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#113

So, how does ASBR with NWE work- you accomplish ASBR goals of visionary, resilient force for nature through wealth?

Saint mentioned recently that NWE is absolutely unnecessary in customs with any subs that have heavy wealth scripting and is no…so my NWE in HOM/ASBR custom is redundant.

Support said NWE with Wanted would turn Wanted objective more towards financial gain and business -it would apply the Wanted nature to wealth/finance/business

I think I know, and then I don’t

@SaintSovereign I believe a support article on NSE experience would be incredibly helpful for all these distinctions and combinations

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#114

I think it was Fire that mentioned that WB + NWE would make you gain wealth through WB objectives. For example as Gigolo or Model.

Using this on SB would mean you become rich through the objectives of SB aka becoming a successful entrepreneur.
That’s why it’s unnecessary with wealth titles that already have NSE scripting.

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#115

Ugh this whole thing is so confusing i don’t even try to know anymore :sob: :rofl:

Everything @Parsifal said is true but also it sounds like it enhances the existing wealth scripting that’s already in the script itself. And adds NWE to modules.

But then other times they’re talking about adding NWE to a wealth module script and they say “that scripting is already in (wealth title) so no need to add NWE”

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#116

NWE Core has all the NSE wealth scripting they’ve come up with.
Major Titles with NSE scripting have only the NWE scripting thats necessary for what is covered in the script.

Imagine you hire a gardener to create a new garden for you. He offers to give you a special manual on how to care for the different flowers so they unfold and bloom.
One is free and slim and covers only the flowers he’s going to plant. The other you have to pay, but it’s way bigger and it covers all the flowers.
So if you decide to add flowers on your own, this book has you covered.

In this metaphor the Gardener is Q, the Garden your custom, the small booklet is NWE scripting in the major title, and the big one being the NWE Core.

But I agree. It’s still a very confusing topic.

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#117

Not anymore.

That’s perfectly explained now.

Thank you

#118

Good idea.

In the meantime, a short explanation that hopefully won’t confuse anyone even more. NWE, NRE, NDE – all of them contains the same scripting as the NSE, just tailored toward that topic rather than being general and universal.

So, all the features of the NSE (which includes anti-recon, integration of experiences, daily positive experiences), except the scripting is directed specifically at wealth (in the case of the NWE, for example).

That’s why you may not need to include NWE in a custom with ASBR and other wealth titles with the NWE. You’d be doubling up on scripting that’s already there. Now, there is a benefit for including the NWE. If you specifically want to ramp up the daily positive manifestations and the such for whatever reason, then it would be beneficial to include it. But for most people’s purposes, if you’re making a custom that includes cores with the NWE, I would save that slot for something else.

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#119

I did tons of personal research on this topic. Starting with collecting multiple articles & relevant posts and fed them to A.I

This is what i got, which i believe it to be at least 90% accurate

Think of NSE like a tree.

  • You are the soil.
  • The title (like Emperor or ASBR) is the species—each grows differently.
  • The branches are things like NWE, NLE, NRE—wealth, learning, romance—but how they grow depends on the tree and your soil.

So:

  • Emperor’s NSE unfolds through sovereignty and empire.
  • ASBR’s unfolds through Fame & Innovation.
    Same branches, different trees.

Titles made close together—like Primal and Primal Seduction—are from the same seed line. Their trees grow in sync, so they stack smoothly.

Now, if you add an NWE Core to Emperor (which already has its own NWE as part of its NSE), you’re not changing the tree.
You’re adding a second layer of unfolding—a refined lens that shapes all wealth-related growth, including Emperor’s native modules.

Result? Both systems feed each other. The tree grows fuller, faster, and with more fruit—but it’s still your tree, rooted in your truth.

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#120

How would this work with NREE?

All the scripting is directed at… result enhancement? What does that even look like haha

#121

@SaintSovereign thanks for the explanation.

Just to make sure this is complete, I want to make sure I understand it in context.

Does the NWE latch onto existing wealth scripting in a title, or does it add wealth scripting no matter the topic of the title?

The reason I ask is because I want to understand theoretically whether or not adding NWE to Love Bomb (as an example) would just be a total dud because it modifies existing wealth scripting, or if the mechanism is more along the lines of adding wealth scripting, therefore making LB/NWE have some sort of weirdo benefit.

If you could explain what LB + NWE would do that’d be interesting.

But totally get the point around not adding NWE to ASBR.

NWE in a custom with ASBR would still enhance the modules, right?

