Main Disc. Thread - Fire vs. Saint Round 4 [The Battle is On!]

#2338

not really, at lower listening duration you’d be getting more benefits if you aren’t ready for longer loops. Nothing to be patient about in my opinion

I ran lots of subs like Emperor, HOM, ASBR, EOG in the past with either full loops, or loops that are 5+ min and honestly barely made any considerable progress, just because I’d be drowning in recon (sometimes without noticing it) and wouldn’t have the energy to take action (because a lot of processing of info that I couldn’t integrate would waste a lot of my energy). I did have SOME results but they weren’t really life changing.

Now with 30-60s of AM and 3 min of RICH (built up from 30s) I’m getting more results and growing faster than with the subs above - just because I wasn’t ready to the concepts in them.

Maybe I’d be able to progress with those advanced subs too if I started with like 3-5s loops and would be doing 1s increases like Viktor but who knows. I might try this strategy with Stark Black next cycle, maybe it would work.

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#2339

I didn’t see Viktor’s post

#2340

The true old skool days were running a title for 12 hours :joy::joy::joy:

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#2341

Back in the day I got special speakers so that I could listen to ultrasonic overnight. Now I just listen to a couple of minutes of masked with cheap headphones.

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#2342

One thing about this is you are more precisely able to indicate when you are heading into overexposure territory or when you are hitting your sweet spot due to far less compression. One loop would probably process instantly and then you do the next one if you feel like it. Basing your listening schedule on instant impressions as it would not have that lag or delay in processing-reconciliation-results as such.

Overexposure back then was probably not much of a thing.

But listening to only a few minutes is far more convenient none has the time to sit down and listen to subliminal audios all day.

Probably as technology evolves this whole processing-recon-results cycle becomes automatically enhanced and optimised to function well in the human system without causing life disrupting side effects.

Frictionless transformation, yay!

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#2343

Most of it is in my journal :wink:

Since we are talking about my results, I believe it’s important that I add more context to it.

The method

Yes. I do +1s every listening day with WB starting from 2s, though i plan to take it even slower at +1s every 2 listening days.

It’s not set in stone either, I allow myself to go back down in playtime if i feel it’s too much for my taste like when I first reached 8s, it didn’t feel right yet so i reset it back to 4s.

Honestly, sometimes I doubt my results with less than 10s of WB.

It feels impossible that the sub can be this powerful at just this short exposure, but these are the same results i got from WB when i ran it longer, if not stronger. The difference this time is it is significantly better because the recon is manageable & negligible. This enhances the results greatly, the sub turned from a rough & overwhelming one into a gentle & easy to follow one. It’s also not kitchensink-y anymore, which was one of my main problems with WB back then. it fits my life perfectly now.

I’ve ran WB for many cycles so i know what WB results are, how the recon feels like, etc.

This is WB.

No other subs in my arsenal manifest things like this.

I have DRR3 for 30m in my stack too, but i know these are not the results from it alone because didn’t get these effects with DRR3 before I added WB to the stack.

My theories about why it is working so well even with such low exposure.
  • It could be that just a few seconds was enough to wake up the dormant scripting that has already been installed by my WB runs back then.
  • The few seconds of WB i play could be enough to modify/influence/hijack DRR3 to bend its focus towards WB’s goals instead.

I’ve run short loops before. I know it works. But I’m still surprised at how well WB does this time around. It’s not a fluke either. The results are consistent. The ones i got from when I used longer exposure was spotty in comparison. I think it shows by just how much I talk about WB in my journal lately.

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Viktor’s Victory Venture (LE + DRR)
#2344

Or maybe it’s just that such a short exposure is just right for your current development in regards to WB goals?

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#2345

Yeah, maybe it’s just that straightforward, lol.

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#2346

I think its this one

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#2347

Yea I think same that it just triggers the memory of the full loops just like how running some program that removes subconscious blockages can suddenly have you get results from programs you ran in the past

#2348

I play every track for ten seconds to avoid recon and it’s been working well

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#2349

Back in the old days i smashed out 12 to 13 loops

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#2350

I am restarting my first 21 day cycle of GLM , Emperor, and Limitless today with 15 second loops

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Main Disc. Thread - The NEW Godlike Masculinity (Free Upgrade! Now Available! Custom Core Available!)
#2351

@SaintSovereign Something I was thinking about this morning which I’m not sure has been brought up before is I’m 57 and even though I’m doing 15 second microloops at the moment I’m also trying to be realistic and patient about seeing results and that it could take a bit longer for someone who is my age compared to someone who is significantly younger than I am to see results? Does that make sense?

I use the analogy that James Clear used in Atomic Habits about Bamboo trees and how they spend a significant period of time building an extensive root system before shooting up 90 feet in the air in a matter of weeks.

Because of my current reality and life experience there may be a massive amount of work that needs to be done subconsciously that I don’t and probably won’t see until weeks or months from now when I maybe wake up one day or something clicks and the shift has begun

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Not Sure What to call this :metal:
#2352

I remember playing khan blacj stage 1 and genesis mogul at only 30s and still recieving noticeble results

#2353

Don’t put such restrictions upon yourself by age and what all I would say. You can also see it in the way that you have more life experience under your belt, more knowledge, more developed skills, more etc

Everyone is capable of getting phenomenal results irrelevant of age and other factors if they believe they do. The main factor is more like the believe that something new can happen.

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#2354

@James

When Harland Sanders was 65, most people thought he should be slowing down. Instead, he got his first Social Security check for $105… and realized he couldn’t live on it. So, with nothing but a fried chicken recipe, a battered pressure cooker, and a white suit, he started knocking on doors to sell his idea.

He was rejected 1,009 times before someone said “yes.” By his 70s, Colonel Sanders had turned that yes into a worldwide brand, KFC.

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#2355

Another cool tidbit about the Colonel Sanders story is when he finally found a bar willing to give the recipe a chance, the bar owner said he’d use the The Colonels’ recipe as long as they could put salt on the chicken. To make bar patrons more thirsty.

Sanders disliked that, but was desperate for money so put his ego aside add that 11th spice (Salt). The rest is history.

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#2356

@SaintSovereign - any news from Fire regarding New Wanted?

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#2357

And new stark

Might be starting a job in my family buisness and i want to help out,feel like stark could help