It’s always great reading your journals re: running subs. I doubt most other producers are at open about their own results from running these things.
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These posts would seem to indicate that, at least in the case of username Zen, stopping at the 5 minute mark is sufficient.
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Wow… well that changes things!
rofl, a first.
Just got a text from @Fire, who’s allegedly cracking up because I quoted the script of a title in my stack. Even though I’ve read them, it’s not like I commit them to memory, especially considering that I read so many. When you all ask me questions, I actually go back and re-read the script to get the correct answer.
That being said, it’s actually a very odd feeling doing this without realizing it. Like, is this how you guys feel when we tell you that you quoted the script? 
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in my case, it makes me feel like I just got the highest grades in a course 
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Chosen from Within has to be my fav at the moment,
I think it’s missing Harmonic Singularity though, that would complete it.
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That’s a pretty cool finding. It makes sense, as you also mentioned gaining more harmonious control over your emotions.
Emotional equilibrium, that’s a nice little addition to the experimental sequel of the ZP Flagship Title. Very cool.
Has running CFW changed yours and Fire’s ideas of what to put in Chosen ZPv2 after the preview has run its course to the both of y’all’s satisfaction?
Have you also noticed mental clarity/acuity benefits that you wouldn’t attribute to having used Limitless ZP?
Follow-up, are you seeing any improvement in your ability to stay detached in situations in your life?
Oh, why here, have another! Since you have been running CFW, would you say that it has been ‘peeling’ illusory layers off of how you perceived past situations, particularly the more life changing ones you’ve experienced? What I mean is, basically removing any blinders you may have consciously or unconsciously placed on your perception of past happenings to help you not only see the situation differently and less painfully, but more authentically?
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That would be so cool. Can I test it?
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You just helped me immensely there without realizing it. For as long as I can remember I have had ridiculous trust issues. It’s made me incredibly anxious probably to the point of mild paranoia at times. Seems like running CFW is what I need
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@SaintSovereign I would like to test it If you like, was looking at the modules so long after the original zp test.
However buy now the difference between qv2 and zp is like a t ford versus a ferrari.
Zp until end of time would be something.
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Incredible insight here.
I, like many, have had great difficulty in trusting others because I’ve had every person that’s ever been close to me break my trust. I like to rationalize my distrust of others as me understanding the notion of precedent, but when I read your characterization of the ‘alpha’ I instantly get goosebumps down my spine as I’m confronted with my fear of trusting being a major roadblock to my own personal growth.
Damn, this journal does not disappoint. Tempted to go to post 1 and read literally everything in here.
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Also reading “Until the End of Time” makes me play this song in my head every time:
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I wouldn’t have seen this particular entry if @James hadn’t quoted it. Your posts have been piercingly introspective lately, I’m glad he did. As to what I quoted…
Well. Let he who has never sinned be the one to absolve you.
While I wait for that impossibility, if I may, I’d like to present a different way of looking at the idea of absolving yourself of past deeds. Absolving implies judgement, which implies other things in a chain that I see only ending in the unwillingness to forgive one’s self or another.
Well, you seem to be finding the ability to forgive yourself. So… Once you truly have internalized your burgeoning inner reality, though (I feel like ‘newality’ should be a thing)… What, besides your memories, is there left to actually absolve?
I won’t go into the obvious point that what we do affects others, for better or for worse. I was simply focusing on a singular point.
Edit: P.S of course, you reserve the right to judge whomever as you please, for you’re the only one whose opinion truly matters in this and all you are and will be, anyway. You said something recently about being the sole… Something. Jury? Sum’n.
But fax. Big fax. A wise man once said, “Only God can judge me.”
I personally think it has bigger things on its mental, though.
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It’s been a weird feeling almost daily especially after having run Dragon Reborn. I will think back to something I did , said , or how I behaved and question myself as to how I thought any of it was ok. It hurts but it also makes me curious about how the other person felt or even feel now if they ever think about it.
I was a horrible person and I used a lot of people and fucked over a few and I am not proud of it . I am trying not to cry while I type this out but it’s difficult.
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I think that knowing my past and working to become a better person I find it incredibly difficult to deal with anyone who displays zero empathy , shows zero emotion , or is incredibly critical and negative.
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@SaintSovereign I am so incredibly grateful to you and @Fire for creating Subliminal Club
You two literally have saved my life without knowing it. Thank you both so much
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I’m curious if Sage Immortal ZP would help with that?
In a stack with CFW.
Isn’t that what Sage Immortal is for or am I misunderstanding the objectives? Clarity and wisdom?
How long did you run DR for in total? As I’ve said a couple of times before, I could definitely see the changes from the ‘you’ that was around when I first found SubClub to the current guy and if I remember correctly, I seem to recall noticing even deeper changes in (that sounds weird, since I only read your words) you. ‘About’ you doesn’t work and neither does ‘within’.
Whatever it is, it’s been seent.
Have people in your life commented on this, noticing signs of your emotional and mental development into the maturity and sense of self-goodness that the majority of us have witnessed?
'Cause man, I gotta say, having been a silent supporter of yours for awhile, it’s has felt nigh on pride what I feel for you, man.
You recognized something about yourself that you decided you had had enough of, and took action to change it. Based on what you just said, it’s gotten to the level of your world-view and helped you reconnect with your empathetic nature. That’s a win.
I’m only 28, but in my teeny little flicker of living thus far, I’ve noticed that when it gets to the point where one not only realizes that their way of living isn’t only affecting them but others as well, and actually care how that feels for the other person, people really begin to come in touch with who they are and want to be.
Better out than in. Go ahead, I promise I’ll look away.
Keep on keeping on, brother. We’re all doing our best with what we have, and that’s all we can do.
I used to be all three. Defense mechanism, emotional walls, rough childhood, global warming, inflation, being too cool for school…ya know.
Actually, that’s part of the reason that my posts vary in flavor from introspective, musing, and deep with random, sudden bursts of scintillating personality.
The girl next door I used to play guitar with when I was a kid said that I have a scintillating personality to me, once. After being impressed that someone my age said a word that I had no definition for and after I excused myself to run and find a dictionary to correct this divine oversight, I never forgot the word
‘Cause that’s how I am in real life. I chose a long time ago to present myself online in any forum or media exactly as I am face-to-face like the friggin’ blessing I am.
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