Viktor’s Victory Venture (LE + DRR)

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#926

Honestly, i haven’t seen much changes inside from HeO since half a year ago.
I kept using it just to maintain the effects that are already there. making them stick deeper & longer.

You’re right, it has done its job. I can drop it to focus on other improvements. Maybe i’ll use it once in a while just to refresh the scripting.

I don’t know what to replace it with though.

I’m not really interested in running another sub other than DRR1 now. It hits every parts that i want to improve other than creativity.

Using DRR1 with RM or UA would be nice, but i think i’ll solo it for the time being.
It’s the sub that i want & need the most for my current circumstances.

So i think it’s better to give more focus on DRR1 alone when i don’t terribly want/need to use a another sub.

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#927

When in doubt, Chosen or Genesis are always good!

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#928

I just figured out that this is indeed the case.
The degree of productivity is different when i was running DRR1 with different subs.

DRR1 + HeO gave me the least. This is a big part of the reasons why i decided to swap out HeO for other subs. It has done its job and the effects that i want to stay have stuck around. I love using HeO, but i want to focus more on creativity & productivity now.

The productivity boost from HeO felt less direct compared to the other subs.

Now that i think about it, maybe that’s why i needed 2 “productivity” subs (HeO + something else) to balance out LBFH. HeO didn’t even give me that big of a boost in the first place, so i needed to add a sub that has more productivity boost to go toe to toe with the slight lethargy & the general outgoingness from LBFH.

Although the evidence is abundant, I need to test this out more by using LBFH + DRR1 + A productivity sub to be 100% sure.

I wouldn’t have noticed it if i didn’t stop HeO for a while and started DRR1 which works extremely well with productivity scripting from other subs.

@SaintSovereign @Fire For a sub about mastery & dedication, I think HeO could use a more direct/in depth productivity scripting.

Or maybe i’m just uniquely not as responsive to the productivity scripting from HeO compared to/without the help of other subs. That’s also a possibility.

I should probably explain this further.

The productivity from HeO feels like it comes from dedication.
Inner conviction & devotion to the craft. Feels like it’s for a higher purpose.

That is super fulfilling.

But it doesn’t feel like a general productivity push like the one from Mogul & RM:UWX.
Pairing those 3 with DRR1/DRLD enhances these effects, but it also highlights how indirect HeO’s boost is.

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#929

Right now i’m using DRR1 + RM:UWX.

I don’t pay too much attention on the writing scripting, i’ll accept whatever it does. i just want a sub that boosts both my productivity & creativity.

I use RM:UWX instead of the other RM products since it’s proven to be effective, and i have used it for 4 cycles before. So there won’t be any “gotcha” random recon that can come from a new sub.

Technically, i could use the experimental version of RM:V too since it fits all of the criteria above. It’s proven to be effective for what i want & i have used it for 2 cycles, so there won’t be any surprise recon.

But using it after the real product is already out doesn’t feel right.

I could get the new RM:V, but i really do not want to adapt & figure out a new recon from a new sub right now.

My eyes are still set on UA though. I could get it now, but it’s even less optimal than getting RM:V.
I need to see whether it can do what i want it to do or not, then i have to prepare to adapt & face the potential recon from a new sub.

So RM:UWX is the best option out of the bunch right now.
It increases my productivity & creativity. That’s all that i want.

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#930

My productivity lately has been great thanks to DRR1. My work load has also decreased a bit.

I can afford to experiment with resolving recon.

Not from a completely new sub, that’s way too risky & random. But from the subs i had used in the past.

LBFH, WB, & DRR2 are the prime subjects.

the lethargy recon from LBFH is too small to experiment on.
I’d love to test DRR2, but DRR1 is already in the stack, so I can’t.
That leaves me with WB.

I’m not sure whether i really want the effects from WB or not nowadays, but it’s a good starting point to start chipping away at the recon.

I have used WB for 4-5 cycles total, and I know what to expect from the recon. So i can take the test in a more controlled manner.

I’ll start with +2s every listening day.
Starting from 3s.
I’ll listen to it once every week.
The lethargy recon only showed up after i passed 20s. So it will take more than 2 months to get there. Nothing to worry about for now.

The goal is to really slowly fix whatever is giving me the lethargy recon from WB.
If it’s too much, or if i need to focus again, I’ll stop.

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#931

Wanted to ask a question - Since I have never run any Dragon Reborn titles. Neither Phoenix Reborn nor Limit Destroyer. Do you suggest me to run them? And what do I expect when I run them?

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#932

My experience with DRLD & DRR1 are a bit similar.

They both act as a booster for the other subs in my stack.
DRLD is more focused on breaking limits.
DRR1 has a bigger scope, it’s more general.