If I made a custom with ASBR + NWE as the two cores, would it be more effective to add in wealth modules like synergy: the golden one? Or would it be better to add the non-wealth modules that I want to utilize for wealth purposes (alpha body language, direct influencing aura, tale of the dragon, mastermind, etc)

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#122

Wow
Does the Nse core got upgraded when you upgraded the anti recon tech?

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#124

@SaintSovereign

2nding this inquiry

My True Sell/RICH/ NWE custom I will get daily positive manifestations of wealth to support True Sell and RICHes goals of selling and earning big income, which makes sense-

In HOM/ASBR/NWE, will the NWE contribute to a more positive manifestation of wealth in sales, or is it overkill?

My custom with HOM/ASBR/NWE has definitely improved my already great sales performance, but maybe there is a cost to the double NWE. The sub does feel very narrow in its scope and execution…of course, my life is blossoming holistically overall, and my attention is narrowed as well, but what is the advantage to no NWE- is the focus to much on experience and less on the non -NWE elements -longer term goals/outcome?

#125

It does both. It has a bit of your basic wealth scripting, but it’s main focus is to latch onto and enhance whatever else is in the stack that deals with wealth (for the NWE). NRE does the same thing, except for romance, for example.

I forgot to mention:

We released the various NSE cores for two reasons. First, if your custom has a core in it that’s a bit outdated, you could manually add the NSE to it. Two, if you wanted to double down on that scripting. When we say, “no need to add the NWE,” it’s because it’s already very prominent in the core itself. Like EoG, for example. No need to add NWE to a custom with that core because it’s already so very prominent in the actual core.

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#126

It would help in this situation, since ASBR currently has “proto-NSE” scripting, but not the latest version. So, the NWE would latch onto both and enhance the wealth results of both titles.

Bit confused about the question, but in this situation, there’s no disadvantage with including the NWE other than the fact that it takes up a slot.

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#127

No you totally answered it. It would still enhance the wealth results of both titles.

The disadvantage would be taking up a slot.

I meant those subs have goals less focused on wealth- relations, legacy, innovation- so it may compromise those results for their own sake where they don’t feed into wealth. Or simply turn the benefits there towards financial gain

@Plutus the clarification here, may be supportive for you.

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#128

Yeah – in that case, there’s no wealth scripting to latch on, so you’d get the results of a very, very light wealth core. Probably better modules / cores, but you’d still get the other benefits of the NSE as a whole (daily positive manifestations, noticing of synchroncity, mental and emotional integration, etc.).

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#129

Best sub for porn and PMO addiction atm (recommended over khan black which is an updated recommendation)

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#130

I asked support about modules

Support

Great questions! Let me provide in-depth explanations for each module you asked about.

Power Talk

Power Talk helps you master the deepest principles of verbal power dynamics. Every word and sentence carries massive subtext – Power Talk develops your understanding of these underlying principles and how to use them expertly.

Focus: Strictly and extremely deeply on power talk itself – the structures, the words, and their deepest meanings

Best For: Anyone needing complete verbal mastery in high-stakes situations (negotiations, leadership, politics, influence)

Synergy: Works potently with Power Can Corrupt (now Will to Power) – together they create exceptional synergy

Application: Master the subtleties of speech at the highest level – understand what’s really being said beneath surface words

Lifeblood Fable

Your reputation is the lifeblood of success in business, romance, and politics. Lifeblood Fable helps you actively shape your reputation in any direction you desire.

Key Feature: Shape reputation for SPECIFIC skills/values – not just general reputation

Examples: Reputation as a profound spiritual teacher, powerful business magnate, irresistible seducer, master of a specific craft

Best For: Anyone whose success depends on reputation and social proof (entrepreneurs, professionals, leaders, public figures)

Application: Actively craft how you’re perceived in your field while improving your overall reputation in beneficial ways

Safety Net

Creates both a practical safety net in your life AND frees your mind from worry about safety and security.

Dual Function:

  1. Manifests supportive influences that will be there if things don’t go according to plan
  2. Minimizes worry and insecurity about safety

Best For: Entrepreneurs, risk-takers, anyone building something new, those transitioning between life phases

Application: Provides psychological freedom to take calculated risks while building actual support systems

Secret Source

Helps you discover untapped opportunities for continuous, rising wealth – especially unorthodox sources you might not have considered.

