@RVconsultant thankyou for changing the title!
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I found the only thing that works for my recon.
Conscious guidance.
I got reminded of this from reading the forum.
Just like how i manifested stuff with mogul, have greater mental control & manifested people with lbfh, get more productivity with drld, i said this to myself:
“Being mysterious is cool and all, but the people that i love and care about comes first. I still want to be close with them and strive to better each others above anything else.”
Just like that, 50% of the recon gone immediately within a few minutes.
What i needed was clarity. Especially with the amount of confusing contradictory changes that i’m experiencing right now. Not tricks to reduce the recon.
Honestly it’s such a huge relief, i felt like my being was being torn apart from different directions.
I have a theory.
The gratitude journal may had indirectly helped me gain more clarity & certainty. That’s why it was really effective in dealing with the recon back then.
I need to experiment more on this. 2 cases of huge recon, and both clarity & certainty have always been the answer. There’s potentially a pattern here.
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Rest day 2
I shouldn’t have chosen WB.
This is not who I want to be.
I don’t care about being a coquette, being more attractive, having more girls, etc.
I picked WB only for the social skill & productivity since I was gonna use daredevil anyway but I’m not in a pinch enough to pick a sub that’s only focused on one thing, that’s on top of wanting to experiment on another ZPv2 MAX sub before the newer version of DR is announced.
I didn’t expect this much change, I’ve never had it this drastic before. I thought DRLD was massive because it’s a healing sub and the other subs won’t be as dramatic. WB proved otherwise.
that’s the artisan line for you, there’s really no holding back. they are not for a beginner.
This is the first time I’ve had a “stop using a sub” recon. all just from 2 listening days of WB. I will definitely continue using it since it’s clearly a recon. I wrote the things above as a record of how I feel right now.
Update 1:
workout motivation was amazing, that was the most effortless workout I’ve had in a long while. this must be from the physical shifting script.
on another note, I need to shift the source of my motivation from “it’s for the sake of the people I love and care about” to “this is for me, I want this”. I’d had this mindset for years before I used LBFH, and I trust myself that I can implement it back into my life.
this is a bummer, but I’m willing to follow where WB is leading me towards. or at least until I can get the feeling that I got from LBFH back.
putting this here as a self-encouragement.
socially I’m not doing good since the next day after I started WB. it’s not because of others but of the contradictions inside me and how I perceive others. I don’t take opportunities since my inside feels like it’s being torn apart, though it has gotten better now ever since my post about conscious guidance above.
I’ll let the subs & my personality align themselves with time.
Update 2:
I noticed that i’m paying attention to my body a lot more. This is a good development.
I will try to clarify my goals for the subs based on the sales page, then i’ll take action specific to those goals.
I will also force myself to be around people more. I can’t stay like this for too long anyway. It’s also a form of taking action for all the subs that i’m using right now.
Update 3:
My social confidence is gone. It is straight up not there. But saying “it’s fine, I’m going to be fine, i’m always fine” in the context of socializing seems to sooth the anxiety though.
It’s not conclusive yet but clarity & certainty do seem to help with recon.
Update 4:
Except for talking-with-people-related confidence which I’m still working on internally, the boost in confidence is insane. I’m having more of these thoughts: “I did it so it must be fine/must have been the right thing to do”, “I can just fix it if i mess up, it’s not a big deal”
I thought DRLD is the peak of confidence sub but WB showed me otherwise.
Update 5:
new conscious guidance:
“I want to be close with my friends, I want to have great conversations & connections with them. put anything that doesn’t immediately align with that aside and integrate it slowly as it fits.”
let’s see how this goes
Update 6:
I have the urge to use fewer words with WB, but I keep omitting verbs from my sentences by accident lol
I think the “laughing releases tension” scripting from LBFH is working hard right now as I’m watching funny videos.
I noticed that I have a lot more tension in my neck & shoulders. this might not be related to the sub, I’ll write this here anyway just in case.
