Viktor’s Victory Venture (LE + DRR)

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#1509

WB is so good.

Knowing that I can completely trust my intuition’s guidance is immensely useful in social situations.

I’m pretty confident with myself even before WB, but this is another layer of confidence that I wasn’t aware was even possible before. I’m also adapting well to it.
It’s interesting to see how WB works exceptionally well with women, even when I don’t treat them that differently than guys. Well, this is a romance sub, so it should be obvious, rofl.

I think combining it with DRR3 is boosting the results even further.
WB’s guidance + DRR3’s “processing that leads to detachment” is a potent combination.

I can’t stop talking about WB because I haven’t even moved past 8s yet, and the effects are already this impactful & obvious.

I’m too excited to just keep this to myself.

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WB I don't think it's for me....yet....what do I do now?
#1510

I’m having great results from DRR3 + WB.
My productivity is not suffering either. They are actually helping it by healing & giving me a better time when I’m resting. That’s the last thing i expected from WB and 30m of DRR3.

I’ll go ahead with my plan to push HLB back to the middle of 2026 in favor of using more DRR3 first. I can slot in WB in the meantime.

I’ll use +1s every 2 listening days for WB.
I already have great results, i see no need to rush it.

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#1511

what’s your current schedule? 1 day on, 1 off, washout every 15(?) days?

#1512

yes, once every other day unless my intuition tells me to take extra rest days.
washout after 9-13 days.

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#1513

So results from DRR3 are still strong?
No intention to moving to stage 4 anytime soon (like this year)?

#1514

Very.
DRR3 is as good as DRR1, but DRR3’s healing is closer to what I need to heal.

Yes, not anymore. I’ll move it to the start of next year, then keep it in the stack for 12 months.
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Something like this.
5 months of break from HeO looks impossible to actually follow, so I think I’ll add HeO somewhere in the middle of my DRR3 run too.

Edit:
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Revised it because 1 year straight of WB & DRR4 is just asking for trouble.
That’s just gonna repeat the loss of clarity I experienced with HeO.

Lighter color means less than 1m.
I decided to give HeO’s slot to start microlooping the HLB3&4 custom earlier on.

#1515

I would encourage you to get a Name Embedded Version of Hero in the meantime.
You’re still getting good results, but imagine what a Name Embedd could do.
You don’t even need the extra module, just your name in it.

@Juissance switched to an all name embedded stack. He prefers it over customs. Thats how good they are.

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#1516

I was tempted, but I already got what I wanted with just the store version of HeO.
It’s already more than enough.

I also finally found more clarity with HeO because of the long break I took from it.
The changes are staying now, even after I stopped using it for a month, unlike before.

I’m content with running HeO as is, even if it doesn’t give me more than what I already have now from it.

DRR4 though, I might gonna consider making it into a name embed one instead.

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#1517

It feels like the active effects of WB are waning down quicker than other subs if i don’t listen to it every other day. It has been clear with the 2 washouts i did with WB this far. 2nd/3rd day always a dip.

Well, this is the drawback of super short loops.
It seems I can’t take extra rest days as long as WB is in my stack.
The stack won’t feel as light anymore without the extra, and I’ll also stick with 11 on 4 off from now on instead of going with shorter cycles like I planned before.

It’s not the most ideal, but it’s not that much of a sacrifice anyway.
The benefits from WB are worth it.

On another note, it’s funny seeing how the harem scripting works. And yes, it is effective, rofl.

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#1518

Man im just gonna listen to all my subs 30s from now on lol dont wanna deal with recon no more just want results

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#1519

Without going into too much detail:

Tell me how can I possibly swap WB for anything else after THAT?

No, this sub is staying in my stack for a year. The earlier plan I posted above is now set in stone.
It takes a lot to convince a guy who’s obsessed with his work to take a detour like this, and god damn it, did WB deliver more than enough reasons.

But what I don’t understand is, I went the exact opposite direction of being mysterious, yet it felt just like WB. The sub’s usual boosts are working extremely well even when I open myself up like a book.

I’m cutting out a lot of the details, but this means 1 thing:
The mysteriousness from WB is not something you have to be, but it is a tool that you can deploy when you need to, and you can retract whenever it’s more beneficial to do so.

Unlike when I ran WB for a longer loop, the mysteriousness now doesn’t feel like an overwhelming obligation, one that you have to obey or else. The shorter loop allows me to gain significantly better control of it.

