, that was the most effortless workout I’ve had in a long while. this must be from the physical shifting script.
on another note, I need to shift the source of my motivation from “it’s for the sake of the people I love and care about” to “this is for me, I want this”. I’d had this mindset for years before I used LBFH, and I trust myself that I can implement it back into my life.
this is a bummer, but I’m willing to follow where WB is leading me towards. or at least until I can get the feeling that I got from LBFH back.
putting this here as a self-encouragement.
socially I’m not doing good since the next day after I started WB. it’s not because of others but of the contradictions inside me and how I perceive others. I don’t take opportunities since my inside feels like it’s being torn apart, though it has gotten better now ever since my post about conscious guidance above.
I’ll let the subs & my personality align themselves with time.
Update 2:
I noticed that i’m paying attention to my body a lot more. This is a good development.
I will try to clarify my goals for the subs based on the sales page, then i’ll take action specific to those goals.
I will also force myself to be around people more. I can’t stay like this for too long anyway. It’s also a form of taking action for all the subs that i’m using right now.
Update 3:
My social confidence is gone. It is straight up not there. But saying “it’s fine, I’m going to be fine, i’m always fine” in the context of socializing seems to sooth the anxiety though.
It’s not conclusive yet but clarity & certainty do seem to help with recon.
Update 4:
Except for talking-with-people-related confidence which I’m still working on internally, the boost in confidence is insane. I’m having more of these thoughts: “I did it so it must be fine/must have been the right thing to do”, “I can just fix it if i mess up, it’s not a big deal”
I thought DRLD is the peak of confidence sub but WB showed me otherwise.
Update 5:
new conscious guidance:
“I want to be close with my friends, I want to have great conversations & connections with them. put anything that doesn’t immediately align with that aside and integrate it slowly as it fits.”
let’s see how this goes
Update 6:
I have the urge to use fewer words with WB, but I keep omitting verbs from my sentences by accident lol
I think the “laughing releases tension” scripting from LBFH is working hard right now as I’m watching funny videos.
I noticed that I have a lot more tension in my neck & shoulders. this might not be related to the sub, I’ll write this here anyway just in case.
Update 7:
talking with my friends is slowly chipping the recon away. i feel my confidence is going back bit by bit.
having conversations gives me the certainty that I’m fine, I’m doing alright, even with the recon.
the more I talk with the people I love & cherish again, the more I get the “I want to thrive so that I can support them and help each other” mindset back. it’s coming back quicker than I expected
taking action works.
it helps you clarify and ascertain yourself, your progress, the sub’s effects, etc.
Update 8:
the recon is… gone? that’s quicker than I expected. i guess aggressive goal-setting, journaling, & taking action work. getting more clarity & certainty are the main goals of those and they work.
I need to experiment more on this… or not rofl
I’ve been keeping it vague enough but the recon on WB is way worse than what I’ve let myself write here, I even needed to edit out an entry in this journal. it was that bad. i don’t want to play around anymore with another random recon. I’ll keep on track with my goals & objectives instead.
though i genuinely hated it, i don’t regret the whole experience. i do get more understanding of recon because of it.
Update 9:
Now the recon is mostly gone, I can enjoy the benefit of WB much more freely. the confidence boost is insane.
Update 10:
“I have options”
I think WB is helping me regulate my emotion. I’m not fully sure but I’m not gonna lawyer game this one either. It’s from WB.
I have also been drinking a lot today, maybe it’s the physical shifting or maybe my body needs it to process the sub or idk. anyway it’s a good change, let’s see if it’s something that stays
Update 11:
WB might be a great balancer to LBFH. This is just a hypothesis. I’ll elaborate more on this when it has become clearer.
Productivity is still not back, but i have prepared time to get bombarded with recon so it’s not a problem.
Update 12:
Am i being too close to people in my LBFH days?
Should i shift the focus more on myself?
Why am i thinking all of these?
Why wasn’t i thinking all of these?
It’s not just my thoughts, my feelings are also being altered.
Update 13:
Maybe the recon wasn’t because i have different contradictory goals, but because there’s a layer below my original goal that i need to explore but i wasn’t aware that i was covering it up before i used WB.
This is a wild thought. Maybe i do need RoM or RoD, rofl.
Update 14:
I have been constantly thirsty the whole day, and I’ve been drinking a lot of water. It’s WB giving a sign that i’ve been dehydrated all this time, rofl.
I’m being very vigilant in journaling positive changes I have to help me integrate with WB. The journal of this cycle will be packed.
I encourage you to ponder about following the self-adaptation model where you choose and WORK (taking action) with subs that would help you make the most of your real desires, needs, natural abilities, and circumstances, helping you get to the “next level”, instead of running subs that are scarcely relevant to the aforementioned qualities, getting recon, and random results.
that’s true, every sub I’ve been using from SC except for DRLD is mostly random. this is a good learning opportunity though, this strengthens my conviction to not have to touch subs that I don’t care about such as alpha or esoteric ones.