Focus: Finding multiple streams of income and wealth sources waiting for you

Best For: Entrepreneurs, side hustlers, anyone seeking additional income streams

Application: Stay open-minded to unconventional opportunities – your secret sources will appear as you explore

Nomad

Specifically designed for travelers and digital nomad lifestyle seekers.

Coverage: Job opportunities, new friends and lovers, increased safety, bureaucratic help – everything a digital nomad needs

Synergy: Works beautifully with Free Pass module for bureaucratic processes

Best For: Digital nomads, frequent travelers, location-independent professionals, expats

Application: Opens doors for lifestyle opportunities while traveling

Important: You must still be cognizant of safety – the module is not a guarantee, you take full responsibility

Hegemon

A classic alpha module updated with modern technology – combines confidence, leadership, and the charisma of a true womanizer.

Effect: Become a gravitational force that compels attention and respect

Components: Confidence + leadership + romantic charisma

Best For: Those seeking commanding presence with both men (respect) and women (attraction)

Application: Develop profound influence as a true hegemon – a being of deep authority

New Fame Experience (NFE) Core

The NFE core empowers you to embody profound recognition, command admiration, and cultivate an enduring legacy.

Key Feature: This is a CORE module (not just a regular module) – it processes all other fame-related modules through the NSE framework

How It Works in Customs: When you add NFE Core to a custom WITHOUT direct fame scripting, it helps you embody the qualities that naturally LEAD to recognition and elevated status

Practical Application:

  • Social/professional contexts: Your presence commands recognition
  • Leadership roles: Natural authority and admiration
  • Creative fields: Builds your reputation and legacy
  • Any field: Cultivates magnetic charisma

Example Custom: NFE Core + Business modules = You develop the presence and recognition that makes people want to work with you, even without “fame” per se

Best For: Anyone seeking elevated status, recognition in their field, or building a lasting legacy

Dragon Tongue vs. Gentleman’s Speech

Dragon Tongue:

  • Focus: Wit, reframing, debates, public speaking
  • Style: Sharp, clever, funny in your own way
  • Best For: Reframing situations to your advantage, winning debates, being witty and quick
  • Energy: Dynamic, sharp, powerful

Gentleman’s Speech:

  • Focus: Refinement, elegance, articulation, manners
  • Style: Polished, high-status, eloquent
  • Best For: Removing filler words (ums, uhs), creating refined high-status image, articulate explanations
  • Energy: Elegant, composed, sophisticated

Summary: Dragon Tongue = sharp wit and reframing power; Gentleman’s Speech = refined elegance and articulation

Voice of Desire

Shapes your voice into a tool of influence and attraction with different effects for different audiences.

For Men: Inspires trust and confidence in your leadership – rich, steady, grounded tone with authority

For Women: Creates warmth, intimacy, and quiet arousal – magnetic appeal that lingers

Effect: Every word resonates with clarity and carries more weight than casual speech

Natural Rhythm: Creates a cadence that draws attention and makes listening effortless

Best For: Leaders, speakers, seducers, anyone whose voice is a key tool

Application: Whether giving direction, sharing ideas, or casual conversation, your voice leaves a lasting impression

Whispered Power

Note: I couldn’t locate this specific module in our database. Could you double-check the exact name? There may be a similar module with a slightly different title, or this might be from an older catalog.

Cash Flow Catalyst (Cashflow Catalyst)

Helps you monetize any skill, talent, or ability to its extreme.

Focus: Finding angles to monetize your existing skills for incredible wealth

Effect: New ideas flood into your mind for monetization strategies

Best For: Anyone with a skill they want to turn into income (creators, professionals, consultants, coaches)

Application: Have a skill? This module helps you find multiple ways to profit from it

Virtue Series Collection

The Virtue Series is a collection of modules focusing on developing classical virtues (Charity, Kindness, Diligence, Hope, Patience, Temperance, etc.).

How It Works: Each module helps you develop a specific virtue within yourself

Why It’s Powerful: Builds inner strength and understanding rapidly through selfless evolution

Philosophy: Many spiritual traditions require serving others because it accelerates personal transformation

Example – Charity: Achieving things for the sake of others, inspiring and leading, material help when needed – builds power of your inner world

Best For: Those on spiritual paths, leaders wanting to develop authentic virtue, anyone seeking character development

Application: Choose virtues aligned with your goals – they work on deep character transformation

ESSENCE: Protector’s Authority vs. ESSENCE: Timeless Gravitas

Note: I couldn’t access the full Protector’s Authority description, but here’s what I can provide:

ESSENCE: Timeless Gravitas:

  • Source: Built on Emperor: DADDY framework
  • Focus: Maturity, wisdom, authentic self-assurance
  • Path: Away from shallow bravado and external validation
  • Result: Presence that commands attention through calm authority, refined habits, inner conviction
  • Energy: Doesn’t clamor for attention – commands it naturally
  • Best For: Developing mature masculine presence, genuine confidence, authority that needs no permission

ESSENCE Modules Generally: Span multiple themes, function as rapid enhancement to various areas without being a full core – add “essence” without risking overload

Synergy: Heaven Shaking Power

Combines three modules: Potentiator + Power Awareness + Power Unleashed

What Is “Power” Here?