It becomes a retractable claw instead of an overgrown antler.

CAN 7S STOP SURPRISING ME LIKE THIS?

Jesus… My heart can’t take it.

I wish the name change would be available soon. I don’t feel comfortable sharing more with this name.
I think I’ll just start deleting every WB related journal here.
Those who want to read it, already read it. I have also been oversharing a bit, despite of my efforts to keep it vague.

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#1520

DRR3 30m WB 8s

I can immediately feel WB’s guidance returning.

Yeah, this is pretty much confirmed. The difference is pretty stark.
The subtle effects were still there in the washout, but the direct, active “savvy-ness” waned too quickly.

I might gonna look at increasing the cycle’s length to 15 on 5 off.
30m of DRR3 is not as heavy as 15m of DRR3 + 15m of HeO anyway.
So I should be able to increase it to 15 days without getting the subtle overexposure that usually starts around the 15th-17th day of a cycle.

I’ve been thinking about this more, but I feel much more fulfilled with the depth socialization WB helps to provide than the romance or sex themselves. While I enjoy every result I get now, I wish the depth could extend to guys just as much as to girls too. Sex excluded because I’m straight.

DRR3 has been amazing.
The “processing that leads to detachment” synchronizes extremely well with WB.
I don’t have any antirecon sub in my stack, but if I were to guess what it will be like, DRR3 is as close as it gets. DRR3’s effects + the short loop for WB make processing WB’s changes & guidance much easier.

Update 1:

It’s easier than the first 8s run, but something isn’t clicking with 8s, though it could also be because I didn’t sleep enough for the past 2 days (blame WB’s results for that :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:), so maybe it’s just that I’m a bit sleep deprived.

There’s nothing wrong with taking it slow though. I’m gonna go back to 5s next listening day, then increase it by 1s till 8s again. I want to see if it’s because of my sleep deprivation or if it’s from the sub, but I don’t want to take the risk either when it is completely unnecessary in case it’s not because of sleep deprivation.

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#1521

I slept well tonight.
The weight is not there anymore.
It’s clear now that it wasn’t the subs, I was just sleep deprived.

I’ll still not take any chances though, I’ll still go back down in exposure.

I was thinking more about this, then I looked back at my listening history and realized that the last time I ran WB was April 2024 for 1 cycle.

That was more than a year ago. The longer runs were even farther back in time.
Is it even possible that the “dormant scripting” was dormant & able to be excavated more than a year after?

Anyway, I was also using low exposure with the run in April, but I was using around 10-30s range.
This was when I figured out my max was 24s before lethargy recon started entering.
I actually forgot about the results. From my journal, it was good, but not as good as now.
If it were as good as now, I’d have remembered it well.

I think the difference between my approach to the sub now vs back then is how I gauge the playtime not just by recon, but also by how well I’m adapting to the sub.

Back then I started to feel lethargy recon at 24-30s, which has been a big no-no for me for the longest time since it is the only type of recon that directly goes against my main goals.
But it was also clear that I got overwhelmed by some of the changes back then, though I didn’t know it because I didn’t really pay attention back then. My focus was fully on my other priorities.

Ideally, I don’t have to do this and should be able to just blast 30m while still getting maximum results like I do with DRR3, but the reality is not. I get many recon from WB. That’s why I need to find the sweetspot that works best for me.

Now it is around 4-7s, and I clearly have better results than back then.
I think the key is to find the range that allows you to adapt to it the best.
So including how it affects you in life into the equation is just as important as monitoring the recon.

If you don’t get any significant recon, but you are too unclear about how to follow its changes & what it is trying to help you change in the first place, consider lowering the exposure until you find a level where it is starting to become workable. In normal cases, journaling & taking action should be enough, but in my case with WB, prioritizing this first & foremost clearly works better.

I also hadn’t touched DRR yet at that time.
So it shows how true DRR’s “boosting every other sub going forward” claim is.

#1522

When I just discovered SubClub, I figured that I know better than the creators and everyone here and would listen to 5+ subs all day long

Obviously, I didn’t get any results at the time and figured that the subs are BS

Yet, over the next year of rest from subs, I slowly but surely manifested a lot of objectives of the subs in my life, very easily, organically and without even realizing that it happened because of subs lol. So I’m pretty sure that the scripting can stay dormant until the necessary conditions to activate it are met (in my case it was a big break and actions that I took naturally)

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#1523

That’s enlightening.