I’ll let WB plays for a few cycles, after that I’ll narrow my focus down to subs that fit what I want to be/improve the most like the chosen, limitless, and DR line of products. no need to experiment with khan, emperor, or commander like what i had in my long term plan before.
Take into account the whole model and not only the part that suits you. lol
Choose and WORK (taking action) with subs that would help you make the most of your real desires, needs, natural abilities, and circumstances, helping you get to the “next level”, instead of running subs that are scarcely relevant to the aforementioned qualities, getting recon, and random results.
Naturally, it’s your path, I only said what I’ve learnt for three years at SC. The subs that worked for me best were those that followed that model. Regeneration, DR, LD, Mogul, Stark. CFW, and now Ascension. I’m not saying i didn’t get any results running other titles yet most of those results were really distant to the objectives like when I was running Khan, Alchemist or HoM when I would get only some results related to the inner work. The same when it comes to KB I’m running now. I’m not saying I’m not getting any results but they’re far from the objectives. I need to reconsider running this sub since there are subs that would help me make even more of my real desires, needs, natural abilities and current circumstances, like PCC or Ultimate Writer.
I’ve been working & taking actions towards the subs’ and my own goals. So i kinda glanced over that point lol
Yeah, I’m still getting results with WB now even with the contradictory goals, just because it’s different from the objective doesn’t mean there’s no results from using them.
I am becoming more convinced that “clarity and certainty” is the key to resolving recons.
the other tricks like getting more sunlight and working out can help soothe the recon, but clarity and certainty come first.
journaling helps you get more clarity
taking action helps you feel more certain
I need to experiment more on this. I’m glad that I got WB so that I can explore more about recon.
It showed how i went from being in recon to having it almost completely gone by seeking clarity & certainty.
The journaling did help a lot with recon, so i’ll keep up the frequency.
An insane thought came this morning, “why do i care so much about these people? I need to focus on myself”. It felt so natural to think about.
I didn’t expect to have these kind of thoughts ever again after 5 cycles of LBFH. I have mixed feelings about this. I’ll try to find clarity & certainty about it.
I feel like i’m accepting WB more and more. “Yes i do want to be mysterious and stuff, why not?”. I’ll try to accept it more as i see fit
Update 1:
I feel a less emotional attachment to people. it wasn’t the bad kind of emotional attachment, it was positive. appreciating the people around and wanting to support & thrive together. I’m feeling less of that.
before LBFH, I always thought that emotional attachment is going to make me weaker. then I realized that it’s the opposite, it strengthens my conviction & motivation to achieve more instead.
now with WB, I’m getting “it’s time to retake my emotional independence” kind of thoughts.
i can’t put a “positive” or “negative” label on it, nor do I want to. I’ll try to make the best out of my mindset regardless.
maybe WB is the balancing force that I need with LBFH. maybe it’s not needed at all, but it gives an alternate road to the same destination that I’m driving towards. maybe it will change the destination and lead me to paris instead of rome. we’ll see.
Update 2:
Productivity is fully back. it’s still the same no-limit productivity that DRLD helped me get.
WB makes me pay more attention to my body. maybe this is what I need to balance the productivity from DRLD.
Update 3:
I’m 100% sure that the workout motivation comes from WB. as from how mentally effortless it is, it must be from both WB and DRLD.
I’m also growing to be more unattached to the people around me, it now feels really natural.
Unattached but still caring, i might be into something here.
Confidence is also huge.
Update 4:
I’ve been REALLY thirsty the whole day.
WB is really making me drink a lot of water.
Update 5:
I feel like life is doing its best to make me not emotionally attached to other people using different tactics and strategies. from inside and outside of me.
the detachment hurts, it genuinely hurts. the people are still here, they are not going anywhere, I’m still talking with them. but I feel like they are * one by one from my reality. I’ll try to get more clarity & certainty on the situation, my mind is clearly confused. It’s not as bad as a few days ago though, far from it.
being able to write my thoughts and feeling in this forum is helping me a lot
PCC is a good sub. I never used the newest version but the older version helped me a lot socially by ‘slowing down’ the interactions. I could observe people more effectively, and was able to notice their insecurities (they try to hide) through body language and voice tone cues. I think it helped me this way by taking my focus from inward to outward observation. It’s an underrated sub, I’ll be using it again in future stacks for sure.
1: WB 15m DRLD ?m
I need to test how effective seeking for clarity & certainty is. Getting more recon from WB later will help
2: Rest
3: WB 5m DRLD ?m
4: Rest
5: Mogul 15m AC 7m
I want to experiment with the 12-day stack rotation limitation
6: Rest
7: WB DRLD
8: Rest
9: WB DRLD
10: Rest
11: WB DRLD
12: Rest
13: WB 5m DRLD 5m AC 7m
14: Rest
15: WB DRLD
16: Rest
17: WB DRLD
18: Rest
19: WB ?m LBFH 15m
This is the 14th day after mogul, i also want to see how WB will integrate with LBFH later.