You should consider adding them if you want to bring the other subs in your stack to another level.

Though i weirdly didn’t get any significant recon from DRR1.
Other people have reported higher recon while they are on it.
So the safer option is DRLD if you feel like you’re not ready for DRR.

I personally like DRR1 more since it fits my wants & needs better.

Another reason to add them is the random healing they do.

Use them for a few cycles and then suddenly you notice the old regrets, anger, anxiety etc that you’ve been holding at the back of your mind for decades are gone.

Things that were holding you back from taking action, getting out of your comfort zone etc are gone.

Everything is just easier when you use them.
The DR series is the ultimate grease for the gears that run your life.

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#934

Iv heard someone say machine rest just made them sleepy and tired.

Just a lil tip

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#935

Thank you for the tip.
Hopefully I won’t get that side effects too much when I use the custom later.
Deep Sleep should be able to help, maybe they felt sleepy because their sleep was not right and Machine: Rest urged them to rest better.

Let’s see how it will turn out later.
There’s plenty of time to wait for people to give more testimonies for Synergy: Machine Totality before RM:UA is updated.

Edit:
Nah, you are right, I don’t want to take any chances, I’ll use another module instead.
Thanks again for the tip.

  • Swapped Synergy: Machine Totality for Synergy: Machine Unleashed
  • Swapped Productivity Unleashed for Disruption

I decided to add Disruption to help more with creativity.

There are other modules that I wanted to add, but this is why I chose Disruption

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The ones that got eliminated by DRR1
  • Synergy: Harmonic Conflux - Harmonic Singularity, Stress Displacement
    This module sounds great, but I will stack the custom with DRR1 which has this in the description:
  • Synergy: Voice is the Law - Emperor’s Voice, Voice Master
  • Synergy: At The Top - Lion IV, Alpha Body Language, Total Nonchalance, Rogue
These are great to have, but unnecessary because of UA
  • Ultimate Music Producer
  • Synergy: Worlds Untold - Sacred Words, Ultimate Writer
    UA encompasses all of them
For these ones, I'm betting that they are either already in Limitless, or will be added in UA
  • The Streams
  • Synergy: Master of the World - Mastermind, The Lines, Submodel Alpha
  • Synergy: Subconscious Mastery - Merger of Worlds, Information Releaser
I decided not to add these because the lasting changes brought by HeO are enough
  • Virtue Series: Diligence
  • Stillmind
  • Synergy: Iron Law - Steadfast, Iron Frame, Stonelike
The rest are the NR modules

I wanted to use all of them, but I decided that Disruption, Visionary & Revelation of Product Creation are better since they are more aligned with my goal of increasing creativity.

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#936

Second play of +2s of WB once every week.

“I should stop. My view of life has changed drastically this past year.
WB’s goals don’t resonate at all with me anymore.”

Is what i have been thinking.

I will stick with WB to see whether it is truly what i feel or is it just recon.

It is true that i’m not as interested with WB’s external goals anymore. But i am still interested with its self improvement goals

  • social mastery
  • converting weakness to power
  • emotional control
    Etc

All of those are still interesting for me.
DRR1 already handles all of those, but i want to see if i can get over the recon from WB with this +2s, 1/week schedule.

After writing that, i realised that i just got a manifestation a few moments before.

Is it from WB? Possibly. This is not the first time using only 5 seconds gave me results.

I liked what happened. I will keep using WB and see whether i really want to keep using it or not.

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#937

After I think about it again, the ones from LBFH have always been more to my taste.

If what I’m after is social related, WB is not the best fit for it, LBFH is better. But then again, I don’t particularly need what LBFH offers as much as i did back then.

So I decided to stop quantum-looping WB once every week and bring AC back to the stack.

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#938

There’s a slight lingering effect of WB’s emotional control scripting, or at least what I associate as is.

It might be weird to say it since I’m running DRR1 and I also only ran WB for 3s & 5s for a week apart.
Though very faint, this is distinctly WB.

It’s the increased ability to look at your thoughts & feelings and be aware of them instead of getting swept off. DRR1 is doing just that, but i feel like the one from WB is -really faintly- enhancing that.
It’s hard to explain, but it feels distinctly WB.

It’s the combination of both the “hey, I see what you’re doing, mind” aha moment when I’m being led by emotion and the feeling that accompanies the experience that makes it really like WB.

Does the emotional control scripting even come this early with only 5s?
Is it because I’ve used WB for 4-5 cycles before that 5s is enough?
Or is it because of the combination of DRR1 & WB?

Maybe it’s a coincidence that comes from using DRR1 for 3 cycles. there’s a chance that the emotional control scripting from it just fully kicked in at the same time as when i started this WB experiment.

