Viktor’s Victory Venture (LE + DRR)

[Viktor]

@Azriel

Were you running Mogul alongside Hero?

Yes, HeO is always in my stack so I got to run it together with Mogul a lot.

@Azriel

Did they update this already?

They planned to. More rest scripting, more balancing, + the new anti recon scripting.

[anon1637736]

@Viktor

DRR2

I think you can consider using DRR3 at some point

[Viktor]

I do!

I want to move to DRR3&4 during the 3 month break from DRR1.
But I gotta refresh some of DRR2 first, hence the half a month of it in May.

0.5 month of DRR2
1 month of DRR3
1.5 month of DRR4

Then I’ll go back to DRR1 for 4 months.

I want to see the “looking from above” effect from DRR3.
The last cleansing before they all get united in DRR4.

[anon1637736]

Oh I see! That’s cool.
After I finish DRR I want to refresh Khan Black at some point.
Got to stage 3 but it was too intense and need to take another round of KB starting from Stage 1.

But that will be 4-6 months from now

[Viktor]

@Viktor

@SaintSovereign

Inner Circle: Brotherhood

I might opt for this instead of Mogul for the feel good sub slot in the stack.

Wait, no.
I can just make a name embedded major for ICB with NWE.
I get the best of both worlds. The feel good from ICB and the small boost of money from NWE.

I could make a custom instead, but I want the “fun sub” to be as light as possible.

[Viktor]

@Fractal_Explorer

Also genuine question. Who among you can check off every objective on a standard title after running it long term?

Bringing this here so it doesn’t derail saint’s journal.

I did with LBFH.
Wrote about it somewhere here or in the product’s thread.

[Jouissance]

@Viktor

looking at subzero’s argument, it is interesting to see the possibility that the anti-recon scripting not only deals with the early stages of acclimating with the sub but also to gain faster from it after you’re done with all the recon, if there’s any to begin with.

So, is the anti-recon scripting not just anti-recon, but also a result enhancer AFTER the recon phase is completely over?

Definitely. Huge results enhancer IMHO. The recon helps you get the result. You learn from the recon much faster.

[Jouissance]

Like my story of a date gone bad (she had BPD)

but then that leading me to researching and understanding a life long habit of dating women with BPD

And now having a clear list of how to notice and avoid that

[Viktor]

A Chorus Has Risen (SaintSovereign Journal)

The thing is, getting the sub to hit harder & deeper can be achieved just by using the subs long enough. I rarely care about how fast it hits though. Low recon is the top priority. if it takes me a few cycles more than other people would, but it gives me the least recon possible, I’ll gladly take that as I have with most subs I’ve ever used. Having more features is actually most beneficial for us who use subs long term. The longer we listen to it, the more we can unearth the features. I th…

Yeah, Let’s continue here, lol.
I realized it was going to be a huge text wall on saint’s journal halfway through.
Edit - Nevermind, I thought I was gonna write a whole ass paragraph after that, but it ended up being only 2 lines, lol.

@Jouissance

Definitely. Huge results enhancer IMHO. The recon helps you get the result. You learn from the recon much faster.

That’s learning from recon though, I’m interested in the boost it can potentially give me for subs like Mogul, HeO, LE, DRR1. Ones that I get 0 recon from.

@Jouissance

Like my story of a date gone bad (she had BPD)

but then that leading me to researching and understanding a life long habit of dating women with BPD

And now having a clear list of how to notice and avoid that

That’s a whole roller coaster, rofl.
I wonder what a romance sub will change in my preference/who I attract too.

[Jouissance]

@Viktor

I wonder what a romance sub will change in my preference/who I attract too.

I’ve always attracted BPD women even pre subs

[RVconsultant]

Maybe this would help:

https://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Personalities-Profiler-Identify-Yourself/dp/1635653363

[Parsifal]

So did you consider HeO: Anti-recon module?

[Viktor]

Not at all currently.

Saint said the update for HeO will come near the release of the new HERO title, which will come in this year.

I need to take a 1 month break from HeO too.
So I’m not in a rush to get the anti-recon.

[Parsifal]

Oh, you reached 1111 posts in your journal.

Still, I’d be very curious if the HeO veteran would run this.

If I see this correctly, there are 4 options

1. Keep running regular HeO
2. Switching to new HeO once it’s released
3. Switching to HeO Multistage once it’s released
4. Testing OG HeO: Anti-Recon

I don’t want to push you (I feel like I need to say this, although a part of me feels like pushing you), but I’m really curious about the effect this could have.
This is real scientific curiosity.
You’re experiencing no more recon on HeO, IIRC.
You’re getting great results from HeO.

So what would happen if you add anti recon tech? Is SubZero right and you’ll get not only less recon bet even better and faster results?

Sorry, I feel like I shouldn’t want to push you, but excitement and curiosity is just to strong

[Viktor]

@Parsifal

Oh, you reached 1111 posts in your journal.

This journal used to have 1.2k+, rofl.
I’m currently cleaning the low quality entries.
It’s going super slowly though since we’re limited to only 10 deletes a day.