Update 7:
talking with my friends is slowly chipping the recon away. i feel my confidence is going back bit by bit.
having conversations gives me the certainty that I’m fine, I’m doing alright, even with the recon.
the more I talk with the people I love & cherish again, the more I get the “I want to thrive so that I can support them and help each other” mindset back. it’s coming back quicker than I expected
taking action works.
it helps you clarify and ascertain yourself, your progress, the sub’s effects, etc.
Update 8:
the recon is… gone? that’s quicker than I expected. i guess aggressive goal-setting, journaling, & taking action work. getting more clarity & certainty are the main goals of those and they work.
I need to experiment more on this… or not rofl
I’ve been keeping it vague enough but the recon on WB is way worse than what I’ve let myself write here, I even needed to edit out an entry in this journal. it was that bad. i don’t want to play around anymore with another random recon. I’ll keep on track with my goals & objectives instead.
though i genuinely hated it, i don’t regret the whole experience. i do get more understanding of recon because of it.
Update 9:
Now the recon is mostly gone, I can enjoy the benefit of WB much more freely. the confidence boost is insane.
Update 10:
“I have options”
I think WB is helping me regulate my emotion. I’m not fully sure but I’m not gonna lawyer game this one either. It’s from WB.
I have also been drinking a lot today, maybe it’s the physical shifting or maybe my body needs it to process the sub or idk. anyway it’s a good change, let’s see if it’s something that stays
Update 11:
WB might be a great balancer to LBFH. This is just a hypothesis. I’ll elaborate more on this when it has become clearer.
Productivity is still not back, but i have prepared time to get bombarded with recon so it’s not a problem.
Update 12:
Am i being too close to people in my LBFH days?
Should i shift the focus more on myself?
Why am i thinking all of these?
Why wasn’t i thinking all of these?
It’s not just my thoughts, my feelings are also being altered.
Update 13:
Maybe the recon wasn’t because i have different contradictory goals, but because there’s a layer below my original goal that i need to explore but i wasn’t aware that i was covering it up before i used WB.
This is a wild thought. Maybe i do need RoM or RoD, rofl.
Update 14:
I have been constantly thirsty the whole day, and I’ve been drinking a lot of water. It’s WB giving a sign that i’ve been dehydrated all this time, rofl.
I’m being very vigilant in journaling positive changes I have to help me integrate with WB. The journal of this cycle will be packed.
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I encourage you to ponder about following the self-adaptation model where you choose and WORK (taking action) with subs that would help you make the most of your real desires, needs, natural abilities, and circumstances, helping you get to the “next level”, instead of running subs that are scarcely relevant to the aforementioned qualities, getting recon, and random results.
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that’s true, every sub I’ve been using from SC except for DRLD is mostly random. this is a good learning opportunity though, this strengthens my conviction to not have to touch subs that I don’t care about such as alpha or esoteric ones.
I’ll let WB plays for a few cycles, after that I’ll narrow my focus down to subs that fit what I want to be/improve the most like the chosen, limitless, and DR line of products. no need to experiment with khan, emperor, or commander like what i had in my long term plan before.
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Take into account the whole model and not only the part that suits you. lol
Choose and WORK (taking action) with subs that would help you make the most of your real desires, needs, natural abilities, and circumstances, helping you get to the “next level”, instead of running subs that are scarcely relevant to the aforementioned qualities, getting recon, and random results.
Naturally, it’s your path, I only said what I’ve learnt for three years at SC. The subs that worked for me best were those that followed that model. Regeneration, DR, LD, Mogul, Stark. CFW, and now Ascension. I’m not saying i didn’t get any results running other titles yet most of those results were really distant to the objectives like when I was running Khan, Alchemist or HoM when I would get only some results related to the inner work. The same when it comes to KB I’m running now. I’m not saying I’m not getting any results but they’re far from the objectives. I need to reconsider running this sub since there are subs that would help me make even more of my real desires, needs, natural abilities and current circumstances, like PCC or Ultimate Writer.
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I completely forgot about PCC.
I have been actively re-reading the book for years.
