Thanks for posting man!
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I submitted a support ticket but currently there is no login link to accounts on the main site
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Great thread, Brandon! Extremely useful.
I have to say that I am loving the support. No more theorizing and pulling our hairs, the answers are but few days away.
The topic in question is about some modules’ effect on writing novels and screenplays
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here’s one of mine;
Question
I have 2 questions regarding Sage Immortal;
1- does Sage Immortal have any scripting for healing? Is it considered a healing sub as well?
and
2- does Sage Immortal contain any type of scripting regarding aura perception and feeling? Like for example being able to perceive love, lust, anger, fear, joy, or anything else a person would be feeling just by looking at them?
Answer
Yes, Sage Immortal does have healing and yes you will notice aura perception and feeling also. Remember to focus on your goals and journal your progress for future study! Thank you for reaching out to us! Please feel free to contact us again if you have any other questions. Always happy to help! 
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@Phoermes - I guess social modules like Story Teller and Dragon Tongue does transfer into writing after all.
I did consider that to be intuitive but at the same time I was doubtful. Glad that you could confirm it.
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I’m pretty exhausted – @Fire and I have been working nonstop since about 6a EST (anyone notice the new tweaks to the site design) and it’s midnight now, so excuse me if I’m a bit incoherent.
You seem to be obsessed with finding ways to skirt recommendations or run more than you’re ready to handle. It’s one thing to optimize your stack, it’s another to seek out “loopholes” in order to skirt recommendations… If you want to buy two customs with 7 cores across them as a beginner, go ahead – we won’t stop you. Remember, there’s no refunds on customs and you’ll probably regret doing that.
This is not a recommended custom for most people, and @Brandon didn’t specify whether he was using the ST4 cores (or maybe he did and I missed it). If his custom does include ALL ST4s, this is technically within the recommendations, but I personally wouldn’t use this due to the density of those scripts.
The recommendations we give are not “hard” rules per se because we can’t account for EVERY available combination. We’re hoping that people would engage in a bit of common sense and not put the ST4 of four multistages and then loudly proclaim that it’s “technically within the recommendations.” Yes, technically it is. But it’s NOT a good custom, and since there’s no refunds on customs, the only person who gets hurt in this situation is the user.
Remember, we define “density” as the breadth of the module’s focus + the difficulty of achieving the target goal. Something like Inner Circle, even if the script is longer, is less dense because with most people, achieving the target goal is much much easier. Plus, IC has a very narrow focus, so it doesn’t consume a lot of mental resources to process. Mind’s Eye is another good example of a title / core with light density. It has a surprisingly long script (at least the Qv2 version), but it doesn’t cause a lot of reconciliation and the target goal is pretty easy to achieve. Emperor HoM, however, is VERY broad and covers a lot of ground, so we consider that HIGH density. When building a custom with something like HoM, you DEFINITELY don’t want to go over 4 cores. In fact, I’d recommend sticking with 1-2, then filling it with modules geared toward achieving HoM’s goals.
In the example @friday mentioned, the inclusion of WANTED throws the balance off. Ascension, Mogul, Limitless and IC all go together quite well, but throwing WANTED in the mix will increase the density a lot, because now you’re spinning the custom off into a completely different direction. The sub will still work, but it’ll take MUCH longer. You’d do better to create a custom with Ascension, Mogul, Limitless and IC, with modules that support that, and possibly run Wanted by itself at a lesser frequency (like every other listening day, as opposed to every listening day).
This probably isn’t making too much sense, and I think @Fire and I need to create a guide to help everyone build better customs / stacks and understand what subliminal density is. That being said, even “kitchensink” customs can work, they just take longer to work, so don’t run out and throw away the expensive customs you’ve built (this is not permission to run and build ridiculous customs and complain about them). The concept of density is really for the “min/maxer” crowd and it’ll be an advanced guide.
I’m going to sleep, ya’ll, rofl. I’ll elaborate more on this when I don’t have to struggle to write a coherent sentence.
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i was just curios, i have no intentions of screwing around, im asking to grasp more knowledge
honestly i think its stupid to find loopholes and ask questions in a certian way like lawyergames to find an excuse to rurn more or to skirt, thats not me im asking for my future customs just to know in the future and i could bookmark the answer, no intention into playing around.
