The chronicles of Invictus and ZP

Hey man sorry for the late reply, was pretty much dead yesterday because of a stupid thing I did on Sunday (went out in the cold being drenched in sweat :sweat_smile:), which lead to me catching a cold, which lead to my purchase of paragon and I can safely say that I’m back to 100%.

Anyways, to answer your question, the main difference I’d say between these two is the way I feel on them, and the speed of physical shifting on a week to week basis.

On Qv2: the physical changes were linear, and I had a good sense of pride deep inside me, being proud of who I am, but felt waaaaaaay too chill about everything.

On ZP: the physical changes are exponential, and the sense of pride on this is more like positive narcissism that is maxed out in every way possible :rofl:, and I don’t feel as chill or passive on this, like yeah everything is cool, but if someone tries to do me wrong, I’m not just going to sit there and be like “it is what it is”.

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Wow, I didn’t realize how magical Paragon ZP would be, but I’d honestly be a jerk if I didn’t give it the credit it deserves for what just happened;

Basically, there’s a certain lift I really struggle with, which is the overhead press, and I always had an issue going past 35kgs for more than 5 reps, due to the fact that I dislocated my shoulders (yes, both of them :sweat_smile:) when I was 17, but just now, I set a new personal record of doing 8 reps at 45kg :rofl:
I don’t know what made me feel so daring to even try it, but I was like “screw it, no point in being scared”, and boom.

P.S. my program had 35kg for 3 reps today and I ignored it because of my intuition :rofl:

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So guys just to keep you all up to date on the stack;

Rich and WZP
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Paragon

At first paragon was just for my cold, then I realized it would help with my cold intolerance, then I realized it could also help with my lactose intolerance, then I realized it could help with gym recovery times (I’m not sore today after 9 sets of OHP and 8 of Incline bench, along with extra chest and shoulder work last night), then I realized it could heal the issues that have limited my gym progress indirectly (dislocated shoulders), then I realized that it could help me with my migraines…… so yeah it’s pretty much an essential that I wasn’t bothered to add to my stack :sweat_smile:

Anyways, a little update for y’all;

I slept with the intent to focus RICH ZP’s pathway manifestations ability in order to secure the bag from the Olympics committee (growing restless and just want to sign the contract and get on with the work), so I communicated with my SubC and told him that we need to manifest the call to wake me up for it, then I slept.
8 hours later, I get a call, I pick up enthusiastically thinking that “I DID IT”, I say hello and I hear the lady saying hi and then confirming my details, then she asks me to come for my 2nd interview, at first I felt like I wasn’t hearing properly, but then I asked “where?” And she replied with “the tourism tower”, and then it clicked, “OH OKAY” that was my reaction, she laughed and asked why did my tone change, so I simply replied with “you made me feel like a kid who got his favorite toy as a Christmas present” (I really don’t know why I said that), because of which she started laughing more and told me to come half an hour earlier to grab a coffee before the interview :stuck_out_tongue: ain’t gonna say no to that :sunglasses:

So yeah, big day tomorrow, because while the Olympics committee is good (I mean come on, it’s the Olympics ffs :rofl:), getting into QT (Qatar Tourism) is much much harder, as I have been told that it requires some networking/nepotism to get in :eyes:, so we shall see where this takes me.

P.S. should I start a new journal? I feel like my journal has already surpassed some of the discussion threads for subs (like Sage Immortal) :rofl:

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You could, but as the titles says, it’s achronicle, you could make the Tome 2 tho XD

Well congrats on the spot ! I hope, no I don’t hope, it’s going to go in ways you can’t imagine (awesomeness)

We never notive how bad we were until we’re no more
It’s like shit I wasn’t feeling my best self this whole time, I didn’t even know :joy:

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I’ll probably do that after I update about the interview tomorrow :sunglasses::call_me_hand:t4:

Thanks ma man :sunglasses: really appreciate it.

In fact, I’ve been feeling like I reached a better mental state for subs after using it, like, even the manifestations I had (which are definitely from RICH ZP) were just unexpected.
Even my recovery from yesterday’s workout was amazing, almost as if I didn’t even workout.

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Thanks for the thorough comparison :slight_smile:

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So I started emperor.

New journal starting soon.

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Emperor, WANTED and RICH?