@Parsifal

Switching to HeO Multistage once it’s released

I’m banking more on this than HeO’s update coming soon.
The new HERO title is pretty much confirmed to come soon.
But HeO coming alongside it has only been mentioned once by saint.

@Parsifal

You’re experiencing no more recon on HeO, IIRC.
You’re getting great results from HeO.

No recon at all.
It’s as smooth as Mogul & DRR1 but not invisible like them.

The results are insane.
HeO is the best sub in the store, bar none.

@Parsifal

So what would happen if you add anti recon tech? Is SubZero right and you’ll get not only less recon bet even better and faster results?

I’m REALLY hoping he’s right.
His arguments expanded my scope of what might be possible from the new scripting.

It really screams “limit destroyer” / “adaptability enhancer”.
That can substantially increase the speed of the changes.

I’m fine if it ended up not being like that though.
DRR1 + HeO is already a killer combo.
DRR1 is a potent holistic limit destroyer & adaptability enhancer on its own.

@Parsifal

Sorry, I feel like I shouldn’t want to push you, but excitement and curiosity is just to strong

No worries, lol.
I’m as excited as you are.

[Viktor]

I’m in the middle of a washout and I can tell for certain that the subtle overload is disappearing.
13 on 4 off is not sustainable. Either 11 on 4 off or 13 on 5 off.
If i had used 13 on 4 off one after another, I’d get an overload for sure.

That’s a good find. My intuition was right all along.

[Viktor]

I’m gonna start the break for HeO early too.
I’m not taking any chances with 0.5 month of DRR2 next month.

1.5 months break from HeO.
3.5 months break from DRR1
I plan to use DRR4 later for 1.5 months. Since it has a part of DRR1 in it, the break can be counted as only 2-3 months.

It’s time for solo LE for the remainder of this month.
It’s overkill, but i want to take out as many variables that could increase the burden on top of DRR2’s recon as possible.

[Viktor]

Please Help Pick The Best Healing Sub For A Newbie

I come from the far side of “no overload at all cost” as it allows me to focus on my goals. So my approach is more on the side of caution. My sweetspot is 2 subs. Using 3 subs with equal exposure feels too convoluted. But I don’t shy away from 3. The strategy that I found works best for me is to use the first 2 subs normally, and only use the third 2-4 times a month. It’s as comfortable as using only 2 without as much burden of using 3 equally. I also arrange them in a priority hierarchy. …

Writing this got me thinking.

One of the biggest reasons I can stick to subs for a long time is simply because I’ve already achieved most of what I wanted in life. It also helps that I didn’t keep moving the goalpost after that.
I have the kinds of struggles that I want to deal with, enjoyments that I care about, people that I want in life etc.

I already have most of what I want.
Subs are just a lubricant/grease to help me enjoy life even more with its ups and downs.
That’s why I rarely got a dire need towards using other subs.

Most of what subs can potentially give me, I either already have or I can just do it by myself.
Here is where HeO comes in. It is the only sub that I can’t just do on my own. It showed me another layer of fulfilment that I can’t yet achieve by myself.

That’s why sticking with HeO is the easiest choice I have. DRR1 is also an easy pick since it is a holistic booster that enhances the results of other subs like no other. My plan with other subs in the store is to increase what’s already above my goals, it’s to attain excess on top of excess. It’s different with HeO, I can’t achieve that level without the sub yet.

LBFH used to be like HeO too, but I’ve finally reached the level I like without having to use the sub anymore after around a year of use total.

Maybe one of the biggest keys to stick with a sub is to be content with what you have in the first place.
Prioritize 1 goal at a time. Slowly bring it up until you get it to a satisfactory level. Then choose another goal next.

[bujin]

@Viktor

I’ve already achieved most of what I wanted in life.

I’m in the same situation, I already achieved virtually everything I wanted before I found SC. But at my age (52) and having done that it’s easy to become content and start to slow down and cruise towards retirement. I’ve certainly thought about it, it has a certain attraction, but that way lies stagnation and gradual decay. That desire for personal growth and self exploration that was a key driver in my earlier years in still there. Back then it was mostly through traveling and living in different countries and exploring new cultures, and also using that to drive my career forward. These last few years I’ve basically settled down so these subs are a great way for me to maintain a level of transformation and growth.

[Viktor]

I can’t imagine taking retirement ever.

Striving to be better is the joy of my life.
I have the kinds of struggles that i want to go through. Struggles towards what I care about, for those i care about.

The more i achieve, the more i realize the struggles don’t go away, they become different. I’d never want to go back to the struggles i had back then, endlessly forced to do things i don’t care about. The kinds of endless striving i have now in contrast is way better. These, with their ups & downs, are what i want.

I don’t know what will happen a few decades from now though. Maybe there’ll come a time when i’d want to stop & settle down.
Honestly, that thought scares me a bit, that’s one of the reasons i live as healthily as possible. So i can be at/near my peak as long as i can.

@bujin

retirement. I’ve certainly thought about it, it has a certain attraction, but that way lies stagnation and gradual decay.

As they say, you retire you expire.

I’ve seen insane decay from people who chose to retire.
It comes faster than people expect.

I think the perfect retirement for me is one where i don’t go on a full rest all day, but a semi-retirement where i still manage some things but with reduced capacity.