I also checked the sales page again and it directly says that it can be stacked with chosen.
This sub looks like it will fit me really well.
PCC is going into the list of subs that i’m going to use after DR.
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I am becoming more convinced that “clarity and certainty” is the key to resolving recons.
the other tricks like getting more sunlight and working out can help soothe the recon, but clarity and certainty come first.
journaling helps you get more clarity
taking action helps you feel more certain
I need to experiment more on this. I’m glad that I got WB so that I can explore more about recon.
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Rest day 3 (WB)
Rest day 2 has 18 edits, rofl.
It showed how i went from being in recon to having it almost completely gone by seeking clarity & certainty.
The journaling did help a lot with recon, so i’ll keep up the frequency.
An insane thought came this morning, “why do i care so much about these people? I need to focus on myself”. It felt so natural to think about.
I didn’t expect to have these kind of thoughts ever again after 5 cycles of LBFH. I have mixed feelings about this. I’ll try to find clarity & certainty about it.
I feel like i’m accepting WB more and more. “Yes i do want to be mysterious and stuff, why not?”. I’ll try to accept it more as i see fit
Update 1:
I feel a less emotional attachment to people. it wasn’t the bad kind of emotional attachment, it was positive. appreciating the people around and wanting to support & thrive together. I’m feeling less of that.
before LBFH, I always thought that emotional attachment is going to make me weaker. then I realized that it’s the opposite, it strengthens my conviction & motivation to achieve more instead.
now with WB, I’m getting “it’s time to retake my emotional independence” kind of thoughts.
i can’t put a “positive” or “negative” label on it, nor do I want to. I’ll try to make the best out of my mindset regardless.
maybe WB is the balancing force that I need with LBFH. maybe it’s not needed at all, but it gives an alternate road to the same destination that I’m driving towards. maybe it will change the destination and lead me to paris instead of rome. we’ll see.
Update 2:
Productivity is fully back. it’s still the same no-limit productivity that DRLD helped me get.
WB makes me pay more attention to my body. maybe this is what I need to balance the productivity from DRLD.
Update 3:
I’m 100% sure that the workout motivation comes from WB. as from how mentally effortless it is, it must be from both WB and DRLD.
I’m also growing to be more unattached to the people around me, it now feels really natural.
Unattached but still caring, i might be into something here.
Confidence is also huge.
Update 4:
I’ve been REALLY thirsty the whole day.
WB is really making me drink a lot of water.
Update 5:
I feel like life is doing its best to make me not emotionally attached to other people using different tactics and strategies. from inside and outside of me.
the detachment hurts, it genuinely hurts. the people are still here, they are not going anywhere, I’m still talking with them. but I feel like they are * one by one from my reality. I’ll try to get more clarity & certainty on the situation, my mind is clearly confused. It’s not as bad as a few days ago though, far from it.
being able to write my thoughts and feeling in this forum is helping me a lot
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PCC is a good sub. I never used the newest version but the older version helped me a lot socially by ‘slowing down’ the interactions. I could observe people more effectively, and was able to notice their insecurities (they try to hide) through body language and voice tone cues. I think it helped me this way by taking my focus from inward to outward observation. It’s an underrated sub, I’ll be using it again in future stacks for sure.
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that’s cool, the book does focus a lot on noticing & playing the social game. being able to understand people more deeply will surely help
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Rest day 4
There are no dreams, unlike the last 2 washout periods.
A part of my confidence is rising, but a part of it is still lower than before I used WB.
there’s something strange, I feel like my mind is being overloaded every time I think about my physical goals.
Update 1:
Productivity is high as usual, but motivation is not.
Recon from WB is down to only around 5% of the train wreck that was 3 days ago.
Workout is amazing, it’s really effortless. More than before i used WB.
Update 2:
I did another introspection.
I’m doing less mental wrestling compared to before i used SC. The effect is gradual so i didn’t notice it until now.
The tranquility script in LBFH is working well.
Update 3:
Productivity is gone, it’s just not there. I’m dragging myself by force.