Power is your untapped potential and strength (physical, mental, spiritual) – the ability to affect your reality and manifest your will.

The Progression:

  1. Potentiator: Break free from self-limitation, unlock endless possibilities
  2. Power Awareness: Illuminates your untapped strength, deep understanding of your capabilities
  3. Power Unleashed: Active manifestation – express power through your gaze, posture, speech, actions

Result: Power becomes an indelible part of your essence, not just a concept to pursue

Best For: Alpha-oriented customs, anyone seeking extraordinary personal power, transcending ordinary boundaries

Application: Comprehensive system that awakens, nurtures, and integrates power into your being

True Sell vs. Conversion Catalyst vs. Value Proposition

True Sell:

  • Goal: Sell ANYTHING
  • Scope: Broadest – door-to-door, online marketing, negotiations, any sales situation
  • Effect: Develop silver tongue, ability to monetize anything, master sales in any context
  • Best For: Sales professionals, marketers, negotiators, entrepreneurs
  • Synergy: Combines well with Sacred Words (written persuasion) and Dragon Tongue (speech mastery)

Conversion Catalyst:

  • Source: From Ecstasy of Gold
  • Goal: Turn interest into action through seamless, emotionally resonant sales processes
  • Scope: Designing the customer journey from curiosity to commitment
  • Effect: Master the art of converting potential into lasting relationships
  • Focus: Clarity, trust, connection
  • Best For: Business owners, marketers focused on sales funnels and customer journeys

Value Proposition:

  • Goal: Understand and articulate what truly matters to customers
  • Scope: Identifying customer needs and communicating unique value
  • Effect: Tailor marketing to highlight how you uniquely address needs, enhance perceived value
  • Result: Create and deliver value that captivates and retains customers
  • Best For: Marketers, career advancement, anyone needing to articulate value (professionals, consultants)

Summary:

  • True Sell = Master salesperson – sell anything to anyone
  • Conversion Catalyst = Sales process architect – design journeys that convert
  • Value Proposition = Value communicator – understand and articulate what customers actually need

Instant Business Tactician

Your inner business mentor – provides instant guidance on what approach to take in any business situation.

Coverage: How to lead meetings, negotiate, resolve business situations, achieve business goals

Effect: Know instantly what you need to do in the moment

Best For: Entrepreneurs, business leaders, managers, anyone in complex business environments

Application: Real-time tactical guidance for business decisions and situations

Singularity’s Paradox: Wealth

Note: I couldn’t access this specific file. Could you confirm if this is the correct full name? There’s a “Singularity’s Paradox” module but I need to verify the Wealth version specifically.

Resource Optimization

From Ecstasy of Gold – teaches you to maximize impact of time, money, and energy.

Focus: Streamlining processes, minimizing waste, intentional use of assets

Skills: Identify inefficiencies, simplify workflows, align resources with vision

Result: Enhanced productivity, flow of effort, sustainable success

Best For: Entrepreneurs, busy professionals, anyone managing complex projects or businesses

Application: Make every resource count – time, money, energy all used with maximum efficiency

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Summary Notes:

  • For Whispered Power and Singularity’s Paradox: Wealth – please confirm the exact names as I couldn’t locate these in our current database
  • For ESSENCE: Protector’s Authority – I have limited information; if you need more detail, I can research further

Does this help clarify these modules? Let me know if you need more detail on any specific module or if you can clarify the exact names for the ones I couldn’t find!

Best regards,

Subliminal Club Support

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#131

This should maybe be reported to support, as it is in the current catalog: Whispered Power

Edit: Also this

ESSENCE: Protector’s Authority

Edit2: And this

Singularity’s Paradox is from the old catalogue, according to the wealth version, which is the only one in the new catalogue Singularity’s Paradox: Wealth

#132

Already done :white_check_mark:

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