For years now, I have been dealing permanent mindchatter and obsessive thoughts. It has become increasingly difficult to achieve stillness of mind. Any one has an idea or a strategy (sub or not) to calm down the crazy mind chatter, obsessive thoughts and to train attention?
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If you live on busy area, try going to a relaxing place like at the coast or listening to the rain falls. Mind chatter becomes worst if your computer time is longer. Try closing your eye and deep breathes in the park. Walk or Jog at the park will also work.
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Mediatation I find works best for a quiet and peaceful mind. With practice you start bringing mediation with you into daily life, and that’s where things really starts to change.
It’s all about IMO training the mind, make it a happy, positive, and healthy mind, because you will never get rid of it as long as you’re in this human body. But what you can do is make it more wholesome by training it to go there by default.
Also smiling is underrated, I smile all day now, just a small little Buddha smile, and it boosts my dopamine and seretonin all day now. It has become habit now, and I don’t think about it at all.
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Also by resisting thoughts and emotions, you are creating more and more tension. When you instead relax into that tension and let go of it, your mind relaxes and have less thoughts. It’s that craving to control that brings with it the suffering and added mental tension. I’ve found through my practice, that the sooner I can let go and relax that tension and tightness, the quicker the mind goes back into a serene and quiet state.
So in a way you gain control by actually letting go of control. Drop the craving to control and relax, then it goes away, because you are not feeding it anymore. This is also masculine polarity and a great way to train yourself. Also why IMO it’s so important for men who has been supressing a lot of emotions during their younger years, to actually learn to feel them, let it all come up. If you don’t and just try to be stoic, you are still trying to supress it, like putting a plaster on a gunshot wound…
This is freedom to me, to still have goals and be on a mission, but not with the all that tension that creates with it suffering. Life is about having fun doing what you love IMO. You can still push yourself with these negative and painful emotions as driver, but for how long, and what kind of happiness can you really expect from it? The opposite would be releasing painful things and mind states, and relaxing, while still doing the same work…
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QLM stage 1 and stage 4 did not help me with this.
but maybe stage 3 could?
also, maybe as above/so below could help?
i remember reading a review where someone said it help put the mind in a meditative state very easily.
this is a very good thread idea and im hoping a lot of people will p[articiapte.
@Azriel @Skadoosh @Malkuth can you guys please suggest some titles you think can help with this?
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There are many possible answer to this question.
Without knowing you or having more information, I fear that our answers will mostly be shots in the dark.
Many things can possibly help. But what will be most effective for you?
One data measure that would help:
In your daily observations, what are the times and what are the circumstances during which you find that your mental chatter increases or decreases? What seem to be the triggers or the concomittant factors?
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I’ve been deliberately working on increasing my presence for a week now, and i’ve gotten to a point where i can notice myself drifting out of presence throughout the day.
I feel much more connected to the “source” and feel much more in control of my mind which tries to create a fake “map” of the reality which it controls, all the time.
How did I do it?
I listened to Eckhart tolle’s audiobook on “practicing the power of now” and listened to tolle’s YouTube vids; and tried applying his stuff while listening.
Tolle is so good at explaining about this process that just listening or reading his stuff gets u more present.
Good luck on ur efforts to get more connected to the “being”. This act of deliberate evolution is highly rewarding, although u shouldn’t seek spiritual growth for egoic gains.
Ps. I tried a meditation app called “Atom” (it has high rating in app store), and didn’t feel like it helped me much. I found Tolle’s stuff much more effective.
I suffer from it too. I’m also diagnosed with OCD. I don’t think you can completely get rid of it, but it can be managed.
What has helped me is meditation. I do a meditation where I focus on my brain and notice all the thoughts and sensations going on and allowing them to pass. I also do guided body scan/Yoga Nidra meditation, which helps me to get out of my head and into the body.
In addition to meditation, I make sure to have some time where I don’t consume any information or media, giving my mind the space to wander and do its thing. For example, I take walks without any distractions, allowing my mind to clear itself, or drive without any music, podcast or audiobook.
Since running Revelation of Mind, I have been able to “control” my thoughts better and have experienced more peace inside my head. Maybe you can give that a try?
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Honestly, my run of Dragon Reborn helped a lot. I was a ruminating, neurotic, anxious guy who was stuck in hypervigilance, always thinking, worrying and analyzing. Ocd since 8 yrs old.
My mind is so much more quiet. DR cleared a lot of issues driving the mental noise I had. I literally do not worry anymore.
I also started doing neurofeedback therapy a month ago mainly to correct nervous system dysregulation and its going well.
That’s my 2 cents.
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Journaling is the answer brother, get all those thoughts out of your head and onto paper
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I can confirm this. My self talk has dramatically improved since I added LBfH to my custom. I gotta say, it’s been a great experience so far.
Edit: Realized op was looking for stillness of mind as well. Deep State module with meditation? I like the calm from RoM.
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I wasn’t talking about self-talk at all. I ran LBFH for 4 rounds. It dramatically improved the quality of my thoughts but it doesn’t do anything as far as keeping you focused.
What I’m talking about is that it’s very difficult for me to stay in the “now”. I get very easily distracted, to the point where sometimes it feels like someone else is running my mind. How can I develop that ability to easily focus and not let constant random thoughts take control of my mind? Extreme distractibility and extreme scatterbrainess is a major issue in my life. That’s what I’m talking about.
@oloy mentioned “The Power Of Now”, I think that’s a good suggestion.
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Do you workout lol
I’d say go for a “digital detox”.
In my opinion, the biggest reason for why people have trouble focusing or being present is because of the internet.
Digital Overload + FOMO + Idealization (detachment from yourself through constant comparison) + dissociation (staring at screens) + Information Overload, etc. The list goes on. Most people’s awareness has been pulled out of them and splattered. They are walking products.
This artificial digital world era is extremely new and it comes with ramifications. Far more than people think about.
So much so… that by default, unless you’ve taken the necessary action and thought to mitigate those ramifications - then you will screw yourself over.
Most people think that this stuff is normal and everything is all fine and dandy - it’s not. The damage is acclimative… it doesn’t happen overnight. Attention spans are on a decline.
If you were to go nomad mode, out in nature without any digital stimuli for a year… all of your “overthinking” and inability to be present would be eliminated.
Your ability to be present in real life, naturally gets hijacked the more your brain gets attuned to the internet world. I would even go as far to say that “mindfulness practices” such as meditation have only become popular in the mainstream as a response to this.
This is all my opinion, lol.
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Lol just don’t try to stop it. Stop resisting.
Meditate more. Like 20 mins a day. Not the “Quiet your mind” type of meditation but literally the Therapy Meditation where you just do a brain dump and observe whatever thought comes up and expand on it
Try to do that everyday.
After 2 years of meditation your thoughts become silent and it only comes on when u need it
Also idk if it’s Alcohol. But I’ve never drank it in my life so Im pretty sure it contributes to it,
Have you ran Revelation of Mind? This title drastically removed my mind-chatter. It took me by surprise.
I don’t mind mind-chatter (pun intended) due to frequent meditation but while running Revelation of Mind, I one day suddenly realized that my mind was quiet. Felt awesome as if tenants who were living rent free in my “mind palace” all got up and left lol.
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RoM is definitely on my list, as soon as I’m done with SE. I might even combine it with SE.
That’s a great way to put it. Those “tenants” have been living in my mind for too long now. It’s eviction time. 
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