I’ll tell you why, lol. It’s quite simply because it’s a reality check for a lot of people.
Anyways, if RV, Saint or Fire give me any feedback, I’m perfectly open to that and they already know that I will take it in without question.
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What if, just bear with me what if this whole thing never happened? What if we just flag the first post about shapeshifting and RVconsultant or Saint, Fire will just take care of it? No bad blood would be spilled between Luther and others, like one is for one team and the other for other team. We would not have like 30 posts about it with passionate arguments, some of them angry, etc.
Saint, Fire would just close this thread even delete it, and when we will show this forum to someone else he or she would not find a whole discussion between members of this forum arguing against each other. No one would get hurt and we could focus more on important things like maintaining higher hype for upcoming stuff.
Edit: btw some of your posts can be published as a book due to its length.
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100%. Not sure how this got derailed but I just wanted to provide some facts on how other people are reacting to this as well.
Maybe a book should be written. Title being the Untold Tail Of SC Confusion. Written by yours truly @Deadpool
Edit: Deleted my post as there’s no point to this now. Just going to ignore it.
You are flattering me. I am not a writer 
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@Plutus btw this was not meant specifically only for you.
The English language has this weird thing with some words like YOU that you sometimes never know if it is singular or plural.
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I read this wrong at first glance.
I actually don’t care if people know I run subliminals. I’ve run Khan for so long, I’m extremely unhinged and don’t really care what people think.
What I meant about this:
Most people when I tell them about subliminals, they type it in YouTube… and boom the YouTube subliminal space is full of absolute nonsense. Shifting into mermaids, dragons, werewolfs, gain lbs of fat overnight, activate your pineal gland, remove your chakras, “active kundalini instantly”. For the record, this was posted just 3 days ago:
Title:
“LOVEFIELD DIGITAL TALISMAN - PINEAL GLAND ACTIVATOR AND THIRD EYE OPENER (TRY IT, IT WORKS!”
This is literally what I’m talking about. In the comments of those YouTube subliminals, it’s literally just crazy, young and inexperienced people with a bunch of trauma.
Subliminal Club is the real deal. They have stuff for actual successful go-getters, high status people, celebrities, CEO’s, closers, streamers, pro-gamers, influencers, university professors. Do you understand my point, the disconnect?
Do you see the disconnect?
If I go up to them, they know I’m not like that guy and they will trust me. However, the point is… they need me to have the justification and trust to jump into Subliminals.
Otherwise the doorway for first impression is absolutely fucked.
My gripe is not what people think about me, it’s with all of the growth, transformation, healing, and empowerment (all of which they could desperately use to change their life and positively affect the world for the better) that they are missing out on, due to a false misrepresentation and absolutely ridiculous impression of Subliminals in general created by flat out crazy people.
Everytime I come across some bullshit, I’ve reminded of that. That might not irk the average person here. Most people aren’t thinking about the outside looking in, they’re focused on themselves and I completely get that. I’ve gotten so many results from these subliminals, I naturally began to start thinking about the bigger picture and how I can help others.
People like you, and me are good to go. But what about the next person? Would you not like for Subliminal Club to grow?
Imagine someone out there with traumas, low self-esteem, or living in poverty… running away from Subliminal Club, all because of being turned off by insane and ridiculous nonsense.
That’s my gripe, and that’s why I have the reaction that I do… aside from basic common sense.
That’s why:
I’m one of the most aggressively vocal advocators for action on the entire forum.
One of the most aggressively vocal advocators for self love on the entire forum.
The most vocal anti-porn person on the entire forum.
The most vocal “get of your comfort zone” (move the goal post) person on the entire forum.
One of the most vocal “fuck inadequacy” person on the entire forum.
One of the most vocal pro-masculinity person on the entire forum.
I’m not quiet about shit, lol because that’s not what growth is. I’m not actually invested in this as much anyone thinks, I’m just creating discussion in the hopes that maybe, possibly, there can be some change in attitude or awareness about this issue - that’s all.
Nobody did that, lol. Everyone just entertained it… that’s literally why we’re here… because I’m the only one that spoke up, expressed my lack of tolerance and then people got upset.
Look at the original post, and look at how how many people entertained all of that hallucinogenic, Satan cutting, meeting with Jesus, activated kundalini crap… actually giving him recommendations for spiritual titles such as RoS and ROM.
Imagine giving a person like this RoS - that in itself is an entirely different dissonance based on irresponsibility.
Now, that I’ve created all this focus and discussion… what you proposed @Deadpool can actually take place as people have more awareness.
Which is literally the whole point of what I’m doing.
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I have personally different approach than you. I’d rather save my energy if I see any nonsense I ignore it. It also saves my sanity and redirects my energy to something more useful but I am human after all as well or rather to say superhero and sometimes get caught in this kind of entertainment as well.
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And do not be bad to @IRON , she is a lady after all so we gotta be nice to her
You know gentlemen’s stuff.
