Qv2 is now the standard

[TheBoxingScientist]

Hi Raj did you stack S&S with emperor ?

[SubliminalWarrior]

It was a rumor back in the Saint’s posts that the old Qv1 customers could get a discount to rebuild with Qv2. Or I could have missed the point as well. Anybody knows something about this?

@SaintSovereign @Fire @RVconsultant @Malkuth

[Meng123]

Wasnt viable in the end so wasnt implemented

Main Disc. Thread - Q Core v2 Upgrades

Not only is the actual update v2 and not the B version (two different updates), with v2 being much more resource intensive than the B version, it was mentioned there were details to be worked out.

The issue with the details is this:

Creating a B version of Ultima was more resource intensive than creating the v1 of Ultima. This is due to the way Ultimas are created - they require careful interweaving, and with the B update, this interweaving also received a thorough upgrade, allowing for more information and more input to be delivered to the user. All of this, of course, directly costs us each and every single time a custom Ultima in the B format is created.

Creating a v2 version of Ultima was even more resource intensive than the B version, nearly tripling the required processing power and tripling the cost of each Ultima created.

This of course also applies to Q versions, however there is no need for some of the processes present in Ultima customs and hence the price is lower.

Overall, this puts an incredible strain on the whole process, and opened up a slew of problems when we were discussing a way for users to remake their customs. Discounts would create financial issues, potentially putting in jeopardy some of our innovations that have costed us over half a million to this point and are getting closer and closer to realization. Attempting to create a new process would present potential security risks, as well as pushing the whole timeline forward for at least a year.

We were suspecting this hence why we said, once details were worked out.

Should we have pushed back the timeline a year, including potentially opening us up to disastrous consequences thanks to the security risks?

Should we have jeopardized Project Tachyon that will require at least double as much of the half a million we have already invested into it?

For the sake of this company and the majority of its users, I will gladly disappoint a couple of people. And I can guarantee, that this disappointment will be short-lived.

[TheBoxingScientist]

@Yazooneh 8 loops on Q ? were you taking 2 days off ?

[TheBoxingScientist]

I believe that might be true if you are upgrading your existing custom.

[Meng123]

Nope,fire confirmed that its not happening anymore.Reasons were 2 posts above.v2 was too resource intensive

Main Disc. Thread - Q Core v2 Upgrades

As said previously, there will be no changes or discounts happening. @SaintSovereign mentioned that there would need to be details to be worked out - they were, and it is not feasible.

[Yazooneh]

Of course mAn

[RVconsultant]

Thanks Meng123!

[TheBoxingScientist]

What makes terminus 2 different from terminus ? why should i upgrade my existing stark terminus ?

[NinjaFox]

I hope the update make them more worth it when it comes to seeing results

[TheBoxingScientist]

Thats exactly what i want to know before i upgrade my stark terminus.

[Meng123]

Its the same difference in core as Qv2 versus Qv1.If qv2 feels better for you,terminus would get the same boost since its the same difference in core just at the terminus power level.Essentially less redundant alpha/healing script and more manifestation/results enhancing script so that the brain can process the programs script better instead of overloading on healing/alpha script.

PLEASE READ: Qv1 and Ultima v1 has officially reached EOL status

We also removed the alpha scripting from the Q and Ultima cores because the title’s core script itself contains that scripting. There’s really no reason why a title Paragon should have alpha scripting, especially since that kind of scripting is prone to trigger reconciliation, which would detract from the actual healing that needs to take place. The increased mental load everyone’s experiencing comes from the fact that they’re not getting stuck on the things in the Q / Ultima Cores that’s unrela…

Main Disc. Thread - Dragon Reborn Multistage + Ultima

This is also one of the reasons that we left out a lot of that healing scripting in the Qv2 Mandatory Core and the Ultima v2 Mandatory Core. With Qv1’s Mandatory Core (and Ultima, just assume I’m saying that every time I say Qv1), every title had alpha and healing scripting – even when it didn’t really need it, and even when the title’s core had it. That double whammy of the healing scripting in both the title core (like Emperor Core, for example) AND the Q Mandatory Core was overwhelming users, getting them stuck in “healing hell,” without enough execution of the actual title scripting.

What we ended up with was a bunch of people claiming they weren’t getting results, but when you read their posts / journals, you could see that they were just stuck in a cycle of almost neverending reconciliation from the healing. When we removed it from the Q core and simply boosted the healing in the title core (a tiny bit), tests showed that the healing cycles weren’t nearly as harsh and overpowering and testers actually began to see results that were very related to the title they were running.

That doesn’t mean you aren’t getting healing, it just means that the healing is very related to your stack rather than broad spectrum and isn’t derailing the script. That also doesn’t mean that Qv1 is useless or “inferior,” it’s just a different approach – one that we feel might not serve our customers because the double whammy method is for advanced mental alchemists since you need to be hyper aware of your emotional state and what traumas you have. The new Qv2 approach is to give people more hyper focused TOOLS. For example, rather than forcing incredibly deep healing into every sub, now you can choose to undergo deep healing with something like Dragon Reborn or Regeneration. If you don’t want deep healing, or it doesn’t serve your purposes right now, just run another title that isn’t focused on it.

Main Disc. Thread - Q Core v2 Upgrades

Quite significant. We are, after all, updating every single title to Qv2 and Uv2.

It is much more optimized, sleeker, hits deeper, works better overall and has some interesting (highly positive) effects on subconscious processing and reconciliation that I cannot really divulge any information on, but some have noticed.

[NinjaFox]

Still wonder if saint and fire have any notes on it

[TheBoxingScientist]

Thanks again @Meng123

[Matrix]

One thing is wierd. It was announced that Q versions will be removed from future purchases but still my friend who bought spartan few days ago(1st June or 31st May ig) got Qv1 in his downloads. He was confused which one to use. But i recommended him to use Qv2. @SaintSovereign is there any reason why Q v1 are still available in downloads???

[TheBoxingScientist]

Great as i still have to download all my q versions

[Matrix]

Great as i still have to download all my q versions

Can i know ? Why i am getting better results with Qv1 than Qv2 but everyone is getting amazing results with Qv2.(especially with wanted, i don’t have wanted tho,but the reviews are just awesome)
I remember when i used Am qv1 i was getting subtle and better changes. On Qv2 even with less exposure i am getting recon(headaches,stone walling etc).and being more demotivated.
I think i am just too young(my brain may has not developed) to handle Qv2. But i have no regret , i am back to Qv1 and reaping good results. I am just getting back to the track.
I guess i will wait until there are official recommendations for Qv2.
Qv2 is no more a child’s play. I think Q+ will be harder.
But still Qv1 is amazing. I will say that anyone under 18 should use Qv1(not declaring that Qv1 is better but in my case it is).

[TheDerpinator]

Sounds like you were doing far to many loops still. On Qv2, listening 5 days a week just isnt possible anymore for most people, thats just to much.

[Matrix]

Doing 3 days a week 1 loop but on washouts it feels horrible and then i just get demotivated(edit: i just lack the drive, besides i lack discipline which i need to develop anyway)to complete my work. Ig it might happen because of listening to the raw script. On Qv1 there are additional script which prevents the raw script to kick in alone.
I might need time to adjust
But yes there are changes i can notice on Qv2 but on Qv1 it is just faster(its my case only) or more stable for me

[Simon]

There was nothing wrong with Qv1 files. After all, they were the standard for a whole year.

Maybe your mind just likes the additional alpha scripting in the core. And until you’re not stacking it’s not a problem.

Don’t concern too much, you’ll grow into Qv2 over time, like the rest of us did. Getting recon still means it’s working, just not the way you were expecting.