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#940

Today is weird.
I feel like I’m unloved and no one cares about me. I rarely feel like this.
Nothing is unusual today. The feeling just came out of nowhere.

This can’t be from subs, this is the last day of the washout, so it’s the least unlikely time for recon to hit.
DRR1 never gave me this recon. It might be from WB, I did feel something a bit similar like this when i was going through the broader “loss” recon from it, but I only ran it for 5s. What’s the chance that 5s can give me a recon a week after I listened to it?

My body is just having a reaction out of nowhere.
I’ll sleep and if the feeling continues, I’ll run an emergency loop of LBFH.

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#941

On my first ever cycle of genesis, I had 9 days of washout recon. I had no recon whatsoever during my cycle, but once I started taking a washout, recon was intense for 9 days. After the 10th day it subsided so i restarted my cycle.

It’s possible, don’t second guess it if your intuition is saying it’s recon but your logic is saying you’ve been on a washout for too long for that to be feasible.

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#942

That’s true, it does feel a bit deep like a recon.
A normal feeling fluctuation usually feels superficial compared to a recon.

My suspicion is still that it’s from the combination of 5s of WB + DRR1.

I guess using a sub where i feel a strong sense of “this is not the direction where I want to go” is not a good idea in the first place. My priorities in life have shifted and WB’s goals are more distant than earlier this year.

Since it may be a recon, i won’t use LBFH as an emergency sub, it will just add to the weight.

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#943

Stress

Under DRR1, there is very little excess stress.
I can direct it to anything i want with ease. It doesn’t spill out.
I have better control of stress.

It’s like having better mind muscle connection.
The better the control, the less you’ll accidentally activate muscles that will hinder the intended movement.

It’s like the module Achilles.
Maybe there’s something similar to it in DRR1?

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#944

EmpD looks like a great sub for me to use.
Imagine how great EmpD + HeO would be. That’s the kind of charisma I would love to have.

But I really only care about enhancing my performance for now. Running HeO for 12 cycles with its mastery scripting left that big of a change in me. EmpD will have to wait until years later.

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#945

Making sure the changes stick.

After I compare the results from 10 cycles of LBFH & 12 cycles of HeO to the other subs I’ve used before.

I am certain that the only way to use subs is to stick to it for as long as possible, at least 6 to 9 months.
Anything lower than that should only be for an emergency or a short term goal.
If you want the changes to reach deep & stick long after you stop using the subs, at least that long is mandatory.

After 6 to 9 months, the effects from the subs will be upgraded to long term changes within you.
It will be harder to fade away since it’s not just an effect from the subs, it’s already a part of you.
the changes that stay won’t be just something on the surface either, it will have a huge scope and become deeper.

When your intuition says “ok, you are done with the sub” and the results, improvements etc are clear & objectively present in your life, keep it still in the stack for at least 2 to 3 more cycles.

Better yet, only swap if your direction in life has significantly changed, or if the subs have solved so much of your original goals that keep using it past that point won’t be the most beneficial anymore, only after using them for 6 to 9 months.

LBFH is one of my favorite subs and it has changed my life dramatically, but It won’t make sense for me to keep using it since the changes it brought have stayed and become a normal part of my life. Even after half a year without it. The same with HeO.

Sure, i don’t get the immediate effects from them anymore like the overflowing love or the boost towards living up to the virtues, but the changes that stay are already more than enough for what I want and need in my life.

Focusing on other aspects I want to enhance in life will, and has given me better ROI overall.
Life is dynamic, you are dynamic, and so should your usage of subs.
Find the balance between too short & too long for your goals.

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#946

I wholeheartedly agree.
And disagree at the same time.

At the moment, I run subs for short term goals,
while the long-term goals are staying the same.

I’ve built my custom to find a job in sales and prepare me optimally for it. Now that I have a training position, my needs changed, so I changed the subs.

I think it makes a major difference if you’ve sorted out a lot already, like you did.
Or if you’ve just realized how bad it actually is, and you’re struggling to survive, like me.

Where you are the captain of a pretty yacht, looking to improve your navigation skills and overhauling the interior,
I’m fighting to survive in a leaky submarine and have to make adjustments regularly. I just can’t afford to get a new interior because the moment I would put my energy on such a long-term project, I wouldn’t stop the boat from sinking.

It’s not that I wouldn’t love to run a stack for nine months straight. Especially AA, LB or Primal, would offer so much. But for the moment I need fast acting subs like Ascension or LE.

I hope you’re getting what I want to say.

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#947

Yes, we agree on the same thing.

I should have written it better and put more emphasis on the “emergency & short term goals”.

You’re right though, my short term & long term goals are usually aligned most of the time, and the subs are holistic enough to cover all of them. So i wasn’t really considering situations like yours when i was writing that.

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