It’s harder without RM:UWX.
But I can do this.
I don’t need to add another variable into the stack.
I’m enough.
I just need to stick earnestly with healing & productivity in 2025.
Then i’ll be able to enjoy the creativity stack in 2026.
Maybe i’m just being lazy and searching for a shortcut.
I know i’m not lacking in this, i just need to broaden my horizon.
It’s time to research & experiment.
Stack condition: hanging by a thin line. 
The new AHJ is almost exactly what I expected it to be.
A more streamlined version of what I need from LBFH to combat the recon from DRR2.
Just look at these:
It handles both my need for purpose scripting to combat DRR2’s recon AND it addresses my complaint about the imbalance of productivity when I use LBFH.
It also has a “sharing” scripting. I’m sure it’s not like LBFH, but this is what I want. It’s my weakness and LBFH taught me how valuable it is to embrace it. This description sealed the deal for me.
There are a lot of scripting that’s useful for my meditation practise too
It also has a bit of creativity scripting in it to top it off. I know it won’t be as good as the RM products, but it’s good to know that there’s something in that direction.
My stack is so fucked.
DRR2 9m LBFH 3m30s
PLEASE NO RECON
PLEASE NO RECON
PLEASE NO RECON
I CAN’T AFFORD A RECON NOW
The recon is done.
So it takes 3-4 days.
It’s better than before, maybe I can pull off DRR2 once every week.
But I’m not gonna risk it. Twice a month only.
LBFH 15m LE 15m AC 7s
I haven’t used full loops for a while.
Why don’t I test it again.
Hello this is Viktor.
I plan to use LE + DRR1 in the middle of next year.
While using that stack, i also want to chip away my recon from DRR2.
So i plan to use DRR2 twice every month — once every 15 days — alongside the stack.
I have virtually 0 recon from both LE & DRR1 and I’ve used them for months. So i’m quite confident with this plan.
But i know stacking both stages is a big no-no. That’s why i want to know from support’s perspective, is this plan completely doomed to fail? Or is there a wiggle room for me to experiment considering the infrequency of DRR2 in it?
Hello,
Thank you for reaching out and sharing your plan! It’s great to see you approaching this with such thoughtfulness and confidence based on your experience with LE and DRR1.
From a support perspective, using DRR2 twice a month, spaced out by 15 days, may provide some wiggle room for experimentation, especially since you’ve reported virtually no reconciliation with LE and DRR1. The infrequency of DRR2 could allow your mind time to process without overwhelming it.
That said, we do recommend caution when mixing stages, as the scripting in DRR2 is designed to focus on different goals compared to DRR1, and reconciliation may arise from conflicting objectives. Pay close attention to how you feel after incorporating DRR2. If you notice any discomfort or prolonged reconciliation, it might be worth adjusting your plan.
Ultimately, every individual’s experience is unique, and a balanced, mindful approach like yours is key. Let us know how it works for you or if you have any other questions along the way! We’re always happy to help!
Best regards,
SubClub
Plan approved, Moving the date for the customs to mid 2026.
I noticed that I didn’t get the motivation boost anymore after I stopped using DRR1.
I thought that was from LE.
Was it DRR1 unlocking this effect from LE?
On second thought, why am I limiting myself to only 2 years for healing, creativity & productivity?
A solid foundation will have a bigger payoff in the future.
Why don’t I extend the plan?
1.5 years of DRR1,2,3
2 years of DRG
1 year of DRR4
with LE for 4 years and UA from whenever it’s updated.
I’m not rushing for anything sub-wise.
There are other subs that I want to use like AS & ME, but they can wait.
I also have enough wealth, social life etc that I don’t desperately need a sub to prop them up.
It only makes sense to invest in a solid foundation.
After looking at the timeline again, this makes a lot more sense.
I’ll be here for a lifetime. It’s better to structure the plan to get the most out of SC for the long run throughout my lifespan than to approach it haphazardly, swinging from one sub to another, getting results that will be lost when a new shiny sub appears.
Focus on long term changes.
The longer I use a sub, the longer the changes will stick.
Since you’re one of the foremost experts on HeO, do you think the virtue scripting could work for sales?
I don’t know if you have any experience with sales at all, my reasoning was just that I know I’m selling the best product on the market, and every potential customer could profit extremely if he bought my product. But still, I can’t get myself to do the job with passion (I’m getting a grasp of the reasons for this slowly).
So I thought, since not reaching out and offering our product is basically failure to render assistance, so the virtue scripting might push me in this direction…
The skills scripting is probably helpful as well, but I was mostly inspired by your virtue spot above.
Honestly, I’m not sure if HeO is what you need.
I’m passionate about what I do first, and then HeO enhances that passion & devotion to an absurd degree. I know what I provide will benefit them a fuck ton and I’m personally passionate about seeing my customers enjoy, live & thrive with them. If you haven’t found that connection between those two yet then using HeO is more of a gamble.