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Well yeah :wink:

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I was going to just post a link to this from the main Emperor ZP thread, but that would just be disrespectful to my journal, so here’s me “letting it out”;

You know guys, I always felt like I had a tough time keeping myself humble on the forum with WANTED’s cockiness, and now with Emperor ZP, I can’t help it but feel like a VIP on here.

Why? Well, time and time again I’ve been seeing how much people like reading my comments on how fast my brain absorbs and expresses most of the subs I’ve tried (especially since the test), to the point where even @SaintSovereign said that I hold the title for the highest flow so far, which made me really happy back then, but I never really “owned it”, if that makes sense.
Like yeah, I did feel a certain level of pride, but always kept it down and told myself “keep yourself humble”, but why should I, when even people (I was very close to just writing fanboys and moving on, but gotta stay humble haha) often ask me how am I expressing the subs so fast and even getting external manifestations.

I have actually been accused of lying, but you guys see pics as well in my journals, whether it’s muscle gains, beard growth, money manifestation, gift manifestations, heck even today I got a leather jacket randomly as a gift from my dad after thinking about it yesterday when I was listening to emperor.

My point here is that Emperor ZP has opened my eyes, I’m going to own it and wear the crown that I deserve to wear, and while I’m not trying to put down anyone else (that’s just not okay, even for me), I’m also not gonna keep myself down much longer and act like I’m just a “regular dude who listens to subs and gets lucky”.

I am unique, I have strengths of my own, and I’m the ruler of my own reality in my own way, hence why I’m not going to downplay myself anymore, even if it was to appear humble or nice.

Thank you for coming to my SubClub talk.

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No wonder I feel VIP when I’m number 2 behind @SaintSovereign in the last quarter, for the top users :rofl:

Is this an Emperor manifestation :thinking::eyes:

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How did this went for you, man?

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@lovage Oh I wrote about it in the post that was linked from the Emperor ZP thread.

Would you like a more detailed one, like I did with the interview I did while on Chosen, for a better comparison of performance between both?

Lemme know and I’ll do it, since I’ve been thinking about doing that comparison if anyone was interested enough.

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I’m curious regarding the Chosen vibe vs the Emperor vibe in the Interview. I remember when I was on Emperor and went to the bank to get a job (yeah, three days after starting emperor, or something… It should be in my first journal!!!). I had no job, I posted my resume online and went directly to the bank to meet the director without them asking me anything. They told me “Well, usually you have to post online to get the job”, I anwsered “I already have”. And continued on : “I want to work in a bank because I like money and want to understand how the banking system work”. I ultimatly talked to the director in her office for like 5-10 minutes and later on got the job.

Conclusion : I was bold and confident.

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Whoaaa!!

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Keep in mind that both of them were also compounding WANTED, but then again, it’s no surprise that WANTED is always there as the main sub :rofl:

Emperor really makes you feel like you could just go talk to the head of any company or organization as if they’re just a random joe :rofl: more on this in the comparison I’m writing.

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So yesterday’s interview… I posted a quick summary of it on the emperor thread, but that was mainly due to the fact that I went out and didn’t have enough time to write a lot, like I previously did with Chosen, but now that I do have the time, here you go guys;

Firstly, My interview was at 1:15pm.
After waking up and getting ready, I left my house to drive around 12:30, being fully confident that I’ll reach in time and what not, but little did Mr. Invictus know that he didn’t actually know the exact location of the tower he was meant to be interviewed at :rofl: so I got lost a bit, but still made it in time.

So I reach there, and I meet this one guy, who looked like the tea boy, in the elevator, he saw me all dressed up and asked if I was there to be interviewed, so I replied with yes and started a short conversation with him, which made him laugh and all, then he told me he’ll take me where I should go so I don’t get lost (very nice of him), so we go to the HR department and the woman who was supposed to meet me was like “oh you came?”, now that was a very unusual way of greeting someone, but right as she said that, I got an email notification, and before I say anything more, just know that the website we use as the recruitment portal, the one I mentioned before, is called Kawader, saying this just so you guys can understand what this email really meant;

A little extra info; 2 days before the call, my portal was acting up so I had to reset everything, and reuplod my CV, paperwork and all the other stuff, so it also automatically removed and cancelled any on-going application (since we’re only allowed to apply to one at a time).