20: Rest
21: WB 15m LBFH 15m AC 7m
May as well blast the last day before the washout period with potential recon lol
22 - 26: Rest
There are no dreams, unlike the last 2 washout periods.
A part of my confidence is rising, but a part of it is still lower than before I used WB.
there’s something strange, I feel like my mind is being overloaded every time I think about my physical goals.
Update 1:
Productivity is high as usual, but motivation is not.
Recon from WB is down to only around 5% of the train wreck that was 3 days ago.
Workout is amazing, it’s really effortless. More than before i used WB.
Update 2:
I did another introspection.
I’m doing less mental wrestling compared to before i used SC. The effect is gradual so i didn’t notice it until now.
The tranquility script in LBFH is working well.
Update 3:
Productivity is gone, it’s just not there. I’m dragging myself by force.
Recon is gone. no recon, I just can’t feel the effects of other subs, no productivity boost, no overflowing self-love, etc. Of course, they are not completely gone, but you know what I mean. maybe processing WB’s script is taking priority in my head now.
Update 4:
I can’t feel the no PMO effect from DRLD anymore. I’m holding it through sheer willpower alone right now.
I originally wanted to write this in the WB product discussion thread, but I decided that it’s not appropriate to write this reply there:
Found this while searching “productivity” in this thread
I was having a similar recon.
I felt like people were ignoring me while in reality, they were not.
the feeling was really intense a few days ago though it has been subsiding now. i wrote more about the intensity in my journal. but it was strong enough that I felt like they were not just ignoring me, they were “missing” (gotta rephrase this word) from my reality.
The feeling of insecurity from it was also really strong.
I’m also having lack of productivity because the shift in my mindset affected one of the foundations of my motivation to be productive. that was worse a few days about because it was on top of the other recons.
Productivity is back. the feeling of no limit when doing it is back. motivation is back.
i can’t wait to see what will happen tomorrow after I listen to WB & DRLD again.
I thought about this last night, I wanted to use chosen, but it doesn’t have the social, cognitive, and wealth scripting like stark. That or I couldn’t find those on the sales page’s description. i want to support the people around me, but LBFH is doing that job just fine. CFW is still interesting though.
after a few cycles of WB, I’ll change it to stark or RM.
Update 1:
I feel normal today. I’m glad i started WB before a washout, i can take the time to process the effects before bombarding my mind in the next cycle
Update 2:
I’m thinking about whether i should add LBFH into my stack next cycle or not. There’s still room, but running 3 subs feels too much for me.
Productivity is high. DRLD is doing its magic.
Update 3:
Productivity is… i feel like it’s high, but when measured objectively it’s not as high as before I used WB. more like it’s a bit higher than before I started SC, but not mogul + DRLD kind of high.
this is really interesting, I’m having a lot of fun exploring subs.
socially:
-i feel less desire to stick around. if it’s not interesting, I go.
-i feel less connection to people as I’ve written for the past few days.
-i feel the urge to text my old girl friends. i feel the resistance is being wiped out. this is really random.
workout still feels really effortless.
I still feel really thirsty, I drink a lot more. nothing has changed except for starting WB. it’s purely from it.
this is new, i feel more hungry too now. I eat a lot in general, i keep it reasonably healthy too. but even with that, i still feel more hungry than usual.
my body is really needing a lot more fuel to process WB.
I think i need to clarify again before moving to the next cycle that i listened to 3 subs on day 19 (drld + lbfh in the morning, wb for 30s in the night) because i couldn’t wait to use wb lol
Then i accidentally played wb for 15m on day 21 plus DRLD for a few minutes.
I listened to the MAX MAX of zpv2 in the artisan line outside of the recommended way. So all the recon above is partly worsen by this too.
Expect the recon to not be as severe if you are following the guidelines properly.
I do gain a lot out of it, especially about understanding recon & myself. Lessons learned, don’t stack 3 in a day unless you know what you are doing, and start small. Now i have the first hand experience of why.
Most importantly, i learned about the potential value of clarity & certainty in dealing with recon. I want to experiment more on these.
Productivity high.
i want to go back to work, I’ll update this journal later
Update 1:
“I don’t need to talk with them” is the reoccurring thought that has been happening lately.
I want to, but I don’t need to. which sounds cool and all but the feelings clash with each other a bit.
I need to internalize WB more into my being.
I’m more thirsty. i drink a lot more than usual.
Update 2:
Productivity is really high.
I feel less need to respond if I don’t need to.
i can feel LBFH’s effect again, maybe it’s blooming, or WB’s self love script is helping.
no recon, even with 3 subs stacked, no diminishing effects either. let’s see if treating mogul with 30s microloops only like ascension chamber is realistic or not.
