Haha no issues, @subliminalguy. The concern is legitimate. Even am sometimes wondering whether I should start Khan all over again with just itself (or another SubClub title all by itself). But I will try this “over-stacking” experiment out until my intuition tells me otherwise.
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My concern for you is totally different.
Remember what I had told @mecharc about day-to-day Actions?
If you’re not taking any Khan-Actions (Social), you might as well remove it.
There is no programming going on, because nothing from Conscious Reality is being processed with the script.
QL is different, it can work on anything, including posts on this forum.
I speak from experience when I say SC subs don’t work without Actions. I spent several months on Ev1 & Ev2 with zero measurable results, before I started figuring out how to make use of this technology.
It pains me to see so many taking the same pointless journey, waiting for the subs to kick in.
Worse - most will never figure out. They’ll change products, change companies, or give up on subliminals altogether.
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Can it get anymore accurate? Please admins bookmark this post at the top of the forum.
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There’s quite a bit of subtlety underlying this point.
The same point is made in magick.
And it’s subtle there too.
The nature of action. The determination of appropriate action.
It requires faith. In yourself.
The willingness to accept that your ideas have merit.
That in itself is one of the subtleties, since the subliminals can enhance one’s faith in one’s ideas; thereby making it easier to take action.
It’s important to take seriously the ideas, hunches, and notions that come to you. These are the subconscious’ way of helping you to act.
The other day I got an email advertising a wellness retreat. Suddenly it occurred to me that I could use a similar model in my own plans. I then sent an email requesting a quote to the same venue (a hotel and lodge) that had been advertised in the email. It was something I’d never done before.
So, I guess I’m saying that I don’t believe the situation is so dire as all that.
The subconscious mind does not simply sit quietly waiting for you to take action. It sends you repeated invitations, suggestions, and opportunities for taking action.
I believe that change can happen both beneath and above the surface. And each type of change has its own associated action. Change beneath the surface is connected to thinking, contemplation, soul-searching, even dreaming, and gradually as it strengthens it evolves into planning.
When a person reaches the state of planning, this is an indication that their actions are evolving into change above the surface. Change above the surface is associated with experimentation, improvisation, building, and establishment.
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@Malkuth - very true. There is definitely a balance between Thought and Action. And some people fall more on one side than the other.
The whole point of this journey is to achieve success through a balance of both planning and putting the plan into action.
I will be frank in admitting that am not much of an action oriented person. I am not saying this to put myself down. It just is.
That doesn’t mean that am not taking action. The actions are very slow though. But it is happening.
From giving up porn and masturbation. To giving up social media. To reading more books. To having more control of my moods despite my health. All these are steps forward.
Sure, I can do more. And more will come in due time.
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My personal view actually goes beyond this.
I do not differentiate between Thought and Action, Body and Mind, in the way that people conventionally do. I see that as an obsolete relic of those ages in which our ancestors did not yet know the biological functions of the nervous system.
Our ancestors once believed that the Earth remained stationary and the Sun was in constant revolution about the Earth. This mistake is preserved in our language’s descriptions of ‘sunrise’ and ‘sunset’. (To be fair, on a subjective, practical level, that view still works pretty well for most people. It’s just incorrect. Also, if your practical job is in aerospace engineering, it doesn’t work very well at all.)
In the same way, we’ve inherited this notion of the body as the site of action and the mind, or psyche as the site of thought.
In my view, it is all neural. Mind is, therefore, physical. Body is mental. Abstract, discursive thinking (i.e. the voice, images, and impulses ‘in one’s head’) is definitely embodied and as such represents a type of Action. At the same time, physical movement in space is most definitely neurally-mediated, and as such is a form of Thinking. (Dancers and athletes know the truth of this.)
There is a type of continuum, from subtle to gross; but inclusive of the same basic phenomenon.