If you want to use HeO for this reason, be sure the reason comes internally from yourself.
Use HeO if you genuinely want them to profit extremely from your products.
Think twice if it’s only a logical justification to increase your passion.
Just because what you offer is objectively helpful for other’s well being, doesn’t mean the virtues from HeO will manifest in that direction. The virtues are unique to you.
This is where the gamble lies. If you haven’t found that “calling” yet, in the worst case, it might lead you to an improvement separate from the sales job altogether, which later you have to hold back to retain your focus - this is a similar situation that happened with some subs I’ve used.
But I’m sure you can experiment with HeO if you want.
Sales is not really my field of expertise. I can’t be compared to a seasoned salesman.
It just so happens that I’ve never really needed to go deeper into it myself in every field I’ve been in.
But I still often take part in it.
HeO’s help was really indirect.
I didn’t feel that much increase in my actual sales skills, I wasn’t focusing on it after all.
But I know It has helped me one way or another. I was also stacking HeO with Mogul & RM:UWX here and there, so it was obvious when some aspects of HeO played a part in their wealth manifestations.
LE 2m LBFH 7m30s AC 8s
It has been 2 days. No significant recon from 15m of DRR2.
It’s safe to say that there won’t be any recon from it.
This is the last day of LBFH. AHJ next year.
AC +1s every listening day, 4 times a month is working fine.
I still can’t get over the symptoms of overexposure from using a long loop of AC.
It has been almost 2 years. AC is just a tough nut to crack.
Update 1:
Now I understand why Ascension & Emperor are the progressions before DR.
Those subs are about personal power, viewing things from the lens of power, inside & outside.
That was what I lacked, which caused the recon from DRR2.
It could be worse though.
I would be fucked from both ends if I didn’t spend time using HeO & LBFH before this.
Now that I looked back, I spent:
~12 cycles straight on HeO
~12 cycles total on LBFH
~10 cycles total on Mogul
1 cycle = 26 days, regardless of where the washout is located.
HeO & LBFH are shy of 1 year since a year has ~14 cycles.
So far their effects are the only ones that stuck.
Their effects are not as strong as when I actively use them, but they have changed me as a person. It’s hard to see myself reverting back to how I was before I use them.
The effects & changes from the other ones like WB, RM:UWX, Exp RM:V, and DRLD are all either extremely subtle or downright unnoticeable anymore.
I used all of them for only around 4 cycles.
That means 3-4 months is not enough for long term changes.
If I had spent an extra 2-4 cycles on each one, I’d have a better, more long lasting outcome now.
Well, that’s 1.5 years spent experimenting with a smaller amount of cycles.
Now I’m even more sure that a real change requires more.
at least 6 - 9 months is my guess.
Sorry idk where I saw this but I read you’re sticking to ST2 of The Mind Illuminated?
This is mentioned in the book as not the way to go.
Once you’ve had an experience of the meditation in stage 2 being easy, go to stage 3, learn what’s in there, and then alternate between stages 2 and 3 depending on your state and attention that day.
There is absolutely no benefit to sticking to ST2.
Oh fuck i missed that from the book.
Thanks for reminding me.
My thought pattern was “the benefit i got from stage 2 is enough to support what i want, so i don’t see why i should go to the next stage. I can spend time focusing on it even more before advancing”.
But if the guide literally says that it’s not good, then I may as well follow the expert’s advice.
DRR2 3m AHJ 20s
There’s recon.
It could be from DRR2, AHJ or both.
The recon now is “avoidance”.
There are also subtle hints of the usual “power” recon from DRR2.
I’m sure that this is a recon because, like usual, the source is from deep inside, it shakes & bypasses the defense & structure of my mind and it just feels distinct from normal negative feelings.
I’m glad I chose to lower the exposure & use slow microloop.
Update 1:
Solved the “power” recon again by taking a walk while doing an introspection.
I guess the fix to recon from DRR2 is just that.
It’s the same thing. That means I just need to prepare time to do that whenever i listen to DRR2.
There’s still the usual tiny subtle recon.
It’s never really a problem as long as i lower the listening frequency.
Once every 7-8 days should be small enough.
The more I use DRR2, the closer I get to the true balance between what the sub is helping me become and what I truly want to be.
I’m keeping an open mind on what DRR2 shows to me.
If it makes me want to embrace being something, I oblige and fully immerse myself in it.
Seeing the extreme helps me decide whether I want to go more in that direction, adjust it down or both.
So far, I like where DRR2 is bringing me towards in terms of internal power and the projection of it.
It’s working well. I like what I see.
I just have to increase the frequency of use very slowly until I reach once every other day.
Update 2:
Wow, i didn’t expect that manifestation.
DRR2 is strong.
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Note to self:
Be persistent & serious.
No punishment nor rewards.Experiment on these.
