Saint Sovereign's Journal (HERO Origins + Khan Black ST 4)

You can’t really work with that though, since you can easily overlap 3-4 ‘voices’ and affirmations at the same time, still being able to understand each one of them.

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Is this the case in zp ? I don’t know but from the first virsion of subs here this was the case 2 voices according to the instructions manual .

And if this is the case now . Again you can’t have the(( whole ))script in 7 minutes . Not mentioning the customs . So you will get smth by listening to 3 m or 7m but the whole script ?!! This question @SaintSovereign can answer? I respect your choice if you’re not willing to answer this .

Running theory right now is the first minute is ZP Primer, and then in 2 minute stints you get the whole script each.

But then again NOBODY KNOWS SHIT about this, so why we debating this. Just try the 3 minutes as SAINT mentioned above :slight_smile:

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Y’all — either try the three minutes or don’t.

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Pretty much why I asked. Nobody besides saint and fire know how these are built. Past experiences have taught me the standard recommendations for these subs don’t work as well for me so abandoning the one size fits all approach is beneficial. If either of them advise 1 minute is a dumb idea then I wouldn’t do it. It’s all about finding what works the best for my own mind.

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Oh dang my theory became canon (or at least the running theory) AND saint liked your comment? Must be true then.

I be da new subliminal philosopher, now hold mah beer while i kiss yo gurlfrand

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I think he liked it because of the second part :wink: But take that beer!

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I’ve been starting from where I left off in 2-minute increments unless it’s a new week.
Although I don’t think it matters. I’ve been operating under the assumption that there is a 1 minute primer at the beginning and the whole script every 2 minutes based off something @Billions shared. I have no idea if this is accurate.

edit: just read further down and this was all said above lol

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It’s not. Stop trying to “figure it out,” or I’ll have to stop posting my experiments. :stuck_out_tongue:

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:upside_down_face: ok!

Should we always start the sub from the beginning then next time running it if running in increments of less than the whole 15 minutes (3,5, 7 min)

This plus does the 3 minutes also apply to customs?

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Fascinating.

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@SaintSovereign do you listen to your subs when youre awake or asleep?
feeling curios :slight_smile:

what do you recommend personally :smiley:

If I remember correctly he listen to it before sleeping to wake up along the shift

But he may have changed wth all his experiment ahahaha

I listen to the subs the same way, so just before sleeping (plus it gives awesome dreams lol)

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Awake. Usually at night, around 8pm.

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We’re thinking of nerfing ZP a bit. We tested this thing extensively, and we know what the recon looks like and feels like at pretty much every level, and I keep seeing people consistently talk about how bad their recon is, and when they explain what they’re going through, it’s CLEARLY the result of overexposure. We’ve put warnings everywhere, including in a new version of the “New Order” email, which has at the top:


Your order is complete! Your order number (necessary for support) is: #91780

You can now access your downloads by clicking the links below, or clicking HERE. You can also access your downloads by visiting SubliminalClub.com, clicking “My Account,” and clicking “Downloads” on the left sidebar.

Please be sure to read the instruction manual. You can click the following link, or download it below: “General Instructions - PLEASE READ BEFORE USE!” It contains certain safety information as well as the proper and safe way to listen to your new subliminal program. Please pay close attention to the instructions regarding overexposure (listening more than the recommended guidelines).

If you have any questions, comments or concerns, please feel free to submit a ticket at our support portal @ https://support.subliminalclub.com

You can also visit our friendly community forum at SubliminalResults.com.


The responsible thing to do is to pull it back a bit and allow those who have exhibited an ability to experiment to access the more powerful versions. But for now, we are discussing whether we should even release new titles under the current ZP power level.

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Nerfing it for the whole community seems like a bit of overkill, as if we are all being punished for the lack of reading comprehension of others.

I listen to two subs, every other day, for either 5, 7, 9, or rarely the full 15 minutes.
I experimented once with 3 subs at 5 minutes each in one sitting, definitely felt overexposed the next day, and returned to my regular routine.

I think keeping it at the current power level is fine.
If anything, in my opinion, make that disclaimer ALL CAPS AND BIG RED LETTERS so the people not following directions have something that forces them to pay attention.

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Wouldn’t they just double up on the reduced power one to get what they think is the more powerful zp?

I get why you want to do this, but it seems like someone’s always gonna think they’re the exception to the rule.

If you were to nerf it a bit would the 15 minutes of exposure effectively be the same power level as a 3 minute loop of the current one? Or is it different than that?

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What is the cause of the issue? Is it that the recommended 15 minutes once every second day is causing too much recon? Or do you think that people are overexposing themselves by going beyond standard listening instructions?

Personally I love the 3-5 minute listening range, and would love if that was a more formal recommendation with the option to listen up to 15 minutes for “advanced” listeners or whatever.

Instead of having to watch the clock so that I only listen to 3 minutes of my track, what if the track was naturally 3 minutes, and you can listen to up to 5 loops of it per listening day.

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