A thought, in the conventional sense of ’an act of imagination’ is an action. A vaporous, gaseous type of action. Just like a cloud, given the right conditions it will condense gaining greater substance and force, eventually becoming liquid and then possibly even solid.
This point will seem minor to some; for me, it’s rather important.
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@Malkuth - I see your point. You mean to say that a thought which gains “density” (through subliminals for example) finally manifests into action.
And this means that it is all one and the same. Just different “states of mind” like water vapor, water and ice are different “states of water”.
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Thank you for reading my thoughts and point of view (on your own journal, no less).
It’s clear to me that I have a lot more to learn about taking effective action.
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@Malkuth - I think your perspective was brilliant too. But yeah, we can all learn from each other. That’s the brilliance of this forum.
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I will find results brilliant. 
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Yes. In my posts, I use the term Nudges.
In that, We’re both saying the same thing. Because…
“Taking action on the mind’s suggestions” is clearly not “Waiting for the sub to kick in”.
We assume the sub is already working, not that one day it will have me programmed completely - and I will be Richard Branson because I listened to EOG Stage 4 for 10,000 Hours. 
In concept, I like this. I’d love it if there was evidence of it. Unfortunately…
That is not how the relationship between the Conscious and the Subconscious Mind works.
A nudge from the SubC does not get louder, when NOT acted on - in fact, it’s volume diminishes and STOPS.
Even an idea does not develop into a plan without conscious work.
Self-Belief / Confidence is strengthened when we take Conscious Real World Action.
The more one waits, the more he ruminates. It is the doubts that get louder.
At worst, waiting amplifies on the user’s identity of being a loser / victim.
At best, it builds the case for “these subliminals don’t work for me”.
@Lion, I speculate that you’ve experienced this with your Fiction Writing goal.
When you started UA/QL, had you started writing even 100 words every morning - a scene, a short story, a retelling of a TV ad, a character description, anything - then, by now, you’d be cranking out 5000 words a day.
Do you still have nudges - ideas for writing? or do you have more reasons why you’d fail?
or worse, thoughts about writing do not even occur to you everyday! (The SubC has given up on the goal, it believes that you don’t take it seriously.)
I don’t know what health challenges you have, but if Jon Morrow can write - what’s your excuse! 
@Malkuth, you have that Ox frame about yourself. So you’re cool with listening for 1 year with little results. How many other customers do you think will do that?
Most people do not meditate, journal, or reflect. They don’t even notice if their beliefs are somewhat changing. We see this even in the online journals.
Our Biology, Habits, and Environments are anyways geared to homeostasis.
Constantly reminding users to Take Action is necessary because most of us cannot distinguish between “a cloud gaining greater substance” and Inertia. 
Edit: Quoting this here for myself to feel complete.
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@Simon - look man. I appreciate your advice. But for me, it isn’t as simple as you make it to be. I am partially blind and deaf. Genetically. And am here to sort some things out for myself especially my health issues or at least manifest something on those lines.
Like I already said, I can do more. That I know. I even know I could have done some of things that you are listing out. It can even feel like am making excuses. But the improvements I have manifested thanks to SubClub is good and getting better. And I will measure my success at my rate and not at the rate others wish me to proceed at. Thank you.
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Hey, I didn’t want a theoretical discussion on Action either.
I saw you were leaning out your playlist, making room for EF, and felt like saying that Khan can be gone too, because you don’t seem to need it right now.
Then, I added the part about “no programming going on” because I anticipated other members replying to it with the stupid Hours arguement.
I didn’t intend to make you feel guilty for not acting.
I wanted you to be guilt-free if you choose to stop Khan - especially during the first few weeks of EF Stage 1.
Because, I expect the scripts to be denser, and the healing harder.
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@Simon - yeah. Am still debating my intuition on whether I should do Emperor Fitness stand alone or not. Will decide as it comes.
Sorry if I sounded abrupt in the previous post. Am stubborn when it comes to someone else telling me what to do even when the advice is sound lol.
