Saint Sovereign's Journal (HERO Origins + Khan Black ST 4)

What you mean vanish and return?

The recommendation is 1 on and 1 off. So it seems like 1 loop a week is more than enough…?

Let’s have that discussion in my journal, and not derail the one from SaintSovereign.

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Did three minutes of Chosen From Within. Got hours of bliss. I think three minutes may be the best for me.

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Just from the “regular” ZP store/strength? or is yours still a custom?

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I’ve been doing Emperor and Emperor HOM in 3 minute loops every other time I run each. Feel the effects with ZERO overloads or recon. Soon as I hit the 5-minute mark there is usually some sort of ‘drag’/recon.

I’m not sure about perceptual shifts but the self effects kick in immediately and then things seem to really be in full flow/effect several hours later

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On the CFW train again? You sure because last time it fucked you up a lot, didn’t it? :wink:

But yeah, Chosen 3 minutes yesterday was SUPER and still is. I think I posted it somewhere else. My new go-to. Especially with customs!

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For how many days do the results last for you?

15 mins I can do one loop every 14 days easily
3 mins, hm the effects seem to skyrocket the first day and vanish the next day

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I guess then it only depend on how you prefer learning a skill
A big time once for 2 week
Or a little bit every day or so with a greater amount of total time but less focus ?

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Or both :wink:

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So I’m messing with 3 minute loops now for my custom. Still not quite as heavy as 5 minutes, but I feel like I could get away with even shorter. Would 1 minute be a bad idea?

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Mind blown :exploding_head:

You’re a merger of worlds lmao

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So run the sub 3 min in then stop it.
The next time you listen to it must you start from the 3 min mark? Or from the begining ?

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From the beginning. Always.

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I said it before and I am gonna say it again: people REALLY read a bit too much in saints comments, especially personal experiences. There still has not been an official ‘5/7 minutes is better, everyone switch!’ announcement - and it feels like people will ask if they can run their sub for 15 seconds in two weeks, lol.

Without knowing the script, I cannot imagine you’d get the whole thing in just one minute.

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Can playing 3/5 minutes also be done with a 20-module custom, or is that not enough time to “get through” all 20 modules?

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It definitely feels like I can run yet another loop the next day…

It’s impossible to get the whole thing in just 7 minutes .
:point_down::point_down::point_down:

You can’t really work with that though, since you can easily overlap 3-4 ‘voices’ and affirmations at the same time, still being able to understand each one of them.

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Is this the case in zp ? I don’t know but from the first virsion of subs here this was the case 2 voices according to the instructions manual .

And if this is the case now . Again you can’t have the(( whole ))script in 7 minutes . Not mentioning the customs . So you will get smth by listening to 3 m or 7m but the whole script ?!! This question @SaintSovereign can answer? I respect your choice if you’re not willing to answer this .

Running theory right now is the first minute is ZP Primer, and then in 2 minute stints you get the whole script each.

But then again NOBODY KNOWS SHIT about this, so why we debating this. Just try the 3 minutes as SAINT mentioned above :slight_smile:

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