So I see the email and tell her that I never really cancelled anything, and if I did, then I wouldn’t have drove all this way, so she said “we’ll do the interview, since we already did plan to do it in the first place, and we’ll see about the portal stuff later”, so we go to the elevator straight after that, and I meet the marketing team…. And it starts;

The first thing I noticed was that there were no guys around, at all, and only 3 women were there to interview me, and they asked me to sit before any of them sat down.
The interview started with the HR lady first asking me a couple of questions before she had to leave, and with every question she asked, my answers first made her language scream “holy fuck you’re confident”, then made her smile and laugh a bit, since I always add a bit of humor with my words. One of the questions she asked me was “what do you think you can bring to the organization? As in what can we expect to see from you?”, and I kid you not guys, I gave them a disclaimer before I answered, I told them that I don’t know if they’re used to someone being so confident in themselves, but the confidence I’m about to let loose might sound arrogant. Now, I said that in order to clear up the fact that I’m speaking from the heart and not just making up shit just to impress them.
I answered the question by telling them that just by me being in their department, they could expect a huge jump in productivity levels and work efficiency, as not only do I work hard and smart, but my influence on those around me makes them enjoy putting in more effort as well, I also mentioned that I could be the sole reason why they might feel like they finish most, if not all, of their projects before the deadlines, which not only impressed them, but it kept them all on a hook. I mentioned how once I start doing anything, the world becomes a void, and my productivity reaches similar levels to Eddie Morra’s, from the movie Limitless, which apparently 2 of them liked and mentioned how that’s a big claim, so I showed them my dissertation and told them how it took me less than 6 hours to do most of it (1 of them asked for it and is reading it during the weekend :stuck_out_tongue:), after that, the HR lady had to leave, and I was left with the other 2.

Now the 2 I was left with, one was the head of international marketing campaigns, while the other was the head of national and regional marketing campaigns, and even though that might sound big, their vibe didn’t intimidate me at all, nor did I feel nervous, in fact, the whole time during the interview, I already felt like they both were unable to resist looking up to me and realizing that I’m such a huge catch for the organization, that one of them even asked me “how aren’t you employed yet? Are you not applying to other places? Or do you have other offers you’ve put on hold?”, I asked her why the question, and she said it’s because she felt like I’m a golden fish swimming freely that no one’s catching, which isn’t something I ever heard before, but it’s not like I disagree :rofl:

They kept asking me more and more things, and so was I, and then I felt like the Emperor inside me got fired up because I asked them 3 questions that I wouldn’t normally ask, especially when I’m the one being interviewed, which are;

  • what kind of progression can I expect here? Like where would I be in the next 3-4 years, assuming I’m the best performing employee consistently?

The answer was: “you could end up in one of our positions.

  • how much can I expect to be making here throughout the years?

The answer is going to be kept a secret, as I’d like to keep that to myself, haha, but in retrospect, the starting pay for me would be around 5.5k to 6.9k USD per month, and it only goes up from there.

  • when can I expect to hear about an offer from you? (Note that I didn’t say “about whether you accept or reject me”)

The answer was: “seems like you’re confident enough to know that we will call you”, I replied with “am I wrong to think that way?”, they both smiled and chuckled and told me to keep an eye on my phone and e-mail for the next 2 weeks.

Afterward, the interview came to an end and the head of the international campaign even escorted me out and started showing me around their floor and stuff, then when we reached the elevator, she told me “please keep in contact with the HR, so that your file shows up at the top and they respond to you quicker”, weird that she insisted on me keeping in touch for quicker response :thinking::wink:, I then looked at the time as I entered the lift, and the time was 1:53, if you don’t know why I mentioned the time, then check the screenshot of the e-mail, where it mentioned the interview’s pre-determined duration :wink:.

Either way, I feel more confident about this one than about the Olympics for some reason, maybe it’s just Emperor’s confidence.


Now here’s the interview on Chosen again, just to compare;


Comparison results:

The interview vibe on Chosen was very positive, charismatic, friendly, and warm, like it almost felt as if I was just catching up with an old friend of mine.

Emperor, on the other hand, made me feel sharp, bold, confident, charming, and self-assured, I felt playfully professional all throughout the interview and felt like they were hooked.

Chosen is like a big brother, Emperor is your boss :sunglasses::call_me_hand:t4:

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For anyone who wants to keep up with my current journal, here you go

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@RVconsultant @DarkPhilosopher can you guys close this one?

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Done, thanks for helping to keep the forum tidy.

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