UNOFFICIAL - Suggestions for Stark ZP2v2 MAX

Thanks was not aware of that so ROM and stark could fair well in a custom ?

Dayyum you pretty much summarized my wants (including things I did not know I wanted)
Especially the centeredness and charm part, we need it lol

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Thats why I highlighted “my experience”. I love Stark, ran it for 2+ years, had amazing results with it.
But I also need to be objective when there are better subs supporting my current goals, hence I underlined, based on my experience, useful adjustements for someone in product management in tech. Especially with senior positions(I’m head of product), all those additions would support the product/innovator role better in my opinion.

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Haha, Stark was my ZP darling, got so much out from it in 2+ years I ran it. But also had the time to understand whats missing for me :smiley:

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I like These ideas, this would make Stark a dream sub. These are good improvements @lovage i like it :+1:

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@fire i know that Saint is the voice of SC i am looping you in because you are the brains of SC.

Thanks

Well, what I’v read so far about Stark is that it, actually, needs to be left alone as it is. No need to improve it.

Finally, I agree with that.

BUT.

All Brand New Sub is already exist in “SC collective mind” and its coming is predicted.

Fame, definitely masculinity boost, cognitive enhancement and persuade features.

Its a social/business butterfly. Fresh air innovative Magician (i.e. right brain psychology, masculine energy).

Call it Arcane ZP of something like that.

So, some people will chooses Stark and somebody, like me, @RockyHandsome and other guys will prefer new one.

Win-win solution.

Something tells me that Stark fans will change to this new sub in blink of an eye :laughing:

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Yes, infact, I really loved @lovage 's suggestion for this. It is a perfect summary of my desires lol.

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Ok guys wanted to just say that when I said in the thread Fire is the brains of SC whilst Saint is the voice. I got a few messages in response saying "Hey Who why are you causing trouble by making comments like this.

I did not harbor any intention of causing offense to either of the founders; both of these gentlemen possess remarkable and distinct traits. My intention was not to imply that Saint lacks intelligence that was never my point. Both of these individuals exhibit exceptional intellect and brilliance, which is evident without question, especially when you consider the remarkable creations they have brought into existence here at SC.

Best Wishes Dr. Who

Myself and @lovage who by the way is a personal friend of mine are lovers of stsrk ever since its conception.

I was involved in making this reality.Of course Saint did all the hard work :slight_smile: .

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What do you like most about it

I adore the limitless concentration it provides and the skill to discuss intricate concepts in a simple manner.

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Exactly, this is the most interesting part of Stark, I am really glad SC made such a sub

Btw @RockyHandsome I also agree with adding Index Gate to Stark, Stark was a really great programmer and an engineer( Marvel of engineering) :wink:

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This is what customs are for.

I’ve got Stark Emperor Fit 4, and a whole lotta modules like Index Gate and Tech Prodigy for the programming stuff. There’s Serum X for physical healing. Lion IV for adding that lion-like calm that balances out the high octane social awareness and engagement that comes along with Stark.

If you’ve extracted all the goodies from Stark and still want more, make a custom and let these guys do what they do best, create awesome products for their customers.

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That is ofcourse true, but why not do a little brainstorming for fun. If the creators don’t want to add any of this, none of us have any problem. But if it makes something really good, then why not?

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I agree. The whole point of the forum is to share this kind of info. It would be great if in this kind of threads people would explain a bit why a specific thing would help, not just list it, for Saint and Fire understand the context more, the nuances, not just “more x”

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I like Stark Fame scripting, its something out of this world. Adding Genesis grounding, will make Stark even better.

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Interesting @Tomcat can you please share why.

As you know i am Stark product fan.

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Actually, I also like it very much. My first custom (and only at this moment) contains it.

What I mean by grounding is that to me Stark solo feels like Daredevil with Limitless/Mogul aspects. I.e. light, airy butterfly with great intelligence and innovation/novelty feeling.

And its all good.

I see the misunderstanding between people here about “more masculinity” aspect.

The problem is the term “masculinity” its has much misunderstanding here.

I also flawed with this one because masculinity means for me completely different thing. The map is not a territory (NLP presupposition).

Okey, what lacks for me in Stark?

Well, Stark is fame and innovation powerhouse. Running it solo, I feel vulnerable. By vulnerable I mean that more people see me, I feel less secure. I feel like an upstart: came with great ideas but doesn’t have enough power to defend my ideas.

Interesting, Renaissance Man doesn’t feel vulnerable.

Don’t get me wrong I was on TV, radio and spoken to audience more that a few hundred people.

When I run Stark solo, I feel like a brightest Sun (my numerology number 1 Sun) and people wants to be closer to me and here is the problem - Personal Boundaries.

I definitely has some issues with it and working with it.

Emperor, EB and, Genesis(!) heals my boundaries but lacks fame/innovative component. I have no problem with it.

So, my dream Stark is a grounded (very solid sense of myself, my core, my boundaries) with powerful fame component.

GLM+Stark doesn’t solve my issues. Will try Genesis+Stark.

But my feelings are true to me: Stark lacks something which will help its Fame / Innovative component to shine more. I will feel more secure. Like on Genesis, which is a miracle in terms of social influence.

Like good metal ring for jewel.

I hope that this description is understandable, its quite hard to explain those thing not in my native language.

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