But it’s okay really. I am not writing this for others to do the same. Am experimenting and trying things out for myself. If it doesn’t work, I won’t complain. Am not the sort who even thinks of asking for refunds. If it works, we all learn something.
Try stuff out and then if that doesn’t work, i try it another way. Like if this stacking doesn’t work, I will just go back to trying one subliminal title at a time.
Or if physical health goals aren’t met here, I try somewhere else.
It’s a journey and am willing to take the time.
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@Simon - Thanks for the Jon Morrow link. Now that’s a remarkable Action Man despite his circumstances. He’s definitely giving me ideas on how to proceed.
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Khan ST4 Day 38
Quantum Limitless ST3 Day 19
Sometimes I wonder whether I will ever be whole in terms of my health. I don’t even need to be perfect. I would love to be at a minimum amount of eye health (at least) to be able to see enough of the beautiful things around me (including beautiful women).
Writing and even money can wait (and ironically maybe writing and money are exactly the things that will give me the freedom I require, I sometimes think). But more than all that, I do wish that I can at least be normal as some people are. Have a foundation of health that is the same and what people normally take for granted.
Yes, there are people worse off than me who have achieved much more. Sometimes that is inspirational. But sometimes it just feels pathetic to be in this situation. Having to bear all the difficulties of the state I am in.
Mostly, am using subliminals to manifest a better me and also change my lifestyle. And in many ways it has helped manifest some degree of eye improvement (through manifesting stem cell treatment). And also helped me with various habits that I wanted to give up like porn, masturbation, social media, being overweight, depression and more.
But I desire more. Possibly Emperor Fitness will help me that. I hope.
There are many more goals too. To get a steady source of income through writing. To be able to live independently. To travel. To have loads of sex like a Khan deserves.
And yes, @Simon is right. I have to take some sort of action for the subliminals to kick in. Even knowing that, I many times don’t do anything about it. Even thinking of doing a small action to start, doesn’t even happen. That makes me wonder, do I really want to write? Am I using my health as an excuse to not try? Am I scared of failure? Am I fearful of success? Maybe I am just making excuses to not take any risks at all.
So many questions but in the end it all ends in: What do I want and whether I am ready to do anything to achieve all that I desire. That or regret having not tried.
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Khan ST4 Day 39
Quantum Limitless ST3 Day 20
Purchased Emperor Fitness Supreme. And after a lot of thinking (and non-thinking) of how to approach my stack, I have decided to add Emperor Fitness ST1 to my current playlist.
EF1 will be played twice whereas K4 and QL3 will be played once each in the stack (and then looped of course). Since EF1 has healing in it, I have decided to run it for 3 months for that’s what I most require.
Most importantly, in order for hooking these subliminals into my life, I will be taking the following actions everyday:
-Eye exercises. I used to do this before. But after my stem cell treatment and some improvement of my eyes through stem cells, I stopped doing so. Will restart again in order to help target EF1 towards my eyes
-Push ups. Now this is a very basic exercise but I will start small and strive to reach a 100 everyday. For starters. This will also work in tandem with EF1
-Writing. I will spend a minimum of 2 hours everyday, writing something. It doesn’t matter if it is nonsense or not. I have come to the realization that I feel a sort of pressure when I think of writing for money. But when I write for fun, it comes out spontaneously. But everytime I think of being judged for a paid piece of work, I feel worried. This exercise will tackle that. Genre will be fiction. This will work to hook me with QL
-Reading. Am already doing more of that these days. So that’s a good thing to continue. Again hooking QL to my brains.
-Sleep. Have to fix my sleep time to 11pm. And wake up at 6am. EF will definitely help.
Okay. Not a bad plan. Start small, end big.
PS: Will run superchargers The Commander in the morning, The Beast Within in the evening and The Beast Unleashed before or during push-ups.
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For the Superchargers I am Going in the Same direction. Only difference is that I have added Truesocial to my v4 Stack … lets see how this goes 
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