Recon is gone. no recon, I just can’t feel the effects of other subs, no productivity boost, no overflowing self-love, etc. Of course, they are not completely gone, but you know what I mean. maybe processing WB’s script is taking priority in my head now.
Update 4:
I can’t feel the no PMO effect from DRLD anymore. I’m holding it through sheer willpower alone right now.
Update 5:
Productivity is fluctuating
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I originally wanted to write this in the WB product discussion thread, but I decided that it’s not appropriate to write this reply there:
Found this while searching “productivity” in this thread
I was having a similar recon.
I felt like people were ignoring me while in reality, they were not.
the feeling was really intense a few days ago though it has been subsiding now. i wrote more about the intensity in my journal. but it was strong enough that I felt like they were not just ignoring me, they were “missing” (gotta rephrase this word) from my reality.
The feeling of insecurity from it was also really strong.
I’m also having lack of productivity because the shift in my mindset affected one of the foundations of my motivation to be productive. that was worse a few days about because it was on top of the other recons.
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Cycle 6 Day 2 rest
Productivity high.
i want to go back to work, I’ll update this journal later
Update 1:
“I don’t need to talk with them” is the reoccurring thought that has been happening lately.
I want to, but I don’t need to. which sounds cool and all but the feelings clash with each other a bit.
I need to internalize WB more into my being.
I’m more thirsty. i drink a lot more than usual.
Update 2:
Productivity is really high.
I feel less need to respond if I don’t need to.
i can feel LBFH’s effect again, maybe it’s blooming, or WB’s self love script is helping.
no recon, even with 3 subs stacked, no diminishing effects either. let’s see if treating mogul with 30s microloops only like ascension chamber is realistic or not.
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Cycle 6 day 8
Rest
Social life great
Productivity bad
a lot more sexual advances to me.
running WB DRLD for 30m total was not smart with the mogul experiment. I feel the same decrease in productivity as when I’m overloaded.
no recon. my mental state is better than ever in my life.
Update 1:
I did an introspection and found another hidden recon
My mind is trying to invalidate my results. My logical mind knows that the effects are there, but a part of me is trying to underplay it.
If i were a skeptic, i would say that the sub is not doing a lot. That’s what the recon is making me think, when in reality it’s different.
Update 2:
Greater appreciation to my looks.
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Cycle 6 day 10
Rest
no recon yesterday, productivity normal.
My favorite effects from WB are the decrease in neediness and the increase in emotional control. i like them even more than girls, sex, and other effects from WB. i wish there was a stand alone healing sub with those effects only.
Vipassana greatly boosts my emotional control even further. more than I expected.
I asked the sub to guide me into having greater control of my emotions and a few days later ouroboros posted about vipassana. the manifestation scripting works, rofl.
Update 1:
Productivity high. this really feels like DRLD’s effect.
my head I clearer now, I can see with a level head the difference between what WB’s recon 2 weeks ago brought up and how I feel now compared to then.
less neediness, more emotional control, more girls, more sex drive, more workout motivation.
different feelings of productivity and in socialization.
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Amazing! Glad to hear it 
Had you tried it before I brought it up?
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i have heard about the concept of vipassana before in other forms, but I didn’t pay any attention to them.
now that you have brought it up, the path that I can take is clearer.
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Cycle 6 day 11
DRLD 6m WB 6m
maybe i can take 12 minutes now seeing that I didn’t get much recon on day 9.
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Cycle 6 day 12
Rest
I feel lazier today. it’s a common thing in the day before I listen to mogul. i do it once every 6 days like this:
tomorrow is the decisive day to see if the experiment of treating mogul like ascension chamber is a good idea or not. i didn’t overload myself with WB and DRLD for the past few days, no big recon. it’s a sterile ground to see if using mogul tomorrow will be too much or not.
30 seconds of mogul works. the effects are obvious even with this treatment.
WB5m DRLD5m Mogul30s is also not as heavy as listening to WB15m DRLD15m, but this is not conclusive yet. i still need to see how it will turn out after I do it again tomorrow.
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