TMB - EoG/E:HoM

[Brandon]

but you decided not to follow that path and exclude Mogul for now putting some wealth modules in its place instead.

I haven’t decided anything yet because I’m indecisive 🤷🏼.
I haven’t put anything extra into my custom to be honest.

Also, in regards to Stark Ultima - weren’t things taken out of the StarkU to make it run in Ultima? I’m sure things like fame and stuff were which would make it less of a goal sub for me.

Stark is very dense

I actually didn’t realise Stark was so dense, I thought it was pretty light in comparison to other programs like Emperor and Khan.

I knew it was denser than Mogul and stuff tho.

It’s not about the number of loops but about the density of your stack:

I understand. I get it. But I’m also not new to subliminals entirely. Even when I started with Stark I was stacking it with dense subs like Emperor and had great results from Stark.

Idk.

[Brandon]

Stark has a really dense script and Mogul is only a small part of it

To be honest I didn’t even know Mogul was in it until today, I thought it was EoG. But you’re still right, it’s only a small part. I need a larger part. Gah, this is frustrating af.

I’m starting to get overwhelmed with the decisions and what to make out of it.

it would be fine if you had a wider time frame.

I don’t necessarily have a time frame to make a certain amount or anything - I just want to make sure it’s a focus.

[Brandon]

stark is good for work but only if its what you want to do.if your unhappy with your current job,it does seem to make you focus more on the future and improving yourself for finding a better job.

Dance is my work and I get to do what I love but I’m using Stark to focus on social media like Tiktok and to put my choreography/dance work out there.

he found ascended mogul better for his cureent situation cause he still has to maintain his day job before looking for his dream job(>_<)

That’s frustrating with Stark but also makes sense. Maybe Stark is a better use for when he’s doing what he love instead?

Heard good things about glm.will be interesting how it treats you

For sure! Did you check out the GLM main thread? Some people posted some good stuff in there recently.

limitless executive sounded fun but already too many things to test so havent been able to fit it in to my schedule.

Yep! I understand that feeling. I feel like I’m already running too much to add an Ultima on top.

[Sub.Zero]

Also, in regards to Stark Ultima - weren’t things taken out of the StarkU to make it run in Ultima? I’m sure things like fame and stuff were which would make it less of a goal sub for me.

You would have to investigate on StarkU more since you know best what you want to have in it. I know only the general mechanism of it and what people have experienced using it.

I actually didn’t realise Stark was so dense, I thought it was pretty light in comparison to other programs like Emperor and Khan.

I knew it was denser than Mogul and stuff tho.

Stark is very dense since it has a lot of different objectives/goals and included the scripting of programs like Mogul, Limitless, Emperor:

StarkQ is a subliminal like no other. It’s more than just a “combination” of our earlier titles. We upgraded elements of Limitless, Emperor, Daredevil, Primal Seduction: Iron Throne, etc. and created 75+ of pages of exclusive scripting,

Emperor has 127 pages. But it’s not only about the number of pages but the number of objectives and modules.

Even when I started with Stark I was stacking it with dense subs like Emperor and had great results from Stark.

Are you sure there were results which were in accordance with the objectives of those programs? Or maybe it was just a general feel you something was going on and gave you some “superpowers”?

[Sub.Zero]

I don’t necessarily have a time frame to make a certain amount or anything - I just want to make sure it’s a focus.

Then there’s nothing wrong in running a very dense stack provided you gauge your results and you know your subliminal capacities.

[Sub.Zero]

You could consider this Ultima custom:

The Spark of Genius

• Stark Core
• God Like Masculinity Ultima Core
• Beyond Limitless Ultima Core
• Mastermind
• Chosen of Venus
• Transcendental Connection

[Sub.Zero]

There’s not much focus on generating wealth (Stark Core [and let’s say Mastermind too] only) but on the skills/qualities required to generate your wealth. It would be a real killer when stacked with your wealth custom letter on.

[Meng123]

Nothing got taken out for stark ultima,its the full script.just acts differently cause its ultima.

My problem with Q

Aye. Sounds like you’ll need to cut back on loops. If the sub is causing you to “have a bad mood,” that’s actually a result. It means your subconscious is receiving and processing the scripting, but it’s triggering reconciliation. Sometimes, this is something you’ll have to deal with, or move at a slower pace than you’d like. For example, BLU has that exact same effect on me. In fact, anything to deal with cognition or learning leaves me in a bad mood. I have to cycle on and off of it to enj…

Can agree on perceived density though.stark,medici and dr feel light to me although they are dense.ql and emperor on the other hand feel really dense.guess depends how much the program gels with the current situation/personality.i feel alignment is more important than density.this one is still my favorite post by saintsovereign cause it resonated with me

Q programs vs. Q customs

Custom programs are superior to Major Titles in almost every way IF you’re completely honest with yourself about your shortcomings and you take the time to build a custom that will alleviate those issues. Everyone keeps focusing on things like density, when I keep saying that density is less important than correctly identifying your issues and coming up with a game plan to attack them with subliminals. For example, Blue Skies Ultima is relatively short, and yet it’s extremely hard for me to run…

[Meng123]

Pretty much.hes saving stark for when he gets his dream job and can concentrate on it.hes mainly using am at the moment.yep,read the glm thread.it sounded great but unfortunately wasnt a big enough a priority for me to fit it in

[Apollo]

Same. Got noticeable luck when I was running Stark, and unexpected income. Stark is a very good sub, I’m still wondering how to perfect it with stacks. I still have a lot to learn about customs.

[Brandon]

You would have to investigate on StarkU more since you know best what you want to have in it. I know only the general mechanism of it and what people have experienced using it.