Update 3:
There’s a hint of extra happiness in what I do, in discovering things, in living life.
For now, it only shows up sparsely. I wonder how it will be once I’ve been using AHJ longer.
I begin to feel it again.
That distinct lack of fulfilment.
It’s the reason why I started using LBFH a few months ago.
This happening now, when I’m not as busy as I was back then confirms that I falsely attributed being too busy after going so hard with LE as one of the reasons for the feeling of lacking.
This is not a work life balance problem, this is a recon.
A recon that was just so conveniently solved by LBFH.
That means using a third sub, like LBFH, is enough to fix the problem.
I need to ramp up AHJ’s exposure. AHJ is the fulfilment sub.
It would be strange if AHJ couldn’t solve it.
This means I can go hard at focusing on productivity again.
It’s now clear that my obsession wasn’t the problem.
It took 2 months to figure out, but at least now I know.
I’m glad there’s AHJ. If there’s no AHJ, I’d only know about this after I used LBFH for half a year.
Contrast is one of the best ways to understand recon, and most importantly, myself.
With that out of the way, EB is now back on the table again.
I don’t need to be afraid of work life balance anymore.
I can get back to how I usually am, focusing on work.
If EB is updated in the fourth quarter of this year, I’ll try to use it.
I got the “reliving the past” effect again.
It’s similar to what I got from RM:UWX.
The difference is now I’m viewing them from a different angle.
I’m effortlessly reframing them / just see them from a different perspective altogether.
All seemingly building up towards giving me better foundations for my inner power.
DRR2 is completely different after I gained clarity about its recon.
It’s all about “power”. Inside and outside.
Using DRR2 2-3 times a month gave me more than when I forced myself to run it once every other day.
Could also be AoH recon causing the lack of fulfillment.
And by recon, I mean “realization….”
You need to experience and realize your lack of fulfillment before you have the intrinsic drive to fix it, right?
Just like how before people become powerful on The Will To Power, they realize where they’re being manipulated… and how before people become dominant on Khan, they see all the shit tests that people are using to steal dominance and confidence from them (which they never noticed before)
It could be, but i believe it was from DRR2.
It felt exactly the same as what i felt back then before I added LBFH.
It was also reduced when i solved the recon about “power” from DRR2 by doing an introspection.
Which means there’s a connection between them.
The recon felt as if the joy of my life was yanked out from the inside.
It felt like a part of me, and the life of people that I care about are being taken out of my life, as if their existence were erased, dead. No, as if they never existed/alive at all in this world. It genuinely felt worse than actually seeing people around me dead.
It was nonsense since we are objectively still alive and well.
But that’s just how a significant recon feels like.
A great dissonance. Something that’s taken away from your life and you have no clue about why, suffering with no realization in sight until you figure out the clarity behind the recon.
But once i gain clarity, the recon always goes significantly lower
I’ll try to dig more into this, i gotta gain clarity & realization about the cause of the recon if want to resolve it faster.
It was solved simply by stacking it with LBFH, and the exact same “lack of fulfilment” recon came back after i stopped using it. Looking at the objective list for LBFH seems to be a good way to start.
LE 15m AHJ 30s
LE full loop.
I can go back to focusing on productivity again after I switched LBFH with AHJ.
If I notice better results then I will drop the microloop altogether.
That moment where you just sit & stare blankly beside your bed and say “fuck I’m so tired I don’t want to keep going…” yet you know that you’ll triumph over it given enough time.
I begin to feel “the inner power to just say fuck it & do it anyway” happening faster & more effortlessly.
This is similar to what I felt with DRLD & DRR1.
I bet this is from getting the recon from DRR2 resolved + LE.
The result is the same, but the characteristics of the underlying mechanism that drives it are different.
DRLD feels like you do it because the limits are already broken or you want to break them.
DRR1 feels so passive yet holistic as if a good chunk of the hurdles & struggles never existed. I could push forward as if it were the most natural thing to do.
DRR2 + LE feels like it comes from my inner power. As if I’m taking the reign over my own life.
I didn’t expect DRR1 & DRR2 to be this different.
I can’t wait to see what DRR4 will be like, but that’s still a few years from now.
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Or maybe because I was not as tired last month, lol.
This month will be perfect to find out the real answer.
DRR2’s recon has significantly subsided, LE is not hindered by LBFH anymore, and I’ll be stupidly busy for the next 3-4 months.
Since I can focus on productivity again after I’ve switched out of LBFH, I’ll cut out social media again.
That means forum is also on pause, again.
I tried cutting out social media 2-3 months ago, but DRR2’s lack of fulfilment recon forced me to get out of it. Now that it’s mostly over & figured out, I can attempt the optimization again.
Journaling will be stopped for a bit, but I believe finding clarity about “power” was enough to resolve DRR2’s recon going forward.
I’ll still visit the forum one or two times a month since saint said LE will be updated this spring.