ya the discussion for masculinity was well addressed by Saint in WB thread when I asked the same. It seems to dilute the innovator alpha archetype. If you still want masculinity, either stack or custom.
What i suggest is we enhance the coognitive aspects of Stark as i mentioned previously add elements of indexgate in or perhaps combine the two.
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Starkhan Black 
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Unfortunately as much as we would like to see a Stark Black it aint gonna happen soon.
At the level of ROM. ROM blows every other sub Iāve tried out of the water when it comes to cognitive enhancements, clarity etc.
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Yes but its got a huge spiritual element to it and i donāt want to delve into the spiritual side of things at this moment in my life.
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I dont mind, im focusing on WB for the time being.
We can be sure that SC will make awesome subs in the future, like they did before
There will be something for everyone
Itās a comprehensive take on sexual energy imo. It expands on it in so many ways, which includes transmuting it, but also not limited to opening up more sexual energy, eradicating limiting sexual views and constraints.
All things sexual energy. Least itās been my experience.
Iāll throw this out there.
I advocated for more masculinity. But why would I do that if Iām being successful already?
What is really important to me is knowing how to protect myself. And Stark wasnāt a buff dude. He was a brainiac.
Iāll move for a enhanced PCC to be a step ahead of my detractors. All battles are won internally first.
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The main feature of stark that always stood out was the fame scripting. Thats would Iād like ultimately extracted and elaborated on from a personal standpoint
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This guy is clever.
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Havenāt seen anyone suggest it yet, but the BJ/HJ aura would fit pretty well no?
Not for Stark i believe the influenzing aura enhanced would be more appropriate.
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For me, Stark is the closest sub for Product work that involves a loot of different activities: creative thinking for new product ideas, enhancing existing ones, number affinity to check your KPI/OKRs in check, tech savvy so you can have discussions with you devs, marketing, social for meeting clients, getting the team to support your goal. Curiosity, ballz to try new things.
Based on MY experience with Stark and all the subs mentioned below, hereās what I would like to see added / changed:
- More brain power. I agree with @Azriel that ROM is superior to Stark in terms of mental clarity, focus, processing power. I feel QL4 is also better, especially in system thinking. So what I would like: is more focus, clarity from ROM/QL. Maybe a bit of Index Gat for the techy part, but I did not run this sub at all.
- More confidence. I think Genesis got the confidence part PERFECT. Not the āIām the king of the world, no one is like meā Emperor. Also WB confidence level is amazing in a work environment, but Iāve only been running this for about a month. The idea is that with both these you are extremely confident, but also chill enough to process new information that can change your opinion.
- More centered, than the special butterfly: what do I mean by this is not āmore masculineā, but maybe a bit more HOM way of looking at problems: take a step back, consider a holistic approach, process 3-4 ideas, rank them. Also applies to interactions with people: listen more, rather that pushing your agenda. Again, I found interactions on Genesis superior to Stark in a work environment, in terms of getting people aligned and supporting what I want.
- This one will be controversial haha, but less fame scripting. I believe that in the innovator role, you are pushing ideas and you should not shy away from fame. But mostly fame should be the effect of you being super smart, having great ideas, getting people to rally to get those ideas to reality, saying what you think if itās best for the product, and not necesarry you looking fame. Sometimes I find myself positioning things in a certain way, just so I have a more āpositive imageā.
- Charm. With Stark, I always lose that āedgeā when interacting with women in a work environment. I love it when with Wanted/Khan/WB thereās that extra spark that makes interactions with women so much easier because they are in awe with your presence. With Stark, that is gone. so again, maybe a bit more of WB presence.
- More Polymath scripting: any day in the product life means: creativity, tech, numbers, people. More RM to support this would be more than welcomed.
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Calmer. Way calmer. This is a big one
Whenever I run Stark, itās like Iām a bunny on adderall. Chill TF a bit mr Stark
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Stark is all about creating value and taking it out into the world. Thatās it. Thatās the main goal.
The fame, intelligence, innovation, charm, charisma, etc. are supportive goals that help the goal of creating as much value in the market place as possible.
I donāt think thereās anything wrong with Stark. I think the masculinity and assertiveness are to the point.
Sometimes it can make you overly social and overly friendly when youāre the one doing the talking, but I guess thatās okay.
All the other subs like Emperor, Khan, Ascension are about YOU, Stark isnāt.
Stark does also have some form of internal development, etc, but itās supposed to build a man that has all the qualities that support the main goal of CREATING VALUE in the world.
Itās an extremely externally driven subliminal and thatās how it should be.
I love Stark. Donāt change it.
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In my mind itās not about changing Stark.
Itās more adding to Stark all the lessons lerned from later subs like ROM, Genesis, WB. I agree with you thats Starks is about creating value, but if you read my message, I think every point I make is to help you create more value either on your won, or with the support of others.
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Of course, if these ālessonsā from the newer subs help optimize Starkās scripting and improve its functionality, then yes, it should be included.
But for me, Stark works incredibly well already.
It would be great if we could add features of ROM into Stark but not have the spiritual stuff.
I am afraid of using ROM as i dont want to become religious or spiritual.
Itās not THAT spiritual:
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