What i meant is one custom having 3 cores or 2 cores
And the other custom having 4 cores
Not 7 cores in each custom, that will be mad
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Thanks for the great post.Gave me alot to think about for custom construction and confirmed a few things i was suspecting about perceived density
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Remember what day and time it was when you first read this sentence. 
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I shall remember.
This time.
Thanks.
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You guys are doing a great job, I saw it last night and I think it looks awesome. Great work guys.
My bad, the only ST4 core I’m using is Khan. However it’s getting dropped soon as I’m reorganising my customs.
This would be incredible. I personally find customs amazing to make however I also need to ensure they’re as focused as possible which is something I’m working on now so a future guide/reference point would be fantastic and think it would aid the community massively.
I think it was @SubliminalUser who suggested maybe a quiz type of thing to suggest which cores could go together with what modules. I know that would take a huge while, especially with modules constantly coming in however it’s still a great idea. (If it wasn’t SubliminalUser I apologise, but I believe it was…)
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Thanks for sharing dude! You’re definitely helping the community!
Thanks bro! & Thanks for adding in your support questions & answers. It’s appreciated!
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Wow this is really INTERESTING.
I think creating a guide on that topic is a fabulous idea. Another thing that might be now possible since you hired that new support agent with full access to the scripts, would be to further sensitive the whole support staff on that topic.
For example, I am considering a custom consisting of Emperor/Primal/Wanted/Sage Immortal/True Social Ultima Core and sent in a ticket asking if that is even possible or definitely too much.
The support was again super quick and extremely supportive but it was not telling me much besides “it is dense but I have seen denser”. And that is fine, I am not complaining here at all but am very satisfied with the support in general. But getting directly informed if one of the chosen cores is potentially making the whole custom MUCH denser resulting in it taking MUCH longer like with Wanted in the case above, would be just incredible.
Oh and by the way, you are more than welcome to comment on my custom 
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Another idea that popped up in mind right now.
Wouldn’t it make sense to give every core a certain density score? For example, Inner Circle = 1, Wanted = 2 and Khan St4 = 3 or so? And then everyone can have a bit clearer view of the density and you can mix and match until you reached a certain total number which is the maximum of recommendation.
This would still not solve all problems as the combinations of these cores are also relevant for density, but at least this would make it a bit easier than the fixed 3 cores rule. Or you can later create an A.I machine learning program where you can type in the proposed custom and it tells you exactly how dense the custom will be, if it would recommend it to you based if you are beginner or advanced, and what core you should take out for better results.
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this would be sick! i think theyre gonna include this one as their new article of how to make your own custom and not fall into 99 cores in one custom , reallly good idea friend
I think that’s a great idea and would be really helpful for all of us building customs - both new and advanced users.
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Thank you for taking the initiative and creating this thread! I hope this reduces the number of support tickets because I’m guessing many of the same questions get sent in.
@Meng123 as official archivist, what do you think could be done with this thread? Should it be pinned somewhere or perhaps also linked to the Unofficial FAQ page?
I don’t know if you’re able to see the edits made in the first post as a mod but I did initially say it should be Mengs thread but I feel like it’ll be good to combine the two.
One of the two parts of density—‘the difficulty of achieving the target goal’—is highly specific to each individual user and their life situation.
What could be estimated is ‘the breadth of the module’s focus’.
But attaching a quantitative number to it starts a slippery slope…
There’s an undercurrent to many of the questions that we ask here. We ask about this detail and that detail, and at the same time we’re often implicitly asking, ‘Am I going to be okay?’ ‘Is there hope for me?’ ‘Is this going to work?’
That’s fear. And it’s understandable because we’re trying to grow through our challenges. And that’s scary.
But no amount of numbers or quantification is going to eliminate the fear. Or make a personal growth and evolution process someone become utterly routine and predictable.
I’m sure what I’m pointing out is not the whole picture or the last word—sometimes it’s not about fear, and we just want more info—but it is one part of the picture.
Refined descriptions and explanations of depth, breadth, or whatever will be good. So it’s good to ask for it.
And the process will nevertheless probably remain somewhat unpredictable, like all growth processes.
Just adding 2 cents.
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Hmm,ive been adding any that are interesting from here to the other thread as well but probably a good idea to keep this thread too cause the other thread is becoming a bit of a monster to scroll through now.didnt think it would get that big this thread is so much easier to scroll still 
thanks for the offer to help with building my custom but unfortunately already sent it to be built already.pretty happy with the final module list though so hope they work.might be a bit dense though 
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