I’m going to check it out - I’ve read it repeatedly but unsure where. I’ll have to confirm but Meng just wrote something I need to check out. This might change everything if what he said is true.

Stark is very dense since it has a lot of different objectives/goals and included the scripting of programs like Mogul, Limitless, Emperor:

That would make sense. If the above works with StarkU and it has everything in the script then I’ll use it as the Ultima instead and get Mogul.

Emperor has 127 pages. But it’s not only about the number of pages but the number of objectives and modules.

Yeah, I’ve read about it not being about the number of pages a few times. This would explain to me why it’s so dense compared to other titles.

Are you sure there were results which were in accordance with the objectives of those programs?

The Stark ones were, I was on an app that required you to be live streaming. I was popular as heck, everyone knew my name - even people I didn’t know, and everyone had heard about me and wanted to help me out. It was amazing. I made like 2.5k each month thanks do it but I always invested it back until the last month. Without Stark I wouldn’t have been able to make anything happen this Christmas.

[Brandon]

I don’t necessarily have a time frame to make a certain amount or anything - I just want to make sure it’s a focus.

Then there’s nothing wrong in running a very dense stack provided you gauge your results and you know your subliminal capacities.

This is something for me to think about but now I’m leaning towards the stack you suggested with Stark as the Ultima if nothing is taken out of it. I’m going to do research.

[Brandon]

You could consider this Ultima custom:

The Spark of Genius

• Stark Core
• God Like Masculinity Ultima Core
• Beyond Limitless Ultima Core
• Mastermind
• Chosen of Venus
• Transcendental Connection

I’m bookmarking this, I added up the price and all that stuff and it seems possibly doable but I’d have to choose between this and the normal custom. We’ll see what the outcome is but I do love this set up, thanks man!

There’s not much focus on generating wealth (Stark Core [and let’s say Mastermind too] only) but on the skills/qualities required to generate your wealth. It would be a real killer when stacked with your wealth custom letter on.

This could be stacked with DR and Mogul and be less dense right?

[Brandon]

Nothing got taken out for stark ultima,its the full script.just acts differently cause its ultima.

My problem with Q Questions and Comments

Ah, I always thought things got taken out. I’ll have to run StarkU then. I acted test ran Stark Uwhen it was avaliable for testing in the early stages and enjoyed it but never stuck with it to see proper results. Maybe it’s exactly what I need.

@RVconsultant you however said you felt nothing on StarkU, right?

Can agree on perceived density though.stark,medici and dr feel light to me although they are dense

My current stack doesn’t actually feel dense, I don’t feel a denseness, I just want to make money faster.

guess depends how much the program gels with the current situation/personality.i feel alignment is more important than density.this one is still my favorite post by saintsovereign cause it resonated with me

I would also agree with this, I think this would be the way it works. This is a great post too. Thanks for posting these!

[Brandon]

Pretty much.hes saving stark for when he gets his dream job and can concentrate on it.

It’s gonna be awesome for him to run with his dream job, I hope it truly works out for him. Please keep me updated on that man, I need to see/want to see success stories for everyone.

hes mainly using am at the moment.

Great plan in my opinion for something he’s currently doing. Hope it’s going well.

read the glm thread.it sounded great but unfortunately wasnt a big enough a priority for me to fit it in

This makes sense for sure, maybe in the future it’ll be something you need, maybe not! I’m excited to have it in that custom for sure. Whether the Ultima version or normal.

[Brandon]

Got noticeable luck when I was running Stark, and unexpected income.

Stark really helped me through the lockdown but a sub focused on wealth would really help me out at the moment.

Stark is a very good sub

Man it’s probably one of my favourite subs I can’t lie. SubClub just make some many great products but Stark is just something else for me.

I’m still wondering how to perfect it with stacks.

Judging from this thread and the last few posts…me too

I still have a lot to learn about customs.

When are you considering making one? I’m more than happy to try and help you out now I’ve researched and looked around the Q sure so often to the point I got blocked by WordPress for thinking I was doing something bad !

[Apollo]

Haha thanks brother. I have yet to try Khan, and then after that I’ll have an idea if I should add an ST there. Simon mentioned that ST2 is the one heavy in masculinity, and 4 is the one heavy in libido.

I’m still on the fence if I’m going to make a custom centered on making Stark more dominant, or EQ more innovative, open minded and friendlier.

I’ve tried these two, but I’ve yet to see what Khan does for me.

[Brandon]

I have yet to try Khan

Khan is something else, you’ll love it. Honestly. I wish Stark was a multistage like this but I guess that’s what I’ll have to do with DR + StarkU haha.

Simon mentioned that ST2 is the one heavy in masculinity

Yup! It is. I feel more masculine than I did without it, but I had recon because my views on masculinity are different to other people’s views.

I’m still on the fence if I’m going to make a custom centered on making Stark more dominant, or EQ more innovative, open minded and friendlier.

After struggling I’d just say pick the one that sticks with you the most until your goals change. It’ll be a struggle to get the two to mix together.

[Sub.Zero]

This could be stacked with DR and Mogul and be less dense right?

Yes, it would be less dense than the Stark custom you were working on, on top of that it’s narrower if it comes to objectives.

[RVconsultant]

you however said you felt nothing on StarkU

I think it didn’t seem any more effective that Stark Q. In terms of feeling something, I did feel things with other Ultimas I tested during the initial testing of Ultima, but not StarkU. However, I think the other Ultimas were designed to do so. I don’t know if Stark is so much to create a feeling.

However, there are some people who I think love StarkU.