The Rebirth Of Ouroboros

Hey All!

@Billions here.

In 2-3 days, I will edit this post to REMOVE the “@Billions here” part so that I can stay ANONYMOUS AND PRIVATE.

So please don’t be a moron and say “CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW ACCOUNT BILLIONS!” because, just to be clear, I can only edit my posts, not yours.

I’ve been inactive from the forum for a while now because I haven’t been able to post about what’s really important to me, since certain people know my account. Even if I have nothing all that private to post… the thought of it generally weighs me down.

Just call me by the new name Ouroboros thank you. Don’t mention the “B” word.

Ouroboros is a name that’s important to me.

The ouroboros is a dragon that is constantly eating it’s own tail… in other words, it is a dragon that is in a never ending cycle of rebirth.

That cycle represents infinity, specifically, infinite transformation, constant improvement, becoming the best and then re-inventing yourself to become even better from there.

I will post progress on my journey and what I’m doing to get there.

Currently, thanks to Subclub and years of listening to money subs, especially Mogul, Ascended Mogul, and EOG stage 1, I’ve gotten to the point where I have an extremely high earning potential and income generating skills.

Time to re-invent myself yet again because I don’t know shit about finances, investing, saving money, budgeting, and I’m still not the organized person that I thought I “had to become” to become “successful.”

Also, my focus has changed, and I’m not focused 100% on money anymore. I have been with my partner for a long time and want to propose in the next 6-24 months, I want to be more financially organized before I do so, and I want to pivot in my career to get into more coaching, helping other business owners achieve their dreams.

I’ll always be a “good” agency owner, but I truly believe that I could become the #1 Agency Owner Sales Coaching Program in the world… I’m already coaching for a big brand and I know I’m extremely good at it, but more importantly, it’s not a difficult accomplish to achieve… considering the fact that there are currently NO sales coaching programs on the planet that cater exclusively to agency owners. So, I’d be a category of one.

I guess my goals over the next year are simple enough.

In order-ish, they are:

  • Stabilize my income while pivoting careers
  • Build a personal brand + offer stack
  • Excel at finances and tracking and budgeting and investing, buy a condo
  • Build into the phase of my life where I get married
  • Do all of this while NOT sacrificing my love and relationships and hobbies and friendships like I’ve been doing for the last 2 years
  • Stabilize my mood, treat major ADHD and moderate cyclothymia through subliminals
  • Improve the other non-financial areas of my life, ie hobbies, health, relationships

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  • HOM

has been invaluable as a subliminal for me, however, I find it heavy on the socializing and networking side of things, so I need to let it go.

I really dislike subliminals that make me more social.

I’m already an extremely social person, and any subliminal that encourages me to socialize MORE is a subliminal that is a distraction from my goals.

HOM has made my sales skills sharp and more savage than ever. Sales trainings that I didn’t comprehend previously instantly clicked after starting HOM, and solidified my spot as the top closer in the company for a second month in a row.

But HOM also, has made me more interested in providing value for the current clients and students I’ve already sold into the program, not selling new students into the program, and now that I have so many students I’ve sold into the program, I can’t spend all day helping all of them.

So I’ll remove HOM from my stack for now but remember the lesson that it taught me:

True generational wealth and happiness and deep social connections will come from networking and developing trust with people, not just “selling” people.

I’ll also find a way to coach more people at once with only 1-3 group slots per week, not individual slots.



  • EOG 1 + RICH custom, 14 modules

  • Limitless Executive + The Commander custom, 14 modules

These two are the foundations… then I’ll rotate in a a third subliminal. Going to test out Godlike Masculinity for something light, non-social, yet alpha. Also, enhances the productivity vibe, which I like and want right now.

I listen to my 2 customs for 1 minute each like a type of microloop. Occassionally, I’ll listen to 3-15 minutes when I’m prioritizing long term development over short term results.

Haven’t figured out exactly the best system yet for GLM or if it’s even the third sub I want in the stack.


@ouroboros : Great post that validates some of my intuitions.

That’s the same reason why I never ran True Social or Daredevil and why I picked HoM over Stark. I’m already way too social. What I need is more gravitas. That’s something that I’m finding in HoM but it’s also the reason why I will end up adding Emperor back to my stack.

100% agree. But also for finding your life purpose and using those deep social connections to fulfill that purpose.
HoM is a sub for grown men trying to build a legacy! Not for young dudes who are still trying to figure out how hard their :cucumber: can get. :rofl:

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On a similar wavelength over here, man…just hung up a badass, Japanese-style image of the phoenix to be reminded of the same.

Sounds like you have a concrete vision of what you want…here’s to your inevitable success :beers:

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Truer words of wisdom were never spoken

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I also notice emperor doesn’t make me feel “too social”

Went to a bar with a friend and he gave me the idea of selling my knowledge as an info product.

I don’t know why the idea never occurred to me before. I thought I had to give so much time, do 1-1 & group coaching calls, sell a high ticket program and do EVERYTHING for my clients.

My mind is blown at how easy it would be to make a course and sell it for $500-$2000 to agency owners, but it takes none of my time. Then I could sell my 1-1 time for even more :o

I’m going to a cabin on Sunday - Tuesday to reflect on my vision and what my next phase in life is.

Time to ask myself what my goals are in a more crystallized way. Right now it’s very generalized and up in the air.


I notice it doesn’t matter what subliminal I listen to, they all provide a feeling of influence over reality. I cause things to happen, things don’t just happen to me.

Coincidences and synchronicities always happen, but when I do listen to subliminals, I don’t think of them as luck, or synchronicity, which feels outside of my control.

I feel like they’re manifestations, within my control, as if I caused them.

Probably caused by the primer since it’s universal across subs I’ve listened to

What if it’s a processus always happening, à power everyone use all the time but dispersed into so many things that not much seems to be happening

That subs focus your mind
And allows you to experience things that require a certain threshold Wich usually isn’t met by most people

I’m certain tho that it can be reached ‘’ naturally ‘’ without subs but would require a lot of training such as bodybuilding

Welcome to the forum Ouroboros :wink:

Look into Alen Sultanic and the Automatic Clients model, join his FB group “Nothing Held Back” and maybe even his mastermind NHB+

Guy is an insane marketer and has systematized the winningest info product funnel.