Questions about exposure

Question 1: is the goal to build up to 15 min with minimal recon eventually or is it fine to stay on 5-7-9 minutes indefinitely and never increase exposure? Which one is better results-wise? I assume it’s better to build up to 15min loops

Question 2: with my stack of Emperor + EoG + RICH, can I double down on EoG? Like

Day 1: EoG + emperor
Day 2: rest
Day 3: EoG + RICH
Day 4: rest

Etc

Thank you

I am doing only 3 min for some time. If I go higher I get either a headache or bad sleep so in my case I do not think I am going up soon.
Your plan is not by the book but honestly, I am doing the same :slight_smile:
But with a difference that I do not prioritize any title of my stack

  1. A, B
  2. rest
  3. B, C
  4. rest
  5. C, A
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I have tried so many different ways. Megastack way more than I should listen too for one day a week with long rest. Recond usually get quite intense that way.

3 min loops don’t do that much. 5-7 min loops work pretty well but overall I usually build up to 15 with the subs I use unnless they are extremely dense

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I had great results building from 5min to 15 on emperor and eog over one cycle (emperor for 4 cycles already, but I was doing 15 min with no results first 2 cycles, then dropped to 5min and started getting good results and now I built up to 15min and have good results - I can’t say they are worse or better tho)

Was wondering if 15 min is the eventual goal, and maybe if beyond, once you are a few years on one stack

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I wish I could do that :frowning:

Do you get recon easily?
If not, why reduce exposure?
I know, that more exposure doesn’t equal more results, but still…

It’s not that I feel this instant effects from the subs like some others. For me it’s a silent process deep down I side that I notice only over time. So I can’t tell if I would get better results with lower exposure time.

I just finished my third cycle of emperor and never felt any recon besides the wish to change subs at the beginning.
I listen mostly to the full 15 minutes and during the last cycle I did 2 subs each listening day as well, just not according to any plan, but more intuitively.

I got pretty depressed and nihilistic in the first week of emperor on 5min loops. Then something clicked and I started getting great results. Also why wouldn’t more exposure equal more results? I think it’s like lifting, where you have to get enough stimulus to grow but also enough recovery (that is, processing/execution modes as an equivalent in subliminals)

But I honestly don’t know, subs can’t compare to lifting I guess. But it makes sense to me: listen to more affirmations, get greater changes in subconscious, execute more and with better results because subconscious is alignment more with subs due to higher input. The only problem is how much you can handle

It’s not like lifting. It’s more like going to the gym. At least with most titles.
But going to the gym doesn’t create muscles. Taking action in the gym does. Only if you use the equipment in the gym and start lifting you build muscles.
Let’s say you listen to Libertine and SSX. This alone will not bring women to your flat. You need to get active and start exposing yourself to women, start talking with them, perhaps study how to approach them properly. Then the subs can work it’s magic.

Action is key.

Not taking action can lead to serious recon because your subconscious is persuaded to change but is always confronted with no action and doesn’t see results.

A few years back, before ZP, listening times were hours. Some played the subs non stop ultrasonic, all day long.
But with ZP less is more.

It can be, that subs take their time, because they need to lay the groundwork. But generally speaking, action is the secret to success, not excessive exposure (not that I’m saying you aim for that).

I would just follow the schedule and put EoG as my third ZP title for undivided immersion

  • Day 1: 1x first ZP title, 1x second ZP title
  • Day 2: Rest
  • Day 3: 1x third ZP title
  • Day 4: Rest
  • Day 5: 1x first ZP title, 1x second ZP title
  • Day 6: Rest
  • Day 7: 1x third ZP title
  • Day 8: Rest
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You are right I should get back to this. I am somehow more procrastinating than usual.

For question 1, you can do either the full 15 min or 5-7-9 min. Results wise it depends on the individual.

With question 2, the listening plan for be slightly over the recommendations for a 3 title ZP stack. You can try it out but be aware of risks (potential recon/overload).

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1 - Find your sweet spot and build up to it. Your sweet spot could be 2 minutes, 8, 10, 15 or anything else. No need to force yourself to 15 unless 15 gives you great results with minimal/acceptable recon.

2 - Sure.

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Actually groundbreaking that you confirmed we can do this

Caveat being, don’t blast yourself with 15 min loops if you don’t need to. Start low exposure and build up!

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Wow, this is wild. They are normally admit about sticking to the guidelines. Maybe with the new upgrades and ZP 2 Max we may see the listening schedule guidelines change.

But as of right now, till it’s officially announce I think I’m sticking to the current guidelines.

Guys, if you want more exposure to a specific sub in your stack, you can do that if you know what you are doing, are able to monitor yourself and know how to take action/journal.

This does not mean to go and overexpose yourself, and you’ll want to modify the ratio. Decrease the input from other subs.

If you notice it’s too much exposure to that one sub, cut it down.

More exposure is no guarantee of more results, so there is no point in trying to go over. You’re not messing with our recommendations but with your potential results.

To add - if you were running the following:

Day 1: EoG 10m + emperor 3m
Day 2: rest
Day 3: RICH 3m
Day 4: rest

You don’t do this - this is wrong and will lead to overexposure:

Day 1: EoG 10m + emperor 3m
Day 2: rest
Day 3: EoG 10m + RICH 3m
Day 4: rest

You do this:

Day 1: EoG 5 m + emperor 3m
Day 2: rest
Day 3: EoG 5 m + RICH 3m
Day 4: rest

This is for more advanced users who can monitor themselves, have experience and are willing to experiment.

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@Fire

When are the official recommendations going to be changed? And is it possible that you guys will stop producing titles at 15 minutes and go to 7 minutes as standard?

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This makes more sense, thanks for the clarification @Fire.

Now I can experiment like a mad scientist. Like I was not doing that before XD

Once I am satisfied with my “Sweet spot”, can I stay there forever ?
Does Sweet Spot change with time ?

why? plenty of users run full 15 minutes.