I’m moving on from the discussion. In the future I will just flag them and move on.
Everyone’s happy, and we can all go back to kicking ass.
@BreathingJaguar, @IRON, @Parsifal I apologize if I was rude, disrespectful, out of pocket, or out of line. I take full accountability and I’m moving on.
If RV, Saint, or Fire have any feedback to give me whether publically or privately… they know that I’m 101% open to it without argument.
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No bad blood brother. Another day another slay : )
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So the moral story of all of this is do not do bad blood because you know heart diseases, cardiovascular problems, etc.
Having good blood is important
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I realized that after I’ve hit send. But you spoke about the impression this forum could make on newbies. Me beeing here for roughly three months, I’m still considering me a newbie. I look at knowledgeable longtime members, such as you, for guidance. Therefore I didn’t delete the post.
As I stated earlier, I’m new here and still learning the ropes. And I have to admit that I turned cynical over all the injustice and insanity of the last 8 years.
Understandable? Yes.
Productive? No.
In my believe, for achieving a goal in a discussion, it’s best to keep a calm head and state your concerns without attacking someone.
Whenever I get attacked I automatically go in a defensive position. Even if the other person is right, I couldn’t acknowledge that because I felt attacked.
It’s slowly healing with me, in a way that I can acknowledge his truth afterwards.
If the person would have instead just stated the fact without attacking me, it would have been much easier to agree that I wasn’t right.
I believe it’s a a question of ROI. If I can keep the emotions out, can state my case without the other person feeling attacked, I will get what I want easier.
Just something like:
"Hey, Sorry to inform you, but this forum isn’t that place to discuss this stuff. There are clear rules about that. " Could have been much more effective.
You’re so invested in this debate, that you spned a lot of energy (which you are free to do if you want) for result you seem not to like.
That’s my point.
I would just state my point unemotional, flag it an go elsewhere. RV knows his stuff
No hard feelings from my side. I appreciate your opinions.
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Okay. Good to see that this issue is resolved and no hard feelings between all of you.
And yes, please flag the post that seem out of the ordinary to any of you and move on. Engaging in them will result in loads of wasted energy like several of you have rightly said.
I will admit I have done the same before (as in fueling the fire thinking am stopping it) but at the end of the day it isn’t productive and we feel tired from all that talking/writing. It’s effort which is better spent elsewhere to improve our lives and through that help others.
@BreathingJaguar - would recommend the Subliminal Club Black section of the forum for you if you want to discuss esoteric topics. That way you can discuss these sort of material with like minded folks.
Cheers!
EDIT: I forgot to mention that the possibikity of having bad blood between you and others is also high when you have these kind of debates. It is better to avoid this and have a more relaxed discussion on the forum.
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I mean that old train has it’s charm
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Btw about flagging posts and not engaging this was already said in the past by either Rvconsultant or by Campfire policy so this is not a new thing. We just forgot about that.
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Seems like you and some others don’t understand my point, lol.
I will summarize it for you:
- Person makes a thread talking about all types of nutty, insane and unsettling nonsense.
- Everyone actually entertains him and gives him recommendations.
I look at his post, and then I look at the fact that people are entertaining him as normal… and my impression is that there is literally zero standard here - something that irks me for reasons I have mentioned.
I’m attacking #2. Everything you’re saying about flagging and going elsewhere, is literally what I’m advocating for. People did not flag him, they went along and actually gave recommendations.
Go and see, it’s literally in the thread. They did that because they did not see the issue.
That’s a problem, and that’s a mindset of people in the community here which I’m addressing.
You can make discussions about
- the importance of taking action
- the importance of having a consistent stack
and also…
- flagging and not entertaining nonsensical bullshit
- what classifies as bullshit
- not giving subliminal recommendations to clearly unstable people
Of course my method of doing this, could be done in a more cordial manner. However, I don’t think that’s effective. I have to be authentic with the dissonance for 2 reasons. Firstly because this is ridiculous stuff… literally, shapeshifting, kundalini, satan, etc it’s the same bullshit and it’s all “what in the world is this” level shit. Secondly and more importantly, I feel that the authenticity is needed, to give people insight into the level of dissonance it creates in normal people, help them see the why of the issue and what needs to be flagged/not entertained because it seems like people forgot and had no awareness of outside looking in perception.
After all, folks read his post, didn’t even blink and then said “Ah yes, Revelation of Spirit, yes go and run that”.
Made me feel like I’m in a twilight zone, on the one forum that I visit regularly. It’s like, nah fuck that I’m going to be vocal about stuff.
@Parsifal now maybe you understand my point, lol.
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Of course, likewise.
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Yeah. I got your point.
Next time I discover a thread like this, I’ll try my recommendations myself.
Not entertaining this stuff, just reminding everyone what is appropriate in here in a calm manner.
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You can also wish everyone to have a nice holiday alongside those lines
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marry early Christmas everyone
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