To help community i will try it with drred since it sounds like it would go well
Not sure if I missed the info, but any target moment for launch of EoG and Seductress as of now?
OMG!! 
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Given that @SaintSovereign @Fire are looking for feedback on the title released a couple of days ago to potentially add to the upcoming updated EOG it makes me so excited for its release and especially to the read the sales page
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Important post for discussion (originally on Genesis: Art of Happiness) thread:
That’s generally what it is, and why we recommend microloops for new titles, allowing them to ease into the scripting. And that’s one of the reasons we added the “Main Features” section. While it says main features, especially with this title, that’s ALL the features. It’s the entire script, summarized and divided into points. That way, if you’re monitoring your thoughts during recon, you can directly correlate those thoughts with a particular feature and then take action. Part of the Zero Point Union philosophy. As we stated, knowing more about “how it works” will allow you to take more conscious, free action, as you can ascertain from direct experience what features are working well and which are troublesome for you.
For example, and we’ll go into this more in the future – part of the (optional) Zero Point Union process:
With this style of copy, you can determine how you’d respond to running a title simply by reading the copy while deeply self-introspecting. Any feature that causes a visceral reaction – good or bad – write it down and analyze the concept deeply to help identify and root out any deep issues before even buying the product. Have a private journal just discussing the concepts and your ideas.
Go to ChatGPT (or your preferred AI service or LLM) and prompt it to give you an in-depth analysis of both the concept itself and your ideas on it. Monitor how you feel about those responses, journal some more, contemplate, engage, etc. Spend a few days doing this and you now have an individualized “map” of your potential responses to a particular feature (or title – if you’re already set on running something, you can use this method to gauge a less granular response).
Use this map to help you understand your responses to the script, resolve recon, or decide if you even want to use the title. Another really good side effect to this method is that you’ve essentially performed a “purification” process that helps resolve many of the surface level issues linked to a particular concept (like obtaining true happiness and joy in life in a world that seems to have lost it’s collective mind), and bring the deeper issues to the surface, so moments of recon don’t feel pointless or aimless. You’ll be able to understand that what we call “recon” is essentially, unbalanced opposites. The expectations and desires of the inner don’t match the outer circumstances, triggering a sense of discomfort and frustration.
It’s no different than the feeling you get when being passed over for a promotion, or losing the partner of your dreams to another person. And the “secret” to resolving recon, or even situations like this, is to bring the fears and concerns into the conscious mind for resolution through action. Hence why we say, “take action.” Taking action helps resolve the opposites because through experience, you re-shape and re-frame your mindset to learn a lesson from it (the NSE assists with this process greatly).
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Return to Wonder.
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Here’s my initial feedback:
2 loops in (30 sec and 5 min) and AoH might be the second most important title in my stack currently.
First result is that I’ve been able to solve this question for myself, it just hit me after 30s loop
Second is that I started get a lot of mindful moments in which I’m just overflowing with this stable calm joyful and happy feeling
Third is that I see the activation of the “Joy through Play” scripting in my thinking. But I have not adapted my routines for that YET
Fourth is the activation of “Spaces for Happiness” scripting. Realized it just now that this is the result of the sub lol, I re-arranged my room for a bit so it’s way more comfortable now.
Actually just looking at it now, I see almost every point being manifested in my thinking and I’m already changing my life structure to integrate them. I’m too lazy to describe everything tbh lol
For me, it seems that it’s not only a happiness sub but also a success subliminal that is insanely versatile and stacks with any title.
Achieving goals doesn’t require you to “endure the grind”. You can achieve everything with a smile on your face - that’s my perspective since starting the title
Thank you for your work
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This right here is an example of what I was referring to when I was confused about running strictly micro loops or what @Fire said multiple times about not being concerned about getting the entire script. I see it as untapped potential. Unless I’m missing the point entirely. If that’s the case I understand. It just seems that if someone is stuck in recon like you stated " their external results or goals don’t match their subconscious beliefs, structures , or whatever. I’m paraphrasing here.
That every title or track is essentially a mini four stage. If a person is only running a fraction of the entire fifteen minutes are they ultimately accepting that this is the furthest they can go? That there is inherently a ceiling for what’s possible for someone despite what their goals and dreams are? Does that make sense? Am I wrong? If I am I’m fine with that.
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Yes.
Imagine a full loop as a workout routine for athletes.
If you’re not an athlete, would you use the same routine?
You’ll most likely use one that’s more suited for your needs. Yes there are untapped potentials from not going as hard as an athlete, but you don’t need it.
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That I understand one hundred percent. I was thinking it was a building process. Apparently not. That’s fine. I was curious
I shall blow up my stack for the greater good… not only the greater good of man, but also, of man kind.
For Sub Club.
FOR EOG’s EFFECTIVENESS!
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I’m not sure what the official response would be, but for me, I have two main responses:
- Whether you listen for 30 seconds or for 15 minutes, at some point you’ll stop. And that, for that day, will be the listening limit. So listening for longer doesn’t really remove this question for me. And anyway, I don’t look at the ‘listening limit’ as representing a person’s personal development ceiling. To me those are two different things. To me ‘listening limit’ is more like ‘stride length’ when walking.
This person has a very long stride length:
This person, in contrast, has a very short stride length:
That has nothing to do with how long and how far either is willing to walk. Or how far they will travel.
- I support looking at your life more than looking at the subs. You choose your goals and targets. And then you play the subs to support them. I see the subliminal as similar to a taxi, or a car, or a rocket ship. The vehicle will get you where you want to go. But you are the one who chooses your destination. Then having chosen your destination, you just ride until you get there. In other words, it’s not like just hopping into a taxi cab and saying, ‘Take me somewhere great! Somewhere better than the places I’ve been!’ and then going to sleep.
What I’m saying there can be exaggerated. We are all clearly on journeys of discovery, and you don’t need to know everything or even most things. But just when it comes to your own happiness and satisfaction, it’s good to take some time to clarify some of the specifics. Otherwise, you can get stuck in an eternal ‘What if…’ kind of situation, or you can keep ‘moving the goalposts’ every time you achieve something. For people who do not have those patterns, they could just leave everything open, not choose any goals, and enjoy the journey. For people who tend to feel urgency, though, periodically choosing specific goals and milestones is a good way to preserve peace of mind.
So to summarize all that:
A shorter loop is a gentler ride.
A gentler ride will still get you to your destination…
But it helps a lot to know your destination.
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Put alternately:
these steps:
and these steps:
Will both take you to the top of the exact same mountain.
Which stairs would you rather take?
And for that matter, which ones do you think would get you there faster?
Bigger is not always best, or most effective/efficient.
Whichever one fits you best is going to be the one that best carries you to your potential. (and beyond).
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Those guys were doing the Lord’s work.
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Stark OG 
well i live in hope hahahaha
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When is Symmetry: Seductress coming? 
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Same question regarding seductress’s release date here @SaintSovereign any estimation avaliable yet?
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I think the goal is to progress towards the full loop eventually, however starting with 30s-3 minutes is typically a good idea to get a feel for the title.
I’ve noticed, especially when I don’t do a proper stack rotation and go right into trying a new title, going right into 5-15 mins actually gives me diminished results because I can’t process/feel overloaded.
Once you get comfortable with the title, your seeing results and the recon is manageable then bump it up.
It’s not about the hitting rhe potential as much, as running what you can to get some form of results.
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