I think Mogul is also doing just that for me, even after months of no exposure to it.
The changes are still there even after all this time, and sometimes I think some of the effects are still unlocking themselves even without the sub being in the stack.
These unlocks didn’t make sense to me, so I just chalked it off as being the result of DRR, or I’m just that good at what I do, rofl.

But now that you said that, these might have been Mogul’s work.
Some of the effects are already planted inside my mind, but they haven’t been able to fully express themselves. Just because I can’t see it, doesn’t mean they haven’t taken root & flourished in me.

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#1524

I was typing a long response as to why I think it’s a bit different scenario but I realized that it’s not haha

Anyway, I’ll still leave the response, maybe you will find it useful:

I think it’s different from my case. For me, it was just an extremely overfilled processing queue

But also, I’m quite sure that once you fully embody a certain state that the subs aim to bring you, you will just naturally start having results in that direction, so to speak. Kind of like a feedback loop

For example, in that crazy stack I used, I had Heartsong, which during that rest period manifested me a girlfriend of my dreams (meaning, she had every trait that I wanted in a girlfriend). Not only that, I’ve never had any relationships before, nor have I had any romantic interests - so it’s pretty clear to me that it’s Heartsong’s manifestation

Now It’s been more than 2 years, and to this day my relationships just get better and tick every objective from old Heartsong’s sales page (just used wayback machine to check old sales page).

Basically, once you’ve fully reprogrammed the mind and achieved objectives, positive results will lead to new positive results and just reinforce the programming

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#1525

Honestly, my first reaction is also “that’s kinda different”.
But when I think more about it, it is foundationally similar, lol.

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#1526

It is in a stack with WB.

I found that I can add another sub on top of what I listen that day, even with the stack being 2 full loops, as long as it’s not longer than 50s-1m.
That’s just me though, I can’t recommend it to others since we have different responses to the load.
I also run shorter cycles, which undoubtedly helps me with this.

I’m answering this here because I spread it too publicly, lol.
Don’t want saint/fire to reprimand me for giving people funny ideas.

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#1527

This is something i just overcame to making crazy large customs,listening everyday and only now deciding to do 5 day washouts instead of 3 day washouts

Cant even remember the last time i did a 5 day washout lol

#1528

DRR3 15m LE 15m WB 5s

Getting a bit distracted lately, I miss that raw boost to productivity. LE for a quick boost.

It doesn’t feel “not clicking” anymore after the second day. Normal great effects from WB as usual.
I’ve been slowly but surely adapting to the sub, with great results along the way.

Update 1:

WB’s effects are still clear with 5s.
The social guidance is obvious, easy to follow and manageable.

I’m also sleep deprived today, but I didn’t feel the “something is not clicking” like I did with 8s.
So I can rule out sleep deprivation as the cause. This most likely has to do with something in the 8s range.

LE is working well, I can feel the contrast before & after.

What to do with this data:

  • Keep WB’s loop length around 5-7s. There’s little reason to rush, as I’m getting the results that I want already. But insert 8s once in a while to check my progress on it. I’ll try at least 3-5 times every month.
  • I can use WB for 8s whenever I know I won’t be able to use its effects that day. The “something is not clicking” only stays for a day and disappears right after.
  • LE for emergency is a good idea. I’ll use it whenever I need a quick boost.

As for the difference in load between 30m of DRR3 vs 15m DRR3 + 15m LE, I can’t tell.
I’m too sleep deprived to make a sound judgment, lol.

WB, Mogul & UWX mainly.
I tried to be vague about their results from the beginning, but sometimes I get too excited and share too much. Mostly about when & how much changes happened at that time.

Well, can’t blame myself too much for being excited about lifechanging results.

Maybe LBFH & HeO too.
I’m sure I did well not talking in too much detail about their results, but I still gotta recheck it.

The first sweep of the journal was for redundant entries, the second for privacy.
WB takes priority because god knows I didn’t give a fuck for the last month.
The results were just that good.

Edit:
I just looked at the list of other journals and found out that this is one of the most viewed on the website. Well, I think I should pick an actual name instead of a random string of characters, rofl.
Maybe I’ll use William for my next name, I’ve never used it anywhere, and it has the same first letter as “winning”

@RVconsultant Excuse me, may I ask you to change the journal’s name to “William’s Winning Wayfare”? Thank you :relaxed:

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